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people talk a lot about how you shouldn't troon out if you're already too masculine but nobody talks about being too male brained

I've been on HRT for 10 years now and socially transed for 3, still extremely male brained

I'm too scared to talk to anyone IRL over it, I constantly feel that women can tell I'm some kind of skin walker wolf-in-sheep's clothing type, meanwhile men just seem put off and weirded about my masculine interests.

I used to love talking about myself and the things I liked, now I just try to say a little as possible, i feel disgusting.

Honestly I'm considering just killing myself at point, I've tried to make myself more fembrained and it failed repeatedly, I'm becoming extremely isolated and lonely. I'm still a virgin at 28 and I having to interact with people as a personalityhon is making me miserable in every way conceivable...

sorry for incoherent post Im still drunk...
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too malebrained? Solution: Become a transbian
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what makes u male brained? do u at least look a little cvnty? cus like honestly a lot of cis women r cool with trannies even if u don’t pass as long as u have SOMETHING going for u. like irl no one rlly gives a fuck about “malebrain vs fembrain interests”. but im younger than u so idkay
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>>41310918
you’d think guys would date a tranny looking forward to playing video games with them but i’ll never play fps with a bf ever
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>>41310977
massive turn off if theres any risk youre better at the video game men have abysmally fragile egos
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>>41310982
i tryhard and hit flicks it’s over
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>>41310918
I bet you dont give a chance to incels and only pursue chads, fuck you, i hope you get raped by niggers
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>>41310962
I pass mostly, my voice is the only thing that could give me away and even then I've never been sired on the phone and certainly not irl
and that's the problem, women talk to me thinking I'm one of them and then they realise that I'm nothing like them. Nowadays this shame is so severe that I don't even bother trying to get to know anyone, why humiliate myself?

>>41310941
impossible für mich

>>41310977
yeah exactly, I once played chess vs a guy I was dating who claimed to be pretty good and I crushed him, I could tell that it killed the mood even though I tried rescuing It. I'm literally a top 100 in the continent player at my comp game of choice too

>>41311023
If I dated a typical incel, I'd feel bad because it'd basically be a prison gay relationship due to how moidbrained I am.
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>>41311242
>yeah exactly, I once played chess vs a guy I was dating who claimed to be pretty good and I crushed him,
i dont think you're malebrained, just too high iq
get tested or smth
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>>41311242
People LIKE trannies because they have that relatable autism brain
There is a bichud available for YOU and he has the same autism!!
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>>41311242
the prison gay thing is just because of physical characteristics, men love tomboys, men love women, if you are not some immobile sack of lard and are a woman there is always a man out there who will love you for who you are
but unfortunately, trannies are trannies, and most people arent really attracted to them
>>41310918
i honestly recommend training your voice a bit more and maybe try talking to some autistic women or like lesbians or whatever or maybe some autist or bi guy depending on if you're fine with that, not even for a relationship, you need friends as well
anyway sorry, dont kys, you seem like too good of a person for a fate like that
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>>41311242
ok but for what reason? like interests? there’s a lot of women that don’t have typical female interests. doesn’t rlly matter. if u don’t like the stuff ur into and only stay with it cus it’s comfortable u can always change that. if ur just like that then that’s still okay.if u pass anyways then its way clockwise to get insecure about ur interests rather than just being like “yeah idk desu i just never on got into it”.

there’s a lot of nice ppl who will just see that as a quirk and nothing else
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>>41311349
way clockier*

autocorrect
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>>41311018
see I don't even know what flicks are but I'm as tall as taytay so I don't pass ;_;
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>>41311362
it’s when you move your mouse across the screen really fast to hit someone, looks cool mostly not really anything too revolutionary
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>>41310918
Get srs. It made me into a real woman
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>>41310982
Why don't men understand how pathetic that behavior is
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>>41310918
>people talk a lot about how you shouldn't troon out if you're already too masculine but nobody talks about being too male brained
Being too malebrained is arguable way worse than being too masc. If you're masc, but fembrained, the whole tranny thing still kinda makes sense to people because you were a faggot, to normies faggots and trannies are like two sides of the same man-loving coin.
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this is my future i think. sorry nona.
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>>41311452
wdym? How did your life change after? what was you like before?

>>41311465
agreed to some extent

>>41311349
it's less about interests and more about just being unable to feel a shared connection to women, I'm not part of the same intersubjective head space, I feel uncomfortable cracking jokes around women because I don't know how they'll be received, likewise memes that appeal to women (pic related) just strike me as bizarre and uncanny, like how basedjaks probably appear to boomers.

That's why I feel alone, I just can't form authentic close bonds with women because my internal world exists on a different planet from them. Meanwhile men are absolutely disgusted by outlook on life which was shaped by being raised in a single father household, I know its dumb but the messages of people like David Goggins and Nietzsche genuinely appeal to me because I have this "you are not special, the world owes you nothing, everything is zero sum, now get moving" mindset that is typical of 21st century socially outcasted terminally online moids, but considered to be "toxic" by the vast majority of women.

>>41311271
yeah I'm working on my voice, but idk, autistic girs are all bright-eyed wonder kids or furry guro artists, I doubt there's many autistic women who want to debate the computationalist theory of the brain with me or gush over the aesthetics of the chinese cultural revolution or play Stellaris, atleast I haven't met any at all in my times engage in these topics. I don't like LDR either, what's the point?

>>41311260
and where am I supposed to meet them? Don't say this board either because I'm not interested in LDR
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>>41311678
the moid sigma skibbidy grindset is cringe because its based in the false reality that you dont need other people and is isolating and faggy
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>>41311678
lmao saved
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>>41311697
yeah well, its hard to abandon a protective ideology when it's served you well in time of need.

To give a little context, I had no friends growing up because i was repressing my GD + autism, I found that to be incredibly isolating. Additionally my dad was a distant alcoholic who kicked me out when he found my HRT, my mom pretended to be supportive but she eventually staged an intervention where she had a bunch of TERFS publicly shame be and even accuse me of being an AGP (I was 16 at the time), all of my friends have ended up hosting me for reasons I still don't understand but am still upset by.

The end result is that I've become a barren person who can't feel the warmth from others anymore. My entire life I've felt nothing but betrayed or isolated by others and this has reached a zenith after I socially transed.
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>>41311678
as an autistic girl who enjoys guro i'm sorry. but you should give it a chance it's great stuff
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>>41311818
the only time a cis woman or anyone I knew irl for that matter ever managed to disturb me was when they showed me their guro deviant page. I was in my true crime arc at the time too.

I don't get the appeal
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>>41311242
>and that's the problem, women talk to me thinking I'm one of them and then they realise that I'm nothing like them.
Pre-ftm life experience
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>>41312259
Yeah and I'm MTF and no I have no intention of ever detransing I'd sooner 41% than go back to being a man
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>>41310918
well, in the end ppl get to do it their own way and see the results for themselves
I have this view that since everything is contextual, then clean breaks are often powerful, but many ppl like to merge changes and development during transition with a continuation of the previous context in terms of socialization and presentation
it's certainly a choice, and that's the beauty of freedom, you can choose to do it any way you like
I just don't really understand why ppl do it if they don't want that result tho
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>>41312338
that's my problem though. I grew up being a nerdy kid with zero female role models in my life, I gravitate towards STEM where I excelled and found tho only acceptance in my miserable adolescence, I abandoned my dream of doing research science to become a software engineers in order to fund my transition and now I'm surrounded by tech bros all day.

I can't get a clean break, I've already been cast into a mold. Every decision I've made is bound by the decisions I've already made. And there's zero material incentive for me to reverse course, just a vague hope of some psychological ones.

And besides? I don't really want to change my personality. I like the things I do, I just wish they didn't isolate me further.
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malebrain is just misogyny
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>>41310918

I had a cisf ex who was extremely masc personality wise with a boyish fashion sense. She got the same thing you describe with men, they get confused and put off by her when she tries to be one of the boys with her. And of course she never super related with average women but you can still befriend some of them.

Its a delicate social thread to fins common ground with average women when you dont fit the mold but it's definitely there for certain women.

I suggest you try to make nerdy friends in general as they're less put off by these minor details. Connecting over hobbies helps. And the best thing I learned over time was to take it a little less seriously and not care as much that im not the most popular or able to fit in.
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>>41313073
I don't think you should kill yourself then since you have reasons for wanting to make all those choices that you did
some things like presenting as male for 7 years while your body is estrogenized will impact stuff regardless of interests, since it is now wrapped up with perceiving and being perceived as male
like no you can't undo or reverse that but it is a choice you made and stick by
but... it's not the same as the other option, do you see what I mean?
so if you would do it all again the same way there is no point in getting too upset about it ig
like I mean there are probs communities or places that would give you the connection you want, but you might need to accept your situation and open up to that kind of thing more
I don't think there is anyone that can't find some place to connect with other ppl if they really tried, they just might not be the ones you've tried to connect with before
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i am also terminally malebrained, i feel like im just a male that wants to be feminine, but not a woman. i feel like thats been imposed upon me because being a feminine male is a kind of impossible/shameful thing really. you either become a gay man which im not really or you become a woman which im also not really. but im also not at all like a normal male, i feel stranded and like ill never really belong anywhere.
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>>41311465
underappreciated hard truth. that crushing realization that you're not really a women and you don't belong is a different level of alienation even from the average person in the lgbtq community.
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>>41313347
who cares? like why does that matter at all



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