I'm ALWAYS going to be very tall, my shoulders will never shrink and even if I get FFS, I'll still forever be a manI don't like being a man, I don't want to be a man, but I'm literally forced into it. I'm not baby trans I've been injecting estrogen for years at this point and I've never malefailed, ever, that's how much of a man I amI don't want to honmode either, I don't know how it would help with anything if I would still be a man
all i’m hearing is “waaa waaaa why dont people see me as a woman?? i’m going to rope. NO i wont wear girl clothes or makeup i’m going to magically become a passoid without any effort”
>>41283460seriously this shit pisses me off so much. sorry, you’re a fucking tranny. you’re going to have to slum it with the rest of us ‘honmoders’ and take a risk for once in your coward life. cry about it. you have to go out and be a woman if you want people to treat you like one
>>41283547>>41283559I look like a man, nothing like a woman, I'm extremely tall, I will NEVER look like a woman and honmoding doesn't make you a woman and it doesn't make you pass
youre trapped in a cage of your own making
I manmode so I can occasionally honmode better in the future.
>>41283597it's my fault I didn't transition before pubertyI don't know how you don't understand that some people are very masculine and would never look like women, why can't you have a little bit of empathy and understanding?
>>41283460have you considered moving to a very left wing place where you can live as a woman
>>41283611this just boils down to "have you considered honmoding"
>>41283589i spend 40 hours a week manmoding and counting down the hours to when i can honmode on the weekends. it’s a completely different experience. and it does make me a woman. you’re the one being an asshole to the trannies who are actually actualizing their gender instead of crying on the internet
>>41283620I would rather kill myself than honmodegood for you if you like it but unless you pass, you're not a woman
>>41283547>>41283559He would just look like a tranny, not a woman. Sometimes its really over and I don't really understand how being seen as a tranny would help with anyones dysphoria.>>41283611>Woman is a male who looks like a man.Its not how it works.
>>41283627genuinely fuck you. if you stop telling me i’m not a woman i might be able to muster an ounce of sympathy. i’m more of a woman than you’ll ever be
>>41283657you can't be a woman without looking like one and to look like one, you need a feminine body, not a dress rofl
ITT: thinly veiled transphobic chuds
>>41283460no there really isn't. it's one thing to not pass. but to not even be able to resemble a woman is brutal. even being on hrt is just a joke at that point. i'm in the same position and i think i should just detroon tbhon. the only ppl who say being on hrt is worth it if you can't pass are fakemoders
>>41283681i think they think OP will just look like a tranny, not the god awful predicament you are in
>>41283681but detrooning wouldn't help with anything, I think suicide would but I don't really want to kill myself, it's good to think that it's always an option though
>>41283669whatever floats your boat, dude. i’m going to keep honmoding and being recognized and treated as a woman by people even though they know i’m trans.
>>41283547being a woman is when you wear makeup and girl clothes
>>41283627There are cute trannies that prank people into thinking they're womenBut they're transwomenLike you can become
>>41283706as opposed to your much more mature and logical position: “being a girl is when tits and small ribcage and thin waist and wide hips and small midface and skull”
>>41283603I didnt start hormones until after puberty lmfao and I am 6 foot flat with shoulders like a mike linebacker. At a certain point you need to learn to live with youself or else youll just keep making your misery worse
>>41283725why do you have to do this ridiculous strawman thing when you know full well sexual dimorphism exists
>>41283732based honmaxxer
>i’m going to keep honmoding and being recognized and treated as a woman by people even though they know i’m trans.
>>41283755my ugliest bitch wouldnt even sneeze in your direction
>>41283547happened to me tho
>>41283749yes, sexual dimorphism exists (on a bimodal distribution)gender is an emergent social phenomenon that is not tied 1-1 with sex. honmoding allows you to achieve social womanhood and alleviates dysphoria. you will still be dysphoric about your body like every tranny but it will let you achieve a level of peace and fulfillment that might allow you to claw out of your pit of despair. or you can keep trying doing nothing i guess.
>>41283769yeah but she doesn't have a titanium endoskeleton and radioisotope power supply
>>41283787yep your right i concede all my previous points
>honmoding allows you to achieve social womanhoodgod i wish i lived in whatever fantasy world you live in
>>41283787my bitches are still stuck on waterwheels and brick construction :(
>>41283799my position is the one that has empirical evidence and scientific/academic consensus behind it so i feel quite comfortable saying that you’re the one living in a fantasy world
>>41283460I think it's abundantly obvious that your only real option here is suicide. Honmoding is cringe and should be a crime, manmoding is clearly making you miserable, and detrooning would take actual effort (i.e. therapy) to not make you miserable. Simply put, end your life to end the pain. It's like euthanizing a dying animal at this point, and let's be honest, you don't have much to live for. Look at yourself in the mirror and honestly tell me that anybody would particularly give a shit if you were to paint your walls a fashionable shade of red. You can't.
>>41283828the world i live in is one where i get called a faggot and attacked in public and thats the experience i speak from. maybe i am just retarded. i dont care anymore
>>41283858you might just live in a shittier place than honmaxxer, where I live honmaxxing would work, in others not so much.
>>41283867you have to be 19 years old
>>41283725>believing that being a woman is having a woman's body is more ridiculous than believing woman is synonymous with sexist stereotypes
>>41283840that’s pretty fucked up retard
as a honmoder how do you ignore the obvious fact no one actually sees you as a woman
>>41283828where do you live, i think this disparity in your experiences is geographic in nature
>>41283912Better than nothing, that's basically it. All or nothing is such a cuck mindset had by people who haven't ever experienced work or ambition.
>>41283921>Better than nothingnta but no it's not. wearing women's clothes that don't fit me and trying to make it work when i'm never going to pass does nothing to alleviate my dysphoria, it just makes it worse. and other people exist, who will always see me as a male. i would rather be seen as a weird recluse male than a freak tranny.
>>41283949the other anon is indicating that it works for her, either you are worse off, you live somewhere worse, or she figured something out you haven't yet which makes normies happy
>>41283966thanks einstein
if she was actually happy she wouldnt be unsympathetically arguing about it on 4chan btw
>>41283966my circumstances demand that i exist around normal people. maybe if you were in some big wonderful tranny polycule in seattle you could forget you're a hon. or maybe she's just good at coping. in any case, her being able to tolerate it does not give her license to insist that i ruin my life even more than i already have.
>>41284004>normal peopleinternalized transphobia is your problem, not the so called normal people you've chosen to be afraid of
>>41284018>internalized transphobia is your problemi find myself disgusting. what do you want me to do about that?>the so called normal peoplethey ARE normal. it's not normal to have a brain that screams at you your entire life that you're in the wrong body. that's an error. something went wrong in my genetics or my development to make that happen.
>>41283840wtf is wrong with you why do you always post this shit
>>41284030therapy now
The whole point of manmoding is that it's a way to cope with not being able to pass?If it doesn't help you, why the hell are you doing it then?Why not just detransition if that would be better?
>>41284063i've spent hundreds of hours in therapy. i think the problem is that a lot of the things therapists say might help you feel better or have a better outlook but aren't actually true.
>>41284085everyone has to delude themselves a little bit. even "normal" peopleone day you'll grow up and accept that
>>41284085You could've spent that money on surgeries and a personal trainer. Therapy is a scam that does nothing to help you be beautiful.
>>41284097>everyone has to delude themselves a little bit.i don't think i have it in me. i've always been like that.>>41284105>You could've spent that money on surgeries and a personal trainer.a lot of those hours were in an intensive outpatient program that i didn't have to pay for. the rest were when i was a kid and my parents sent me. regardless, no amount of surgery would make me pass, not that i could ever afford the surgeries i want.
>>41283620i do this too, the workdays are excruciating tho and id like to be a workhon too
>>41284004only half of ur problem is being a hon, the other half is u being annoying
>>41284309i can't help being annoying.
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have you tried passing?
