The most important reasons that trannies don't pass are as follows:>Refusal to speak at a female pitch.Most people can switch their voice to female with relatively minor effort, and many trannies are good at sounding more naturally female with voice training. The problem is that most trannies these days are too embarassed to use a female voice around others.>Refusal to stop manmodingSpeaks for itself but ime many if not most trannies these days are physically incapable of wearing actual female clothes or actively presenting as female. Because they can't try they don't improve. Again the issue is embarassment.>Refusal to act more or feminine or consider exploring new interests.This is the broadcast category but it spans from Refusal to consider dating men/ being heterosexual, or behave or socialize in a feminine way.Next to these things, small bone differences and pricey surgeries don't matter as much.I don't intend to play the blame game or accuse anyone of being faketrans, but it seems these issues stem from a strong almost autistic belief in an "authentic" male identity as well as deep internalized homophobia (i.e. that being perceived as gay deprives them of relationships, a family, or love) also that things like meta attraction and porn addiction are real.So how can we get these people to break out of the endless cycle of hating themselves, repressing, dooming, and wasting their lives? How do we make the trans community a better place?
>>41291548>as well as deep internalized homophobiahow does that happen?
>>41291553anyone who visits this board knows that trans people fucking hate gay men.
>>41291548I need money and transitioning socially would leave me jobless, I already have a hard time getting temporary jobs so I don't really want to completely destroy all my opportunities for something I don't really need.
>>41291564wouldn't straight trans women want to emulate straight cis women and thus be obsequiously, overly friends towards gay men (especially fems) in hopes of making them an anthropomorphized purse they can exploit as a secondary friend?
>>41291564im a tranny and i love gay meni relate to them very deeply seeing as i was outwardly one for a while. i never felt like i lost that part of myselfi want to date a gay man, in fact. i wouldnt date a straight one, i want to date a gay man since our relationship would be very fundamentally gay despite me being a trans
>>41291630>i want to date a gay maneven if he was a flamer?
>>41291664all the same to mehe can be a little feminine flamer AS LONG AS he doesnt transition on memoment he transitions on me im out
>>41291684Is he allowed to wear nail polish? Have long hair? Where is the line drawn?
>>41291689yeah surewhy bother drawing a line before its needed
>>41291569date a wealthy chaser it's fembrained
>>41291553I am not completely sure but I know many trans women face pressure to identify as gay and this can be a powerful source of dysphoria (such as by trying to live as a gay male and feeling awful). i think lack of self confidence makes them think they could only be seen as gay men if they act feminine.>>41291569My parents and haters on this board said i would never find work if I trooned. But I did, I kept my job, increased my salary, and changed jobs as a troon. You never know until you try.>>41291577This is how I feel toward gay men, it's common sense to me that if you're a women you should think gay men are cute, hot and allies. I actually think most trans women socialize well with gay men, but it's behaving female that seems to elude them.
>>41291564we don't, we just like reminding the homosexuals that bought the drop the T thing that people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you come at us with the whole "mmmm Trannies are hekin freaks bro!" spiel then we will gladly remind you that gays are the ones giving monkey pox to their dogs and having bug chasing AIDS parties.
>>41291954This
>>41291548>PitchPitch is the worst thing to change. Resonance is what you want to change. Speaking with a higher pitch alone is how you get a shitty Mickey Mouse Chris Chan voice
>>41291564anyone who visits the real world knows that you're a shill
>Refusal to speak at a female pitch.>Refusal to stop manmoding>Refusal to act more or feminine or consider exploring new interests.I do all of these things because I think trying to be feminine and failing is more embarrassing than not trying in the first place. I also don't want to be performative about exploring feminine interests.>Next to these things, small bone differences and pricey surgeries don't matter as much.I think the bone differences and stuff like that matter too though and I don't think it helps people to dismiss them. I'm not gonna feel "affirmed in my womanhood" or whatever if I look like a freak and get called a faggot when walking outside. If I was afab I would look feminine no matter what I wore, but I don't because my body is physically, literally different.>>41291564I hate the way gay men are brought up in the context of me being trans, for some reason people choose one of two opinions. Either they say that a) I'm a gay man in denial with internalized homophobia, or then b) they pit me against gay men in some kind of a LGB drop the T move. Those things are not even the fault of gay men though.I also hate drag being associated with trans people even though that's usually more of a gay man hobby. Aside from those things I really don't think about gay men that much.
>>41291722I work for someone when I'm not working under contract, she takes care of my basic needs.>>41291723There's no other choice but to manmode at my job, they don't really care what I do on my free time but it is a very conservative place, they have very strict rules and uniform is taken seriously, I can express myself as long as I don't break those rules. Maybe if I fully passed and changed my name legally but that would mean I'll have to start over with new contacts and that's impossible for me.
>>41291548the more we believe in structure and order the more static and imprisoned we become. the people who talk about "trutrans" and constaly obsess over agp and hsts and all these labels are dead inside. that is not what being alive is. being alive is taking risks to figure out who you are, trying things out. instead people slap a label on themselves and forbid themselves from ever trying, so nothing ever happens and they remain rigid.
