There are many variations of an intersex human, but none will have fully formed and functioning organs of both sexes. Even if the organs of both sexes were formed, they could not both be operational. The dominant sex hormones from one would cancel the other out. Though estrogen is a hormone found in a non-intersex male, which assists in sperm production, the amount of estrogen produced by growing ovarian follicles would halt this production. This is seen in male to female transitions using hormone replacement. Additionally, the dominant hormone produced after ovulation in a female (progesterone) is actually considered a “chemical castration” agent, used in treatment for pedophiles.As for the affect of testosterone on a female cycle, it will not necessarily halt ovulation and menstruation. However, as testosterone is also produced by a non-intersex female, we do know excess androgens (male hormones) cause poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. Poly-cystic ovaries are covered in cysts that were once growing follicles, which failed to mature or break down as they should. Women with severe PCOS rarely ovulate and when they do the ovum and uterine lining produced are not likely to be fertile.In summary, if the female ovaries produced a fertile ovulation, the hormones released would prevent the testicles from functioning and visa versa. Just focusing on the dominant hormones highlight why a human with both male and female organs is termed intersex and not hermaphroditism.The use of the term hermaphroditism was not discontinued because it was “offensive”, it is no longer used because it is biologically inaccurate. Hermaphroditism refers to species that either have both sex organs that function simultaneously, or either may be used at any given time. As this is not the case in humans, the term is no longer applied.In the end it’s all about gametes, or the production of the large and small gamete — eggs and sperm — and their two respective paths of development.
>>41333357>In the end it’s all about gametes, or the production of the large and small gamete — eggs and sperm — and their two respective paths of development.Why though?
>>41333398It’s one of the other. For us, anyway. No true hermaphrodites in humans exist.
>>41333412It's not one or the other. Many people produce none at all and there are even rare cases where ambiguous gametes are produced.
>>41333412Even if it was one or the other, you have still arbitrarily selected one sex characteristic of many to be the sole factor in your definition for no objective reason. I could just as easily say that sex is exclusively determined by digit ratio and it would be just as objective
>>41333357There are also cases where both ovulation and spermatogenesis occur in the same individual. So your claim that two sets of reproductive organs can't be functional simultaneously is just wrong. This study even finds cases of autofertility in mammals, though its not yet been documented in humans:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28282768/
>>41333426>>41333443>>41333550Oh lord the desperation
>>41333641>IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER, IT'S BINARY 100% OF THE TIME NO MATTER WHAT>except when it's not though, that doesn't count
There is no hypothetical third gamete. By default there are only two sexes/genders. It’s irrelevant if a human hermaphrodite is capable of impregnating themselves. The fact is: a hybrid is just a hybrid.
>>41333641great rebuttal
>>41333705There is no hypothetical yellow apple. By default there are only two apple colors, red and green.It’s irrelevant if an apple tree is capable of growing yellow apples. The fact is: a hybrid is just a hybrid.
>>41333715You can’t be this sour of an apple.
>>41333722There are no sour apples. Apples are either sweet or underripe
>>41333715There actually are yellow apples thobeit
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>>41333550As far as we can tell the conditions that might allow for this are pretty spectacularly rare. But there are also enough case reports of ovotesticular syndrome being diagnosed in adults for me to doubt we have a real handle on its prevalence.And on the other hand I feel like the stars would have to align for us to actually detect autofertilization in humans. If you have sex getting pregnant isn't exactly suspicious, so you'd have to do paternity (maternity?) testing on the offspring. Which means you have to know about, and be able to test for, the genome that produced the sperm.There was a case of a woman who almost went to prison for fraud when she failed a maternity test. It took repeated tests to find the genome she passed on to her children.Biology is fucking crazy and I'd put nothing past it.
>>41333357Sex actually has medical, legal and cultural interpretation. The reproductive theory is just one definition of sex that is favored by conservatives because they think it gives rhetorical weight to arguments that trans and nonbinary identities are illegitimate.For an example of how the reproductive theory of sex fails you need only to look at the fact that CAIS individuals are seed as female and assigned female at birth and actually identify as female at higher rates than AFAB XX individuals, obviously because their brains can't respond to androgens. So while their bodies have little or no capability of producing gametes and only ever produce sperm if they produce any (e.g. in PAIS individuals) they have a medical and legal sex of female and are perceived that way.The reproductive theory of sex does not explain the sex of all indiciduals. along with intersex/DSD people it excludes trans people and also legally recognized sex changes and legal and culturally recognized third gender categories. The observation that most people produce easily and sperm and that this aligns with their perceived gender identity and sex assigned at birth is redundant, no one is saying that is not true for ~98% of people.
