the fact that troons hate this man proves he is right.it just takes a quick search on /r/mtf of "euphoria boner" to prove that AGP is a thing.the denizens of this board are no better, y'all have the same psychology but have only a little more shame.he missed AAP though. it's as weird for a female to get turned on from wearing boxers as it is for a male to get a boner from wearing thigh highs and an amazon skirt.
Does he think that HSTS transition to escape the stigma of being effeminately gay?It's weird to me that there's SO much discourse on AGP, but talking about HSTS is rare.
>>41282602cunt, bastard, humilating gatekeeping asshole. in his nonyoung photos his facial expression gives vibe of a bottom with uncurable hemorrhoids bitter butthurt bastard.was s a qt wheb gitta admit tho
>>41282614Blanchard has stated he thinks HSTS are less genuinely dysphoric than AGPs. My personal opinion is HSTS are very feminine gay men. The ones that troon out young identify liking men and their natural femininity with being a woman, the idea/belief develops, and then dysphoria follows from the conflict between belief and reality. the gay community is very masc4masc. feminine gay men are less desired. and if you're a feminine gay boy I can understand the appeal of wanting to be a straight woman instead.I think the only reason there's more discourse on AGP is that "fetishistic straight man living as a woman" is more objectionable than "extremely gay man so gay he turns into a woman".Also, it seems like HSTS are generally more rare these days. This makes sense, since there are more autogynephilic straight men than feminine gay men, and the advent of so much troon propaganda online has AGPs transitioning relatively young.
>>41282614>Does he think that HSTS transition to escape the stigma of being effeminately gay?>but talking about HSTS is rare.gincel makes up for that
>>41282653gatekeeping is based. 50 year old autogynephilic married men with children shouldn't be given hormones.
>>41282602agp is very accurate, and thats okay because we love agptrannies
>>41282602Can I still be AGP if I tried female clothe but did not feel horny whatsoever, just ok and thinking what will fit better?
>>41282690are you attracted to women? if so, there is a 99% chance you are AGP. it actually presents in a diverse number of ways (asexual, bisexual, completely heterosexual variations, some have a history of fetishistic crossdressing, others don't etc)imo even non-sexual "gender euphoria" is just sublimated AGP feelings.
>>41282717what about if i was formerly attracted to women but now I just want to be a bimbo tranny with a high libido chaser daddy boyfriend?
>>41282717>AGP feelings=\=fapping in frocks jfc>sublimatedits very core of itself woman LOVEits that. true and deep love of feminine so powerful that any separation from it is painful, causes agps tho slowly wither away and a way they can acheive salvation is being permanently joined with object of their highest adoration, becoming what they love si they can find a peace.
>>41282814that's just AGP>>41282823yes, I'm aware lol. I don't subscribe to the AGP=public fetish TERF reduction of AGP.but to be fair there are AGPs who did do fetishistic crossdressing for a while, see Ray Alex Williams, LaRell detrans on youtube. My theory is that among the younger AGPs they're exposed to troon propaganda young enough that they skip they don't have time to develop a fetishistic crossdressing habit and jump straight to transition.and yes, the romantic aspect is the most important part I think. even in the AGPs where it starts out as fetishistic crossdressing it develops into the romantic AGP from what i've seen. so it's still the same phenomenon.either way, it's deeply disordered
>>41282717I'm Bi I guess cause I would be ok with a man, but I also have a very low libido overall and have never been interested in relationships that much, still I don't think I'm asexual>>41282823 Yeah, maybe is something like that, It's very painful being the way I am and no matter what I try to do to stop it comes back to make me feel like shit
>>41282717>imo even non-sexual “gender euphoria” is just sublimated AGPSo you think someone feeling happy with their appearance (and not in any way sexual) is still somehow proof of your antiquated freudian bullshit? Let me ask you something, is there anything that could disprove this boomer’s model? What, if anything, would change your mind? If the answer to these questions is “nothing”, then I rest my case, you’re acting in bad faith and your unwavering commitment is completely unfounded and unwarranted
>>41282602>thoughts?looks like a daddy sounds like a fag
>>41283010Like even if they explain my feelings as an AGP the end result is the same, I'll transition and feel happier, so to me it's whatever, really
>>41283010lol, feeling happy with your appearance isn't the same as gender euphoria.AGP has been empirically documented. it's undeniable that at least some trans women are AGP. i admittedly can't prove that 97% of gynephilic trans women are AGP but I do believe this, because every gynephilic TW I talk to eventually admits to it after explaining what AGP is. this is universal in my experience>>41283056at least u acknowledge it. my problem is when people deny AGP. i think it's important to tell ppl about before they troon. some people might not troon if they understood it was based in their abnormal sexuality or a paraphilia however you want to frame it
>>41282602why did we reinvent freud for trannies like a century later?
>>41282602agp isn't a binary 'type' trannies are assigned to. there are dysphoric and non-dysphoric trannies, and there are agp and non-agp people. four possible groups. non-dysphoric agps are the problematic group.
>>41282602His theories capture a very important aspect of the truth of gender identity, but they are incomplete without supplementary material (MTIMB), and ideas from opposing theorists (Docter, Veale, even Moser).
>>41282602I think there are definitely distinct categories of trannies, but he's reductionist. There's at least like four, with some overlap.
>>41282602trannies discard him and still cant make better typology
>>41282602nigga has basically rediscovered that straight people and gay people are differentthere are no other valuable insights from his theory, it's basically myers briggs for tranniesit's been like 40 years now and his shit still remains a controversial hypothesis rejected by mainstream scientists
blanch best golden girl
>>41282602He's proven right by the fact that every time somebody tries to come up with a "totally real and legit" typology in response, they're just recreating jeeps and hussies. Actually Blanch himself isn't even novel, as Muslims wrote about the two types centuries ago.
>>41282656>Also, it seems like HSTS are generally more rare these days. This makes sense, since there are more autogynephilic straight men than feminine gay men, and the advent of so much troon propaganda online has AGPs transitioning relatively young.This is why trannies used to be super duper rare, because basically only HSTS transitioned, and it was a small population of an already small population--that is, gay males that felt the overwhelming need to transition. I think the reaction today against transgenderism is centered on AGPs, not because it's offensive or whatever, although people will say that, but because nobody wants men dropping out of the game. The government wants your taxes, and women want men competing. Thing is, gays were doing pink collar work anyway, and weren't competing for women's attention. So there was never a need to whip gays or hussies back onto the plantation.
>>41282656>>41286685As someone who's into the HSTS phenotype, I don't think they're rarer than they were before, with respect to the general population. They've always been uncommon, but I've been able to find them at roughly the same rate since 2010ish, although the spots to find them have moved a bit.They are just rarer compared to the other types, who are now more prevalent.
>>41286744>into the HSTS phenotypehow would you explain what kind of trannies are you into to someone who has never heard about blanchard and hsts?
>>41286760nta but femme gay guys definitely have a look.
>>41286760Most people don't know what HSTS means (I certainly didn't until a few years ago) and I'm open about being a chaser IRL.So if people ask what types I'm into, it'll be kinda like >>41286773 describedUsually one of:>Fem gays who transitioned into hot women>Trans women with surgery except bottom surgery>Brazilian shemale bimbosDepending on how I think the person I'm talking to will understand it.
>>41282602Honestly who cares?If some dude gets off to sitting in a stall next to me and listening to me pee, but he doesn't show me his boner or try to force me to interact with it in any way or moan obnoxiously as he beats it or whatever, how have I been harmed? Sure it's gross to think about and I'd rather he not, but honestly just don't tell me and we're good.Same with AGP. The only thing that actually bothers me is when people oversexualize femininity in support groups and such. As long as you don't accost me with your euphoria boner it's not actually harming me, so why should I care if you get one?(But like why are they compelled to tell me they get them?)>>41282717>AGP has no consistent definition or presentation, and literally includes asexualityWhy do we take this fake shit seriously again? This is just tautology. You're AGP because I defined AGP to include you.
agp is real but blanchard is a fraud
>>41282602I think he's a gigarepper AGP manmoder
>>41288947TRVKE
>>41282602> people hated him because he told the truthchristcuck logic, kyshis pseudo-scientific nonsense doesn't have a single shred of legitimacy with anyone but twitter TERFs who haven't voluntarily been outside in months> euphoria bonera side effect of still having a testosterone-laced body before transition / in early transition. novelty is arousing, especially after denying yourself for years, if not decades.once you've started transitioning that's no longer a thing, and you also realize how silly it was...but you're a repper so you haven't had that experience.
>>41288963Beautiful
>>41282602> Hated by the people who think they are women despite having XY chromosomesI think hes right
>>41282602i dont hate him though...
>>41282602agps exist, but the 'typology' concept is asinine.
