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Sooooooo im REALLY divided on the hasan piker dog torturing debacle. Some are saying its an air tag, others are saying its a shock collor. I really dont know which is true anymore.
At first when i saw it i thought, yep, that must be a shock colour, but only because that thought was put into my mind.


However there is still the sus thing of the dog's yelp, and him not reacting to it.
For this we'd need more data of the dog, how often does it yelp? Is this a first time thing? If so itd certainly incredibly fucking sus.. let me just imagine for a momeng i have a dog, im gaming, then i hear it yelp, the first thing i do is turn around and look at the dog, analyzing what has happened assessing for dmg and whether i need to repair/heal it.

Hasan doesnt do this.
So i have to use occams razor and go with the theory that he is an animal abuser.

This is also, really, really bad press for pro palestine people such as myself. I hopeit doesnt influence global politics too much.
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>>41294508
Touch grass
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>>41294517
Mean
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>>41294508
Hasan is a loser, nepo-baby, grifter and I wouldn’t be surprised if he abused animals much like he abuses the trust of women who throw themselves at him. Just because somebody says something you agree with doesn’t mean he’s not a piece of shit, he was a wannabe Andrew Tate clone that found grifting on the left to be more profitable due to money bags of ā€œwhite saviorsā€. >>41294517 said it best
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>>41294508
im a sociopath who hates dogs and even i would look at a dog if it yelped to see if something happened. pretty sure he just didnt hear it or was distracted or some shit
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lgbt?
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Idk who this hasan faggot is but I've seen his name mentioned here a few times and I really don't understand parasocial relationships. Why the fuck should I care about "hasan"
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caring about a dog you do not own? you have the soul of a pure maiden
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>>41294508
OP is not wrong with her conclusion but shes clearly jealous because she wants to be Hasan's abused, yelping puppygirl.
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>>41295063
You're an ethnonationalist
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>>41294508
Maybe don't make your politics revolve around online entertainers.
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>>41294508
Hasan is one of the pillars keeping trans people safe. I could care less what he does to his dog to be frank. Don't let the enemy divide us.
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>>41295292
KEKKKK

>>41295392
A rotten pillar does more harm than good in the long run, and besides, the ends dont justify the means. If we excuse animal abuse we'll be just as bad as rightoids
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>>41295292
god huh i wonder how much art of puppygirls being shocked by a collar is going to be produced as a result of this blowing up
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>>41295292
honestly….. would would would…
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>>41295426
ok but youre just falling for clip bait. you arent holding anything accountable. you have no idea if theres actually abuse, all there is is a few second clip and a lot of people who want to overblow it.
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>>41295706
ok wait maybe he is abusing his dog OP, just saw the clip. its over hasansisters, pack it up.
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>>41295139
^
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>>41295728
stfu. discussion by lgbt is enough. you dont have to have the whole board swamped by insecurities about being lgbt or passing or threatening politics.
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>>41294508
Shock collars activate when a dog barks. In the clip the dog doesn’t bark, it just yelps for no reason it seems.
Idk what people are trying to do here
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>>41295782
theyre trying to say he shocked the dog when the dog was trying to move from the bed. he moves a little and then the dog yelps.

and no shock collars dont only activate on bark, there are ones that activate by controller.
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>>41295834
Didn’t know those were a thing
I dunno; still kinda up in the air about it. Someone posted an AirTag collar that looked the same. Ethan Klein also would’ve used this as leverage at some point if there was any weight to it. All just seems reach-ish.
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>>41295875
true. they will reach at anything. the clip did look bad to me though. i dont think its actually evidence of him being an animal abuser. it just looks bad
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>>41294508
hasan is a virtue signaling chud, not any kind of genuine leftist. if he was, he'd be doing real activism and partnering with humanitarian orgs and human rights orgs.

the moment after he shocks the dog, he becomes very stuttery, emblematic not of remorse but of a recognition that he's done something wrong. my brother used to abuse our dog and acted exactly the same way when someone caught him.

>but she's being such a baby
>mom spoils her
>she should be able to handle a bit of punishment

he calls his bad internet connection "emblematic of the violence of America" and he's projecting, he fetishizes crime and punishment for lesser-than-him types, just not those he considers superior.

he's just like all the rest, he's just better at lying.
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The dog was stressed due to getting lightly scolded and overreacted to scraping its dew-claw on the bed
Then Hasan reacts weird because the dog yelped for seemingly no reason
Turning this into a scandal is wild lol
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>>41295911
if the bed was what hurt her, she would have jumped away from it, not directly back to it. she knew exactly what the pain meant and what to do because she's been trained.

her shoulders jump like it's her neck that hurts, and she immediately returns to her place. she's been shock trained to lay down and not bother him during his 8hr stream.
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>>41295906
Realpost
Hasan has done something like this probably a dozen times, live with 5-digit viewers. He is a really good media literacy litmus for normies. One of my favorites was him calling some random guy a retard because he was mad at a video game, like 3 days after ranting about how evil that word is and anyone who says it is a chud
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>>41295906
he gives interviews to people working with and in humanitarian orgs and positions. he just doesnt believe in the charity system, which he sees as an corporate excuse to not enact actual social policy to support people and make systemic change. and hes right honestly.
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Who cares?
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>>41295906
This is all true. Im a leftist/philosophical anarchist but Hasan is just a poser/virture signaler for the Left. So optically, I try to support him, but holy shit he has absolutely no idea what hes talking about most of the time. And he did blatantly shocke his dog and keep her stuck to that bed.

My parents started doing shit like this to their new dog after decades of just having a dog the normal way and, and its just horrifying.

I genuinely think the internet made everyone overthink their dog-raising abilities and made them all just think you need to abuse/shock/and cage your dog at all times.
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>>41295365
That's a compliment.
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hasan is hot and i wish more chasers had his phenotype. idc that he denies the armenien genocide or whatever
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>>41295984
>Im an anarchist
i am not going to read the rest of that.
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>>41295984
he wears 3k skate pants with fake paint on it like its a contractors garment hes automatically a faggot because i love money and i would never spend money to pose as a labourer thats beatdown worthy
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>>41296005
Im not an anarchist tho lol. I voted for Biden.

I wrote that so people don't get the idea that Im a commie or a chud pretending to be a leftist.
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>>41296023
POOOOSSERRRRRRRR
JUST SAY WHAT U MEAN AND DONT LIE ITS THE INTERNET LOL u didnt need to do that
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>>41294508
I'm a black transbian man and I can personally say that Hasan did nothing to that dog.
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>>41296023
the only leftists with anything resembling respect in the post-soviet world are democratic socialists, eurocommunists and the like.
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>>41296037
thank you anon, my confidence is restored in him.
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>>41296036
READ WHAT I WROTE LMFAO
>>>Im a leftist/philosophical anarchist
I say philosophical anarchist because I dont think anarchism is realistic or would ever work with how selfish people are, but it is the most moral social system. I say philosophical anarchist because thats what most religious leaders are. Encouraging people to live their lives anti hierarchical is beneficial for everyone.
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>>41296038
>the only leftists with anything resembling respect in the post-soviet world are democratic socialists, eurocommunists
Real and extremely, extremely unfortunate.
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>>41296050
shut up im not reading that
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>>41296015
He once said that as a kid he just didnt like to see smaller people get bullied, so he stands up for them. I see his entire political career as that. He just thinks hes using his muscles to defend a bunch of queer optics.
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>>41296066
its three fuckung sentences ;_;
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>>41295953
sounds like lazy pontificating to absolve himself of any actual responsibility so he can just continue to sit in his room and yell at a screen instead of doing anything useful with his money that he loves so much
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out of EVERYTHING this grifting fucking chode has done and said THIS is what makes people think twice about him. insane
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>>41296079
tracks, he probably likes that they find him hot for doing so
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>>41296005
>i'm a bootlicker
>i also don't know how to engage with people who's opinions are different from mine, so i just won't
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>>41294508
I heard my cat yell yesterday, and I left my roommate mid sentence and gave his bong back. I've never failed to answer my babies call.

She was just nervous about getting off a high window sil, btw.

Her whims also come over game time with friends, if she wants to cuddle or play, frankly it's more important I maintain a good bond with my sweet baby than finish whatever minecraft farm I'm working on, it'll still be there in an hour when she's napping again.

So yeah, not responding to a yelp is neglect in my honest opinion. They can't talk, that's the same as hearing a loud bang and not checking on your toddler.
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>>41296107
it was more a yelp though. In my opinion he did reach for a shock remote and thats why she yelped.

Even him keeping her in that one spot while he streams for 8+ hours is so fucking sad and gross
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>>41296151
Does he still keep her in the pen? I haven't watched any political content since all the Trump news makes me spiral into doomer thoughts, she should be plenty old enough to free roam the house by now??
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>>41296084
using money for charity doesn't make you a good person. it just means you have money to give. if every person with money is supposed to give it away, shouldn't they just be taxed and provide actual social programs and initiatives? The usual excuse to not do that is charities. Governments that support austerity push them as an alternative, while robbing you of actual help. They are not an engine of social change but instead a tool of conserving the wealth of capital
>donations to charity give tax breaks
>nonprofit status makes them tax free
>many of these organizations are political in nature and slanted to the right
>they are often rooted in religion and they openly discriminate
At best they are a testing ground for proving social policy, but they almost always aren't.
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>>41294508
Who cares, animals are meant to serve man not the opposite, how they are treating is none of your concern. And the Quran dictates that dogs are unclean and filthy animals. Their feelings don't matter. You are some white freak who cares more about animals when they are just servants of man.
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>>41296189
Shes always on that cot from what Ive seen. She does seem like a big and lazy dog, but Hadan didnt want her getting up for some reason.

It reminds me of my mom who locks her dog up just because she doesnt like to hear the dogs nails click of the floor :( just dont get a dog at that point
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>>41296107
ur baby is so cutee whats her name and please post another picture
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>>41296089
you are right wing
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>>41295365
Everyone is an ethnonationalists except for WEIRDs. Even China (a nominally communist country) is staunchly ethnonationalist.
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>>41296214
>shouldn't they be taxed more instead of expected to do charity?

literally yes.

but if we're not currently taxing them, that doesn't absolve them of responsibility to their community.

he should be doing real work. if he's such a tranny supporter, why isn't he setting up a system for trannies to get support? he has plenty of money to.

if he doesn't like his current options for candidates, why doesn't he run?

if he supports palestine, why isn't he funding a flotilla ship?

he's not a leftist; he's a buzzword machine that says provocative shit to get views for cash.
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>Sooooooo im REALLY divided on the hasan piker dog torturing debacle. Some are saying its an air tag, others are saying its a shock collor. I really dont know which is true anymore.
At first when i saw it i thought, yep, that must be a shock colour, but only because that thought was put into my mind.
<snca space
<retard who can't format xhis reddit post space
>However there is still the sus thing of the dog's yelp, and him not reacting to it.
For this we'd need more data of the dog, how often does it yelp? Is this a first time thing? If so itd certainly incredibly fucking sus.. let me just imagine for a momeng i have a dog, im gaming, then i hear it yelp, the first thing i do is turn around and look at the dog, analyzing what has happened assessing for dmg and whether i need to repair/heal it.
<snca space
Hasan doesnt do this.
>So i have to use occams razor and go with the theory that he is an animal abuser.
<snca space
>This is also, really, really bad press for pro palestine people such as myself. I hopeit doesnt influence global politics too much.
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>>41296229
You Jews need to just shut the fuck up already. You're not tricking anyone.
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>>41295365
What?? I don’t think I’ve ever touted those ideas
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A transbian is talking. Listen and learn.
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>>41296151
Some people have never had a dog and it shows
I work from home sometimes and when I do my dog sits at the same spot for 4 hours, twice in a day even! Dogs like to be around people, it's not that hard to understand
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>>41296233
Her legal name is Miss Pancake, but she only responds to Stinky and Baby. Because frankly I made her name too long :x
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>>41296279
>he should be doing real work. if he's such a tranny supporter, why isn't he setting up a system for trannies to get support? he has plenty of money to.
>if he doesn't like his current options for candidates, why doesn't he run?
>if he supports palestine, why isn't he funding a flotilla ship?
>he's not a leftist; he's a buzzword machine that says provocative shit to get views for cash.
Exactly. Hes the laziest, most do-nothing "political" commentator. Right wingers will rape their community with just 10k. Really its pathetic that the rest of us arent standing up to organize when the best we got is this fucking dipshit
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>>41296279
ok i see your point anon. he is hot though and his buzzwords are cool, so i'll keep watching him. but maybe i will try and shame him for not contributing. although at the very minimum he is contributing media attention to issues that matter. he is one of the largest platforms for the left, and he didn't become a neolib like contrapoints as he got wealthy. he's still leftist
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>>41296303
If you think Im trying to say dogs DONT like being around people, youre confused. And youre bad faith if you think verbally enforcing a dog to stay on a cot for 8 hours straight is the same as her wanting human interaction, then you are just bad faith.

The point is that the people who enforce their dog to sit in one spot right next to them, are not the types of people who are doing it for the dogs benefit.

Vast vast vast majority of people, like you and I, dont need to enforce our dogs to hang out with us lol. The way you talk about your dog makes it sound like youre new to it.
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>>41296315
i go out of my own way and do what i can even though im poor as fuck, i volunteer at the food bank and the women's shelter, i provide free maintenance and repair services to trans people that i charge for for others..

that's why i know he's a chud
he has infinitely more time and money than i'll ever have and he'll never do anything real with it if it means his bank account is smaller or he doesn't get as much time in the gym or at his computer
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>>41296317
based anon is open minded and can accept another side's opinion

i would challenge the last thing you said by saying you can't claim to be against neoliberals if you act like one. he's loud about controversial topics as a way to get more viewership. sure, he sometimes says a good thing or two, but often he's just trying to be as inflammatory as possible. his behavior is how you should gauge his political stance, not his speech. and his behavior is decidedly neolib and toxically masculine.
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>>41296336
Is he forcing the dog or are you assuming he is because someone said so? I doubt anyone in this thread actually watched this whole stream
My dog spends 8 hours a day in the same place willingly, so why couldn't his? We're both retards sitting in front of the computer all day
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>>41296340
>Get people mad at Hasan
>Divide his audience
>Start stream saying the exact same shit Hasan says
>Actually use it to fund organizations

for real tho any of you autistic trannies could easily start your new career as a political revolutionary TODAY
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>>41296292
This is the mindset of most of the world, animals and their suffering are considered unimportant. Only white westerners care
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>>41296380
In the video that OP is talking about, he gets mad at the dog for getting up and tells her to sit down, he MAYBE presses a shock button, the dog Yelps, and then he tells her to stop again. So in this case, he was definitely making her sit there.

And every stream he has her just sit there. Which I can just assume shes old and lazy or really overfed, which is its own problem. But after this video, Im pretty sure he keeps her on that cot in the exact same way my parents and a lot of other insecure dog owners have started to do post-tiktok-era.

I genuinely think the internet/tiktok has made dog owners too insecure/overthinking about how to "morally" raise a dog, and it makes them think dogs are really stupid, incapable of taking care of themselves, and that they need to be more domineering to the animal. Watching new dog owners these days is genuinely horrifying.
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>>41296368
I do disagree with the idea of maintaining a certain aesthetic of leftism. even if he can be clickbaity and gets wrapped up in a bit of drama, he maintains good nature and decorum about other people and gives them a lot of chances. he wants to be a way out for people, into a different way of seeing things. he isn't really inflamatory. not in the same way as people who are right wing or neolib are, he understands boundaries, and corrects himself when he meets them.
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>>41296483
>he maintains good nature and decorum about other people and gives them a lot of chances
Wait who are you talking about again
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>>41296303
It's not that people don't have a dog, it's more that 90% of dog owners make no effort to actually train their dog and just treat it as their replacement child rather than an animal. If you give your dog the command to sit in one spot it should do that until you give the okay, if it's getting up and wiggling around it's testing your boundaries. But, I also think it's extremely weird to put your dog in the background of your political commentary stream. Some "controversy" like this was inevitably gonna happen. Put the dogs place off camera, nobody can see it problem solved. You got the dog for your personal life reasons not as advertisement for your online persona, hopefully. It should be separated with the rest of your family members who do not wish to be on camera.
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>>41296384
Imho, ""humans"" that dont carr about animal suffering are simply subhuman. There is no 2 ways about it.

Im not saying white people are exempt from this either.

But at least many white people will have layers of cognitive dissonance in them to distract from the fact an innocent aniaml was killed.
Now im not a great example either, i eat meat, but i limit it to only a few animals, which is still objectively evil but at least im transparent about it.

But once you do stuff like in that pic related, im convinced pieces of your soul are essentially being designated for a very.. special... place.

I mean, even i can tell, in death i will not go to the same place as vegans go to. Because vegans are just better humans than me, simply put.
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>>41294508
>terrorism, anti-white communism and calling for murder against republicans
>transbian: :)
>hasan obviously torturing his dog
>h-he didn't really do it
You're evil and a total pos, you know.
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>>41295426
>anti-white, totalitarian, marxist terrorist-lover doesn't want to be as bas as those rightwingers that love freedom and don't want open borders
lol
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>>41294508
there was a flashing light on the collar, the dog stayed in that one spot for 4 hours straight, and hasan has admitted to owning a shock collar in the past and stated that it was very effective.
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>>41298200
>those rightwingers that love freedom
right wingers only care about 'freedom' when it's the freedom to live their lives the way they want. as for everyone else…
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>>41298265
>"I know nothing about right wing ideology except that they are all Nazi's!!!"
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>>41298440
there is no "ideology", only a playbook. you're a useful idiot.
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>>41298183
>terrorism, anti-white communism and calling for murder against republicans
You're saying that like I'm supposed to think it's a wrong thing to do...
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>>41298475
What a retard.
How can there be a playbook if there are no underlying principles that dictate the structure of the playbook?
You are literally a Grade F moron and are too stupid for the internet.
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>>41298523
rightoids (except the useful idiots) don't have a vision for society, just a set of tactics to gain them personal power
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>>41296237
you are terminally a nitwit
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>>41298440
conservatives want the freedom to keep their kids from learning about gay people, but also want to force schools to put the ten commandments in every classroom. they want the freedom to give their child ivermectin instead of vaccines, but want to strip people of their freedom to pursue medical transition. they want to get married, but they don't want gay people to. they want the freedom to buy firearms without background checks, but don't mind a surveillance state. they want the freedom to plaster their religious symbols on public property, but want to outlaw porn. etc etc etc
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>>41298551
>rightoids (except the useful idiots) don't have a vision for society
Yes they do.
When you get your first brain cell, you might work it out too.

>>41298586
Spoken like an absolute retard that has never met a right winger in their life.
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>>41298586
you have said the actual truth
>>41298604
literally pathetic conservative dissimulation btw. their bread and butter
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>>41298688
>literally pathetic conservative dissimulation btw. their bread and butter
You still have no clue what you are talking about.
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>>41298586
don't forget their entire ideology is built around bootlicking and giving everything they have to the upper classes simply for being born into privilege. It's literally cuck ideology. Probably why they get so obsessed with bbc porn
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>>41294508
we can all tell you're a Destiny/Ethan fan it's painfully obvious and no one here cares

even brainworms doesn't make people so retarded that they can't tell this is all made up

the dog bruised it's dewclaw that's why it yelped and later hasan shows the collar and it only vibrates, it doesn't shock

also shocking collars don't just shock dogs if you press a button that's retarded he doesn't reach for a remote he later showed on stream he was reaching for a zyn can

some dogs sleep in the same spot for hours all day it's completely normal it doesn't mean there is any kind of abuse it's painfully obvious none of y'all have ever owned a dog

you need to touch grass because this shit is actually making you people more demented than you even realize
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>>41298827
>reddit spacing to defend a terrorist nepo baby animal abuser grifter
why dont you kys?
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>>41298827
i dont think office retard is a destiny nerd i think shes just conflicted and confused. as someone who is a very casual fan of hasan, while i may not think he shocked it, i do still think he eas shitty. the main problem here is that he didnt checked up on it nor seemed bothered by it in pain. it seems like he doesnt care. if he checked on it there wouldnt be any drama. idk the guy is pretty dense and stupid sometimes
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>transbian opinion on-
SHUT UP BITCH
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>>41298604
>Spoken like an absolute retard that has never met a right winger in their life.
my entire family is right-wing, and i grew up buying into the ideology.
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t. people who care about dumb celebrities
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how do you do fellow tranners as a fellow former-hasan fan im feeling super conflicted about hasan fucked his dog, tortured it and ate it all on stream. he has been streaming 10 hrs a day everyday but for some reason just now he decided to boil his dog alive live. also that blonde chick and all the other people who have visited hasan before have never noticed the fact that hasan literally has a barbed wire noose around the neck of his poor hecking doggo. i guess they must have been gaslighted by the evil terrorist defender

this man likes raping dogs because he is a muslim and a terrorist. anyways what does /pol/ i mean /lgbt/ think (this is an on topic thread btw)
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>>41294508
This whole post screams smear campaign cause he immediately looks over at Kaya and then when he finishes his thought to chat he gets up to check on her
Are you from kiwifarms or perhaps an ethan enjoyer?
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>>41298934
>my entire family is right-wing, and i grew up buying into the ideology.
How did you fuck it up so bad then?
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>>41299022
But you can see him reach off screen the dog yelps in pain, lays down, and then he bitches and calls the dog a baby for being in pain you can also see the light on the collar . Anon either you’re blind to what happened or willfully retarded?
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>>41299022
it is so autistic how fast these guys have gotten at spamming outright lies on every platform they can find about one guy. like every forced meme controversy it will just be forgotten in 2 weeks
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>>41299039
>How did you fuck it up so bad then?
by not being stupid.
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>>41296300
you constantly talk about how immigration is bad and how a white society is preferable
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>>41299140
I don’t think I’ve said that, I need proof of these statements, I’ve def said I don’t support terrorism, but I think immigration is good if you’re willing to work and assimilate into society
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>>41295365
>>41296300
>>41299140
>>41299165
Lol its funny how you just gave up on what you believed in just because you got socially ostracized by some anonymous poster on a mongolian basket weaving forum
this is just how most leftism exists in the wild desu
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>>41295140
hes so hot i need him inside of me
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>>41299370
You have dogshit taste he's so average
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Isn't the homeland security chief openly a dog killer? And in general this is seen as ok? So what's the big deal with some C-list e-celeb putting a training collar on his dog?

Don't answer, I don't care. I don't care about hasan piker or his dog. I'm just being inundated with mentions of this non-issue and this is my response. Please touch grass.
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>>41299390
t. jealous incel chud
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I am a transbian and I would really like to have sex with hasan piker.
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>>41299273
hm?
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>>41299273
Que? I wouldn’t say I’m a leftist, since I’m not that dumb :/
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>>41299165
>i don't support terrorism
but you think it's ok that Israel is bombing women and children lol also a mod said you often spam racist shit as anon
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>>41299507
I said I don’t care it’s sad people die but it has nothing to do with me and think Israel/jewish people are kinda cool, also mods are losers on power trips lol
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>>41299390
no i get wym. BUT ITS HIS VIBE. like there’s just something about him like his aura. he looks good when he can acc manage to style himself well. when he doesn’t it’s funny in an endearing way. i need him to pound me
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>>41299692
>it has nothing to do with me
uhh your tax dollars are going directly to weapons for israel who are in turn committing genocide in your name
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>>41299708
Oh well ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ the world turns and burns its just what it is, am I not supposed to pay taxes, am I supposed not to care about every atrocity under the sun, like I’m not going to play white savior to people who would prefer faggots like me were dead, it’s infantilizing
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>>41299703
Hes a huge douche more so than even the average chuds I meet. Hes hardly says thanks, never laughs at his friends jokes, barely offers any emotion to anything other than yelling at his own fans. Hes so miserable to try to watch
Im sure some of it is anxiety but hes definitely not someone whos trying to make the people around him feel comfortable.
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>>41296384
yet another win for white westerners
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>>41299963
White westerners extending empathy to every thing that exists on earth is causing them to commit demographic suicide. So it's not really a win. Clannish cultures that only view animals in a utilitarian lens are inherently superior just because they will survive this century.
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>>41299893
yeah he’s pretty fucking miserable but that’s like all men so idrc i want him to fill my holes like one night stand

captcha: nakd8
it’s a sign
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>>41299816
I don't think the innocent women and children getting bombed want you dead lmfao
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>>41298827
kinda crazy how hasan changes his story + he taped up the collar HAHAH https://arazu(dot)io/t3_1o1nvoc/?timeframe=all&category=hot
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>>41300260
Well it’s not just women and children? I think it’s gross to try to use others tragedy to strong arm your opinion, it shows a level of manipulation rather than compassion. Like if it matters that much why aren’t you there helping them?
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>>41299073
You mean the vibration collar?
Dumbasses everywhere
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hasan's obviously a sociopath, which shouldn't surprise anyone. Destiny is too.



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