for a fucking good while i though i was a trans woman. i am not. there are a lot of troons in this board and in general, and specially mtf, who will do ANYTHING to convince gender non-conforming males that they are in fact, trans women, instead of a male with femenine features, a femenine soul or just gay. the amount of trannies saying that femboys are just repressing trannies is insane, the connotations between a femboy and a trans women are hugetrans:>they want to undergo srs/orchi>they want gyno>they do voicetraining>they actually want to look like the opposite sex>some of them wish they could give birthfemboys:>they want to keep their genitals intact>they identify as males and have no discomfort by having male features>they exist on a relative gender expression, opposite of trans women who are in need of a firm female expression>they crossdress but are able to wear normal male clothingthe differences are fucking huge, i dont understeand this unhealthy push from trannies to make everything about their conditionyes i like to wear dresses, but because my gender expression is different doesn't mean my fucking core being must correlate it>b-but, you will become a balding fag! Y-YOU MUST TRANSITION NOW!!!trannies will become a estrogenized hags, everyone gets old. what trans women aren't able to understeand is that femboys dont care about getting old like trannies do because they are aware about their own gender. trans women get clocky the moment they realize that with age certain male features are exacervated. lastly, hrt femboys. well, fuck. i am against hrt in general but i dont see why hrt should be trans-only. estrogen is just an hormone without any social or cultural connotation more than what we want to give toalso, i am talking about real femboys/crossdressers. ftm femboys are just women who dress like well, womenthe final question is, why are you trannies obssesed with convert us to your cult?
>>41290079>femboys dont care about getting old18 year old femboys be like "I'm done puberty and will never get more masculine"
i think boobs on a femboy is hot
>>41290079>femboys dont care about getting oldYoung people think they'll never get old, I used to think I'd stay a twink forever then lines appeared, got (thankfully just a little) face hair, that's when I realized refusing HRT was a stupid decision.>with convert us to your cult?Guess they feel obligated to help others realize and come to the same conclusion that they did, not everyone thinks the same but it is difficult to not project yourself onto others which is what causes this whole "recruitment"
>>41290079idk i mostly just care about having a feminine expression and appearance, dont want SRS, am ok being a male and I still take HRT because without it I would be hairy and have beard shadow and be balding by now. How am I supposed to feel feminine like that anon? I used to want to kms every day looking in the mirror and now I can tolerate myself better.>everyone gets oldthe problem isnt getting old, the problem is masculinization
>>41290168>guess they feel obligated to help others realize and come to the same conclusion that they did, not everyone thinks the same but it is difficult to not project yourself onto others which is what causes this whole "recruitment"well stop it. you are making more harm than good
>>41290230femboy artists draw a girl with a flat chest and femboys be like omg i want my male body to look like this! I HATE TRANNIES THOUGH!!!!
>>41290199>i used to want to kms every day looking in the mirror and now I can tolerate myself betterthat's actually dysphoria. femboys don't feel specially bad when they look masc. at best bothered
>>41290079>>they want to keep their genitals intact>>they identify as males and have no discomfort by having male features>>they exist on a relative gender expression, opposite of trans women who are in need of a firm female expression>>they crossdress but are able to wear normal male clothingSo agp males?
>>41290240stop the grooming i beg you
>>41290230I don't do it, but I understand why others do it, it's like trying to save themselves by saving others, you never know how much someone is suffering or even if they are repressing so hard they haven't even realized what they "need".
>>41290254no. AGPs want to look like women, even with the genitals removal. femboys are into the AGAMP category
>>41290252>femboys don't feel specially bad when they look masc.theres a certain level of aap going on with femboys but testosterone doesnt give a shit about making you look like a perfect twink, it doesnt let you pick and choose. i think a femboy who sees himself balding and getting beard shadow is experiencing dysphoria because its making him just look like a regular man (which you technically are). a femboy is just someone who is genetically blessed to have delayed the absolute physical rape to your appearance that is testosterone exposure. its not a real identity, there is no commitment in it.
>>41290272do you realize how narcisistic and self-centered that is right? trans women seems to be on their own fucking reality for fuck sake
I feel like I could do great as a femboy, alas I’m cursed to be 6 foot with a huge cock.
>>41290371that's not a curse
>>41290300exactly, is not a fucking gender identity, but a gender expression. also, no. femboys don't have dysphoria. dysphoria is a very strong feeling. you may wanna match a more femenine type, but saying femboys are dysphoric is like saying femenine gay cis man are also dysphoric
>>41290374I mean yeah ig. I would love to fuck a cute twink and hold him tight in my arms knowing I’m so much bigger than him. But also I’d like to be in the reverse situation and dress up all girly and shit
>>4129012318 y/o 6 years ago vs 24 y/o 6 seconds ago Your “fear of aging” is just pink pill nonsense like hypno porn changing your personality If anything I look more fem now because of all the lower body workouts paying off
>>41290406woof. can you actually call yourself a femboy when you look like this?? brutal. by this standard i guess i could've been one
>>41290406No shit you didn't age much, it's because you already underwent twinkdeath before the before pic lmao.
>>41290406Kek. Jealous hons are already seething
>>41290329Everyone does this tho, they have different motivations but in the end all "heroes" do it for themselves.
>>41290406fantastic progress
>>41290531are we being fr rn? he's built like a broomstick. my old man has wider hips
>>41290570Twinks/femboys are not trying to look exactly like women and they still mog most trannies so what is your point
>>41290670I dont think they mog trannies. No male looks good with femininity. or more specifically in female clothes.
>>41290670my point is he looks rough. no seething here, just secondhand embarrassment, especially if it's the same anon who made the thread where the image was a similar looking femboy kneeling in a few poses
>>41290699(this doesn't mean i disagree with OP, btw. i think femboys can do whatever they want without people pressuring them to troon but if you're gonna call yourself a femboy you should look, well, fem)
>>41290691>I dont think they mog tranniesAgree to disagree. Most troons end up looking like pudgy/skinnyfat androgynous dudes basically the worst of both worlds.>he looks roughIf the 2nd pic looks rough then what looks good to you
>>41290299Arent agps aroused by perceiving themselves as feminine?
>>41290456>>41290480>>41290570>>41290691>>41290699>>41290726Lmao
>>41290079>i am against hrt in generalwhy? bigot
>>41290801if that's you, i apologize. i don't like being a hater and you didn't really deserve anything i said idrk why i said it
>>41290079Trannies get old and age into womenFemboys/twinks get old and rope because their entire personality was based on looking youthful and cute
>>41290406Good boy. What cage you wearing?
>>41290406>i look more fem nowyou just look like a gangly man. probably attractive to gay men as a bottom but you look masculine.it seems there are two types of femboys, the ones who end up trooning/roping and then anorexic gay men who are autoandrophilic so they get off on being fem while being masculine and it doesnt bother them.
>>41290940It’s the round metal kind >>41291003Most femboys are Ftm now if you think I’m a totally chopped skinny gay man that’s fine doesn’t change the fact it still get ma’amed
>>41290079you know you can be nonbinary too right? even if you think youre a "femboy" it still doesnt make you not trans. you cant escape the trans!!!!>trannies will become a estrogenized hagsis this not better than balding and becoming ugly? genuinely, because you can take e and still not present as a woman. dont risk fucking yourself up just because you think taking e is a woman thing>ftm femboys are just women who dress like well, womenhaha well thanks i really needed to hear that today, speaking the truth here!!!
>>41290079Most of the time when people are like that it's because they themselves were unlucky with genetics and see someone who would have the potential to get better physical results trooning than they did as "wasting" that potential if they don't transition. It's a combination of jealousy and autistic projection where they can't comprehend that not everyone wants the same thing out of life. I don't have any problem with femboys or any desire to "convert" you, I tend to get along with them just fine. The only things I find particularly disagreeable/offensive about your post are you being against hrt in general, implying that trannies aren't able to wear normal male clothing, and the claim that you can't age gracefully as a tranny.>>41290406I mean it does look like your bone structure has androgenized a bit with age, but if you don't have a problem with that then it isn't a problem. It doesn't just automatically make you less cute. I think you look a lot more attractive on the right. You're pretty hot desu
>>41290371Go for it anon, tol princess boys are boywife material t. Switch ottermode
>>41290265imo troon out while you still have your hair
>>41290796those are AGAMPS. AGPs are aroused by the though of changing their gender, while AGAMPS are okay with their gender as long is "sissified"
>>41291970Enbian is crazy
i like femboys as long as they aren't taking estrogen, if they are then they aren't femboy they're transsexual. this board is dominated by transsexuals, so regular femboys are not accurately represented by their kin and are instead mocked by mtfs who say, "but i'm still a guy", because they equate not-passing to being an effeminate male (so rude towards actual males)
>>41290079maybe if a peak femboy isn't literally just a flat girl with dick and balls. coming from someone who WAS femboycoping, a whole subculture built on grooming, pederasty and fetishistic youthful ideals just isn't sustainable and shouldn't really be encouraged. if you're happy with growing into a man, more power to you. but you can't deny the amount of apparent dysphoria prevalent in femboy-adjacent communities, outside of mainstream communities where they market themselves to gooners. even then it's ironic that the top contemporary femboys known to normies are all afabs/amabs on hrt, really makes you think huh? seriously just go on r/feminineboys or r/sillyboyclub, it's literally just eggs crying about how male they are. but hey i've already grown out of this femboy/trans debate phase and im just happy to be on hrt and living as a woman without centering my identity to a fetish
>>41292030interesting take. what if i dont want to chop my balls off? i am still valid as a trans women?
it's still a femboy if they still have a dick, despite changing everything else about them into woman
>>41290402TRANNY TIMETRANNY TIMET-T-T-TRANNYKTIME
>>41292030and this is coming from a chronic AGAMP btw, forgot to mention that>>41292050>what if i don't want to chop my balls offpersonally im in the camp of:>if you dont have crippling dysphoria, enough to make you go on hrt, then you're not transand yes that excludes enbies not on hrtbut im all for estrogen being used for body modification purposes as long as its prioritised for those who actually need it to alleviate dysphoria first. if roiders can abuse T then why not? just as long as people are transparent with their usage and not try to psyop others into thinking they're natty. honestly if anyone asks me whether or not they should go on hrt, i always just ask them, "would you rather grow into an old man or an old woman?" because it's the only physical side effects that matter in the long run. not that i believe that going on hrt makes you a woman or vice versa, of course. personally, as a gender accelerationist, a postgender society would be ideal, but im too trapped within the binary construct due to trauma and upbringing myself, hence my meta-attraction and need to be perceived as a woman
>>41292258how the fuck is an enbie get into hrt??? what are you even trying to reach? a gender-neutral look? you will end looking like a butch
>>41290853trvke
>>41292398Troons are the ones roping at the highest rate tho
>>41290230I hate having this body type it looks so embarrassing I have to lose so much weight
>>41292369>mfw rotten brain matter from being constant incel goonbait makes you unable to comprehend basic englishif that's not a good enough argument against femboy subculture then i dont know what is xd>you will end looking like a butchas if thats a bad thingi relish the fact that i can pull off almost any aesthetic across the spectrum, see picrelbutches are hot and valid mkayfemboys are cringe
>>41292514you should show me it so i can tell you if youre right
>>41290079femboys in art:thin waist, thick thighs, tastefully plump, soft attractive lips, hairless body, femboys irlwaist and hips are the same. legs are usually spindly. if the femboy is 'thick' it just means they're a fat dude. body hair galore, facial features are masculine, lips are not cute.
>>41290079>femboys dont care about getting old
>>41292684pic related is not a butch you stupid fuck
>>41290079Ooops I see i posted this to the joke response thread lol. oh well ill double dipI dont actually really give a fuck what femboys do, I just think the subculture kinda has a terrible sense of style desu, and almost every femboy ive seen looks like they smell like piss and have bad hygiene. Idk the femboy subculture extends beyond just being feminine males to being these kinda terminally online gooner adjacent males. And hey do what you want with your life, but i dont really wanna be near that. Also im fine with getting old im fine with wrinkles and lines and saggier skin, all just evidence that ive lived. I just hope I stay in the gym to keep my strength and mobility when im unc. I also won't have to deal with menopause or losing testosterone later In life so basically I should be good on alot of the stuff that makes old people significantly weaker. Idk the thought doesnt bother me.
>>41293268>square jaw>muscular forearms>short neck Ngmi
>>41293268>once again showing off sub room temperature iqit's okay being dumb is part of the appeal
>>41292030i think the femboys who hate trannies are a just a loud minority of gay bottoms who like the femboy label and have no problem with the idea of looking like a man one day because they are just gay. they see being a tranny as a gay boy ruining himself without thinking that maybe those people arent the same as he is
>>41292258i hate that "would you rather grow into an old man or woman" because i think nobody really wants to be old and its a stupid way to think about your desires. people live for the person they are right now not the person they will be in decades.i like hrt because it makes me feel better about myself, makes me feel like i have access to things i would otherwise not be able to do, makes me feel more myself even if im imperfect. i hate thinking about myself as a man or a woman because those are just cages. im just trying to be me. so do whatever makes you feel like yourself.
>>41293403>they see being a tranny as a gay boy ruining himself without thinking that maybe those people arent the same as he isjust to play devil's advocate: the same can also be said of vice versa. from personal experience, i think the femboy subcultures harm eggs because it gives them an excuse to delay their transition. that's why alot of trannies who were previously femboycoping are vocal about it, they're trying to save others from experiencing what they did and honestly for good reason. what benefit is there to cling onto your femboy persona if you have dysphoria? just to appeal to transphobic chuds who'll discard you for fresh new meat eventually?>>41293416>i hate that "would you rather grow into an old man or woman"it's a pragmatic question, anon. i'm basically just asking "are you aware of the side effects of hrt and does it make you feel better to undergo those changes?" if yes, then do it, don't get so hung up about labels. i like how you totally ignore the part of my reply that comes after that because if you did you would understand that we essentially agree with each other. god, is it too much to ask people to read?
>>41293497it sounds like a pragmatic question but it isnt because my gut reaction is just neither.i have no gender identity though really since i feel more like a failed man and not good enough to be a woman so
>>41290299This list doesn't account for people that just want to crossdress for fetish reasons. Again its tying identity to something that is just a fetish to some people hence the discrepancy between trannies and femboys. They don't dress like women because it relates to their identity, they just think it's hot. I used to crossdress when I was younger, hit twink death and moved on with my life.Citing twink death as a reason for trannyism is just conflating the fear of aging with gender dysphoria.>>41290329narcissistic tendencies like that are really overrepresented in trannies in my experience.
>>41290406some fits should stay in the closet
