Is adult on-set gender dysphoria a thing or am I just a porn addict? I had no symptoms related to GD until I was in my late 20s after almost a decade of being a recluse.
>>41292628why were you a recluse?
>>41292628spider legs typed this post
>>41292628IF you were fem at all before you knew you were trans then i would say you were just repressingBut if you were like a normal fully straight guy before tranny shit then it's definitely porn addiction
rogd doesnt make sense in males at all. its much easier to believe that its actually gd than social contagion, porn addiction, or whatever else genspect is spouting.
I dont get when people say they troon out over a porn addiction.
>>41292628Sounds like porn addiction. If you can be hot then who cares though? If not then keep repping.
>>41292635Because I was avoiding people after moving back home>>41292662I was bi and weird and autistic and have always had long hair but I have a very masculine personality and demeanour >>41292686I would only want to do it if I were hot. Hons frighten me
>>41292698Do you feel like your masculine demeanor is at all forced upon you? Like you're masculine because it works but not because it makes you happy? Did you ever wear women's clothes/underwear when you were a teenager (even as a joke)?
>>41292679i think this is more about being a recluse, the covid tranny effect
>>41292628yes, it's a thing and ROGD is a thing despite what the ppl on this board want you to think.what kind of porn have you been watching OP? it's probably autogynephilia if it's late onset like this.
>>41292948>ROGD is a thing despite what the ppl on this board want you to thinksource?
>>41292628honestly i think we are in a totally new era and transgenderism is just becoming normalized, no longer a pathological medicalized thing. anyone can do it. the barrier to entry is nonexistent.
>>41292698>weird and autistic>very masculine personality and demeanourcongrats you're a transbian
>>41292949me i had rogd at 13 and it still hasnt gone away at 21 its real
>>41292949personal experience + I've talked with others who have experienced ROGD.if you were able to live 16+ years of your life without GD and suddenly it's debilitating and you need to troon it's ROGD.usually people re-narrativize their life, and re-cast depression, trauma, mildly gender non conforming behavior, and dissatisfaction with gender roles as repressed GD. plus parents. despite what people think, parents actually know their kids well. classical GD presentation is early onset. you have people trooning out in their 20s, 30s, 40s without previously showing GNC behavior. there's no explanation for that besides ROGD.also, troons are about the least reliable people to describe their personal experiences. there is massive cognitive bias at play to narrativize your life so that you always had GD or had a wombyn soul from the beginning, and didn't just develop TOCD after coming across /r/egg_irl or watching sissy hypno. being delusional about one thing (thinking you're a woman despite being male) predisposes you to be delusional about other things (like your past).
>>41292679they're stupidtrannies gravitated for a long time to this sort of stuff because there are not many other avenues that this stuff is a thing/exploredunironically only the dumbest fucking trannies believe rogd or trooning over porn is a real thing. sure there are like 5 outliers on earth at any given time like with anything else but lmao
>>41292641heh
>>41293026>>41292679y'all are missing the point. porn (sissy hypno, female POV, transformation porn) can cause latent AGP to metastasize into gender dysphoria when it otherwise wouldn't, not to mention the general deleterious effect of porn on your soul.
>>41293009you dont have to show GNC behavior, its heavily stigmatized against. some people get scolded by their mom as a kid and then never act feminine again because they want to be normal.
>>41292907Not really, in fact when I was younger (and even today to some extent) I was really insecure about not being manly enough. No crossdressing, ever.>>41292948Honestly 99% of my porn consumption is here on 4chan, so mostly hentai>>41292973Eww
>>41293044not true i have a cis male friend with agp that watches sissy hypno (god i wish i didn't know this shit) and it's been years and he's never expressed any interest in trooning
>>41293104Is sissy hippno a porn thing? Thought it was a youtube tranny meme
>>41293052yeah this is the cope people always use "I totally would have been GNC if all the mean ppl around me hadn't beaten it out of me!" but the classical transsexuals and true early onset GD people are so GNC they literally can't have it "beaten out of them". this is exactly the renarrativization I'm talking about, making excuses for not showing GNC behavior earlier despite apparently having a wombyn soul>>41293104usually transition requires alienation from masculinity (or trauma or other factors) + AGP. many AGPs don't transition.the alienation from your gender is the push factor and the AGP is the pull factor.
>>41293194theres no arguing with people like you because you think about being a tranny like a nazi thinks about being aryan. things dont always work out perfectly in life, if someone feels extreme distress over their gender but they only started feeling this way in their teens then they should transition shouldnt they? or should they just rep because they werent playing with dolls and dancing to showtunes at 3?
>>41293254yes, they should definitely rep. If you lived 16+ years of your life as your assigned gender without issue, clearly you can go back to doing that if you cleanse yourself of the troon brainrot.This idea that "repressing" always leads to misery, suicide, or john 50 ing is retarded and incorrect. By your standards there have been millions of miserable "repressors" in the past who were secretly trans but never got exposed to enough troon propaganda to realize it.
>>41293279>living 16+ years of your lifefirst 10 as a child and the following 6 as a teenage boy going through puberty is not the same as living as a man dont be dishonest>"repressing" always leads to misery, suicide, or john 50 ing is retarded and incorrect.well yes thats the opposite kind of retarded as saying only the most trutrans should transitionthe reality is gender is more death by a thousand cuts, its not innate, you are being molded by a lot of things over a long period of time. some people who would transition in certain societies would never transition in others for example. more people than ever are trooning now just because for the first time there is actual community and support. its a viable way to live that doesnt alienate you from absolutely everyone anymore.you have the oldschool tranny viewpoint that is rapidly dying because it is no longer needed.
>Is adult on-set gender dysphoria a thing or am I just a porn addict? I had no symptoms related to GD until I was in my late 20s after almost a decade of being a recluse.
>>41293339Oh, I don't even think "true trans" should transition. Nobody is "true trans". For some people the mental illness and/or delusion is just more deeply rooted and intractable than in others.
>>41293194>but the classical transsexuals and true early onset GD people are so GNC they literally can't have it "beaten out of them".This is due to other personality traits like low inhibition and quite likely lower intelligence.
>>41293492utter cope
>>41293530High IQ + high inhibition + high agreeableness + strong puberty = Repression
>>41292628this image makes me want to rope i will never be this beautiful i will never be a bride i will never have a wedding i will never have kids a man will never love me the way he would a real woman i'm a nothing
>>41292628You're a porn addict. Please touch grass before your fetish takes over your life.
>>41292628Its not a thing, especially if you’ve masturbated to agp pornography before. Please don’t transition and make us look bad.
>>41292628Yes, late-onset dysphoria is a recognized phenomenon, late-onset dysphoria is from puberty onwards, and such dysphorics tend to be gynephilic.Autogynephilia can lead to a gradually developing cross-gender identity, one that doesn't become strong enough to cause dysphoria until adulthood.
>>41292628>>41292698> I had no symptoms related to GD until I was in my late 20s after almost a decade of being a recluse.28. Same here. Probably just a product of isolation and too much screen time. The fact that you consider that it even could be porn addiction means you know you're looking at that stuff way too much, because if you weren't then it wouldn't have been a possibility worth bringing up. >I was bi and weird and autistic and have always had long hair but I have a very masculine personality and demeanourI'm weird with a borderline autistic personality. Pretty much checking the same boxes on masculinity, though I've never had long hair and bi for me is only occasional invasive thoughts. Most of what you're saying is oddly relatable, so whatever is happening is similar>>41292686>>41292929Pretty much this
It's probably just porn addiction. Thanks guys. I will ask again in a month when it flairs up
>>41292628It's pseudoscience. It's only a matter of self awareness and getting it diagnosed professionally with therapy. It isn't a choice, fetish, or social contagion. People just frame it that way to gaslight, belittle, and trivialize the existence of tranoids.
>>41292948AGP has been debunked for ages. You're as bad as those people who still believe "alpha male wolves" are a thing. Or astrology outside of memes.
>>41293345The actual groomers are and always have been extremely prejudice straights who go out of their way to smear LGBT. 99.3% of p3d0s are cis straight men. 99% of all perpetrators for sexual assault are cis straight men. The political leanings of the majority of predators are right leaning. Nobody can be "groomed" into being LGBT. Conversion "therapy" never turned anyone straight or cis. Also, a lot of ypu dense fucks rape LGBT to "turn them straight". The official term is "corrective" rape. Which is pretty fucking disgusting and cringe. People who aren't straight have to suffer at the hands of shallow, disingenuous, fallacious, predatory fuckwits. Yet you have the audacity to play innocent. Fuck outta here. Lmao
>>41293898>AGP has been debunked for ages.How?
>>41292628The "porn addict" narrative was invented by CSA victims who were groomed into taking hormones at the age of 8 when they were "fresh eggies"They want revenge, and the way they get it is to lash out at adults who just want to live their lives and have autonomy over their own bodies, so they do everything they can to associate adult transition with perversion and predatory behavior. Because to them, that's what all of this is. They can't un-groom themselves, but they can certainly make other people suffer.
>>41293279>>41293009define living
>>41292628finnster has visible cleavage and i dont its so fucking over
all narratives are counter factual, agp and porn addiction are real, but as narratives to explain why you are who you are they make no sense at all. they are just something you do or feel. they cannot motivate you. you are not "just" agp or "just" a porn addict. you are a very complex system. what difference does it make anyway? you could be the most trutrans hsts ever and not pass and look like a man. you could be the most agp sissy ever and look like a doll. what is more valid? is either valid? should we define ourselves entirely by how we think or how we appear? internal or external? both are mirages. you need both, you need to be actually yourself and know what you really want. dont look for answers, look for questions, be actually alive in the world, have doubts, try new things, embrace who you must be so you can become who you are.
>>41292628Gender dysphoria is a culture bound syndrome, ultimately it is only a feeling of dissatisfaction with yourself. Get a hobby, maybe a pet.
