Why do all AMAB bottoms into men have poor self-esteem or hate themselves? Surely it can't be inherent.
everyone else hates bottoms too
>>41292196finding a guy is really hard so it makes you feel defeated
>>41292196why do you think they are into bottoming in the first place? its self harm
>>41292196Masochism probably and that’s why we love them.
>>41292215>finding a guy is really hardIt's not. Men have no standards. You're just picky (as is your right and you probably should be) but finding a guy is not hard
>>41292225>>41292226Anal isn't inherently painful
>>41292236Ik that cause of the prostate but every one I’ve met likes being teased and bullied up to a certain point
>>41292196My father is ashamed of me and I don't have any friends.
>>41292196the ones on apps are, there are plenty of rich gay bottoms with self esteem (and money)
>>41292196Cute picrel, luv the paci. I’ve kind of gotten over a lot of myself hate in the way accepted that this is how I am and there’s not much I can do change it but it doesn’t mean I still don’t feel gross and ashamed. >>41292227He probably means finding someone that actually will love you and wants a real relationship. That is extremely hard to find among faggots. Kind of my excuse why I’ve mainly just remained celibate as a fagcel, along with me being self hating. If I happen to bump into someone in the online spaces I’m in I get along who feels similar to me I’d love to be someones bf, but rn I just cry and poor my heart into other things.
>>41292196Because they were usually different and bullied as kids. Also bottoms are way more likely to be autistic
i'm a bottom tranny and i love my self, not true in the past, but i was able to overcome it
>>41292393Lots of people were bullied as kids and don't suffer from chronic self hatred well into adulthood.Do you have actual evidence on your other claim or is it honscience? Because I highly doubt that. If they were really all giga autists there would be no one on Grindr, no dolls, no flamers. They're all social butterflies.
>>41292196Childhood bullying and family rejection for being faggy and shy. It just eats at you forever.
>>41292452See >>41292442Lots of people are bullied as kids and don't hate themselves like bottoms do
>>41292442There's lots of research that autists are more likely to be gay and trans.
>>41292462Well that’s why I hate myself so much.
>>41292494Ok so procure it
>>41292442Op is just sweeping generalizations I wonder how many bottoms they have met irl
>>41292328>He probably means finding someone that actually will love you and wants a real relationship.man getting misgenderd on ur back up comment must be rough
>>41292584I guess you’re just chronically malecoded I just read you as a fag automatically. Time to rope, wanna split a cyanide pill together?
>>41292196Being a girly boy=bullyingBullying= coping mechanisms like maladaptive daydreaming or smoking weedCoping mechanisms=poor memory Poor memory= academic failure Academic failure= poverty
>>41292621>maladaptive daydreamingfuck you who said you could @ me like that
>>41292621Called out :(
>>41292599i think you just have that idea that everyposter is a male. I legit had like 12 words and sure ill split with ya
>>41292678>i think you just have that idea that everyposter is a maleAm I wrong though?
>>41292678hes not wrong though>cism on this board are male>only malebrained trannies post on this board, so male>pooners are malebrained enough, so male>cisf do not post on 4chan, they are repping pooners. repchads are malebrained, male
>>41292701There’s like a tiny minority of non-tranny femoids who post on 4chan including pooners (I think the majority of “pooners” here are larps) but it’s such a small fraction that as a base line. You should always assume everyone’s male until proven otherwise.
>>41292227>just get pozzed by some ogre on grindr who views you as a piece of meat
>>41292442You make a sweeping generalization in the op and then outright go>erm not all bottoms are like that actuallyWhich means you're either an idiot or are being facetious.Yes, obviously not ALL bottoms hate themselves. Clearly the thread sentiment agrees with the idea and the notion that it stems from childhood and/or trauma is hardly outlandish.Being a typical bottom is simply unmanly: it's submissive, uncompetitive, and alienating. You will struggle among your peers in a typical male group and particularly in a homophobic environment.
>>41292196The thing that AMaBs have is male socializationThe problem is the continued failure to understand or want what the socialization demands of them... leading to a rather alien sense of "man" or "boy" or "tranny" or whatever.There are men that feel they've failed at being men. They try. They earnestly try but still have too much going on mentally to feel at peace.Bottoms just don't fucking get it due to bottom-brain. (People call this "female" brain due to how females usually process their world in this way but it's not a 100% female thing.)
>>41292196because society hates us
>>41293810I've just accepted I'm a low-value male and people hate me for it. I hate myself for it too but women wouldn't like me even if I tried. I'm lucky men are desperate and have no standards
>>41292196I'm a bi male bottom, I don't have poor self esteem or hate myself. I think self-haters are just more likely to post about it.
>>41292196Porn brain, they believe bottom is humiliating and abusive so they put themselves down
>>41294788I'm not really a fan of rhetoric like this. Porn isn't the cause of all ills and there's no evidence it is.I'm OP and I don't even consume porn simply because I don't have the desire to.
>>41292196women as a social class have their value reinforced at every available opportunity to help counteract how shitty it is to date menbottoms suffer the same brunt of violence as women and society just sees them as the same oppressors as straight men
>>41294925I haven't dated straight men on account of being a dude but I've seen just as bad if not worse behavior out of straight women, it's just not highlighted or heavens forbid punished. Even the parents of the men being victimized side with their abuser half the time. What society's motivation is for defending cruel and abusive women is beyond me. Even female pedophiles are minimized, fucking pedophiles.
because every section of society fundamentally hates us and thinks there is something deeply wrong with us. if it wasnt guys bullying us it was girls laughing at us for being fags/gay/not real men/gross yadayada. we are the butt of every joke and the segment of any group that we are a part of that is targeted with all the hate. how can you even respect yourself if thats what you grow up and put up with day in day out. you just think there is something deeply wrong with you as a person
>>41295083>if it wasnt guys bullying us it was girls laughing at us for being fags/gay/not real men/gross yadayada.Women love gay men. They even try to date them before they find out. Are you not familiar with the term "faghag" too? I don't think your problems have to do with being gay
>>41295157maybe in the us but certainly not here especially when I was in school
>>41295186Everywhere unless you live in the Middle East, Africa, or some Eastern European poophole.
>>41292621trvke nvke
>>41292621But gay men have the highest rate of bachelor's degrees awarded for...any demographic, period. >>41295248No it's not a fucking trvke nvke it's vibes based and factually wrong
>>41295232middle eastern majority area and school mostly lebanese,iraqis and syrians :(
>>41295157some women are faghags but it can feel demeaning and then it feels like the openly homophobic ones are just more honest and then you really spiral
>>41295276are you in europe? holy blackpill
>>41295321aus you can narrow down where pretty easy based of that
>>41295232You forgot the uk
>>41297975You only replied this so some /pol/tard could insinuate it's virtually the Middle East.
