First and foremost, this post is not intended as an attack of any kind, but as a search for information and in a spirit of openness.Disclaimer - I am a cis bisexual male with a stable marriage of over a decade to a girl (it just happened, could as well been a boy) and I'd position myself in the middle of the Kinsey scale.I want to talk about transexual people. MtF, FtM, it does not matter.My question is, why do you feel compelled to transition? Yes, I know about AGP, and the must more important feeling of not belonging to one's body.I have seen my share of trans people (both types), and it has always left me wondering. Would they be happier if they simply didn't transition? If they stayed as a femboy, or as a butch girl, or whatever? Every single trans person I've met didn't quite pass, no matter how much masculine (FtM) or feminine (MtF) features they strived for. And that's a fact that hits most trans people like a train. Would it be better to just accept the fact you were born with the wrong genes and just exist as a happy, fulfilled, female or male attracted all encompassing third gender?Feminisation procedures and the like seem to me absolutely fine in this scope, but it would exclude gender reassignment surgeries, which only serve to show people they can't physically change their sex (attention to the difference between gender and sex), which almost invariably results in suicide and other bad things.
People are the most beautiful as is, be they male or female. Why throw that out of the window just to run and try to catch an impossible thing? Seems to me like an absolute downward spiral that can only end in tragedy.Imagine a guy, that doesn't feel like a guy, so he basically feminises himself, in regards to looks and habits, clothing, whatever, but still thinks of himself as male, or as a third gender, who doesn't has to go through every single day faking his voice or trying too hard to seem something he isn't. Or a girl that feels the need to look like a boy, so she does, but doesn't try to cut her chest or anything like that.Basically, what I am asking is:Why don't trans people just acknowledge their sex and live with it, while acting as they want, be it womanly, manly or something inbetween or absolutely androgynous?I fear I haven't made myself clear or will be pelted with insults, so forgive me but I've drunk a bit.
>>41299561>My question is, why do you feel compelled to transition?I had dysphoria that made me want to crawl out of my skin. I had intrusive thoughts of cutting myself out of it. I showered three times the year before I transitioned because I couldn't stand interacting with my body>Would they be happier if they simply didn't transitionI would be dead or currently dying from fungus eating me alive>Every single trans person I've met didn't quite passNot passing sucks, but I also didn't pass as a woman before so I lost nothing and gained a lot. People can be weird and annoying but you learn to deal with it>Would it be better to just accept the fact you were born with the wrong genes and just exist as a happy, fulfilled, female or male attracted all encompassing third gender? Not possible
Last question by the way, is the surge in transgenderism caused by promises of what could be, that are really never materialised, on the media and social networks, etc, compared with the steady growth in acceptance of attainable objectives like third genderism, femboyism, etc at the eyes of society?
>>41299620Why did you feel like that? Was it a feeling you had since very young, or a developing feeling with age?>lost nothing and gained a lotI didn't understand your point, sorry.Are you happier now than before transitioning? Did you try to simply accept that you weren't quite one gender or the other?
>>41299652I felt completely dissociated as soon as I started puberty. I think I wanted to be a girl before then too, but my memories from everything that happened before I was 13 are so hazy, that might be a distortion.>Are you happier now than before transitioning?Yes, much happier, its night and day. I was suicidal for as long as I can remember before j transitioned. Things aren't easy, but they keep getting better and every year since starting has been the best of my life>Did you try to simply accept that you weren't quite one gender or the other?Kind of, to me it was never really about gender or identity or whatever. My distress mainly came from how my body was and how it would continue to develop. That was impossible for me to make peace with. I tried to live with a more ambiguous social role, but all that did for me was show me that I'd already strayed significantly from social expectations so I might as well transition like I actually wanted to instead half assing it
>>41299561>>41299565>whydysphoria>just be a femboyhated flat chest, beard, etc far far far more than social expectations. >but you were more beautiful beforedisagree>srs invariably leads to suicidewrongit seems like what your saying boils down to "muh chromosomes". I have never denied having xy chromosomes. am I missing something? I am far happier, no longer suicidal, etc post transitioning. according to all the feedback I have received I am also more pleasant to be around.
I was a gay male who transitioned almost 20 years ago, and I never had regrets, and I was always happy with the decision. Living with testosterone in my system frankly would’ve been nasty. I would’ve been unhappy with every day that passed. Like I’m so, so comfortable with myself in my middle age having aged the way I wanted to.
>>41299561>My question is, why do you feel compelled to transition?being a boy made me feel like i was constantly dying and suffocating and unable to live any life cus like i just felt constantly gross and not real bc of it and me brain didn’t work. when i made myself look more like a girl that feeling would go away and i stop compulsively hurting myself.>Would they be happier if they simply didn't transition? naur >If they stayed as a femboy, or as a butch girl, or whatever?i did this up until puberty finally rlly hit. i had to starve myself in order to feel okayish. it didn’t work after a point >Would it be better to just accept the fact you were born with the wrong genes and just exist as a happy, fulfilled, female or male attracted all encompassing third gender?cus id only be able to do this if i was like the most naturally feminine and pretty twink possible. and then i’d just kms once twink death hit>Why throw that out of the window just to run and try to catch an impossible thing? don’t have another choice>Basically, what I am asking is:Why don't trans people just acknowledge their sex and live with it, while acting as they want, be it womanly, manly or something inbetween or absolutely androgynous?too intense. and after a point u can’t femboy/tomboy cope. the whole point is i wanted to prevent male sex characteristics from ever developing and develop in a female pattern. it’s too painful to ever try and just deal with any way else. i wanna just be pretty and have a peaceful life
>>41299561Your entire post sounds wholly misinformed, or you have not even frequented these threads long enough to empathize why the lot of us transition to begin with, as well as witness the despair reppers experience every moment as they themselves try to cope with the exact suggestions you gave.If trannies could just femboy or butch it out, they would, and you’ll even find the spectrum of cis people who are comfortable enough expressing themselves as such. Then you have the rest of us that still experience dysphoria both in body and mind, to extreme lengths where anti-depressants and other medications, or electro shock therapy to gay conversion therapy, have had either no effect or even extremely worse effects on our mental health, promoting suicide further.Being transgender is a pursuit to fit your body closer to your identity, that simply coping with non-HRT meds or just cross dressing, or just repping does not fix. >AGP/AAPPseudoscience blanchardism that is pushed by both malicious actors who are anti-trans as well as misinformed baby-trannies.>Chasing an impossible thingI’m 10 years transitioned and have my entire life respected as the gender i identify and as well reducing my suicide ideations to zero. So i’d say it was far more helpful than repping given what i’ve seen reppers from 30-70 year olds have told me how much they’ve regretted not transitioning.>tranagenderismA term used to reduce the legitimacy of trans folk and their experiences to just delusions with the goal of erasing their existence, push for their early demise or locking them in asylums.>>41299628Media showing trans people in a positive light has helped a lot in more normalizing trans people as well as reducing the amount of reppers who would normally be disgusted by only negative exposure through strict cross dressers or antagonistic role models. This does not go without saying the current media has taken the opportunity to scape goat and demonize trannies.
>>41299561>why do you feel compelled to transition?it's called sex dysphoria, actual discomfort you feel with your natal sex characteristics, not a simple "feeling of not belonging to one's body">Would they be happier if they simply didn't transition?no>And that's a fact that hits most trans people like a train.except it isn't, toupee fallacy>Would it be better to just acceptno, it wouldn't. we'd rather die>can't physically change their sexexcept we can and do
