feel free to post your own>if you can't pass pre HRT, you won't pass with HRT>an astronomically low percentage of trannies actually pass. The vast majority of "passers" just look feminine enough that people can tell they're trans and not crossdressing. >if you are male brained (I.e you have a masculine internal symbols) then you will never be able to assimilate and therefore never pass. >it's impossible to become fembrained if you were not feminine as a child. >zoomer MTF culture celebrates being a STD ridden drug addict who works in retail/sex industry, and demonizes any attempt to make the system work for you>most trannies live lives that are closer to regular gay men than cis women.>banning trannies from women's bathrooms is ultimately a good thing because the vast majority of trannies are opticnvke rapehon.>puppy girls and similar sub-identities are just 21st century sissies, and will be viewed with the same contempt in time.
>>41337350>and will be viewed with the same contempt in time.that time being in zero seconds
>>41337350I agree with the second half but disagree with the first 4
oh how could I forget the highest yield trvitnvke of them all? >being trans is a deformity equivalent in unattractiveness to dwarfism or being a hunchback>>41337420The first two are controversial sure but idk, I don't see how a male brained MTF can become fembrained given that their life and all experiences in said life are a direct continuation from a male upbringing starting point.
>>41337350>banning trannies from women's bathrooms is ultimately a good thing because the vast majority of trannies are opticnvke rapehon.true, passoids will just keep going to the womens bathroom no problem so it will just fuck over hons which ultimately is a good thing.
>>41337350Majority of these are trvkes but a few questions/corrections>wtf are "internal symbols?">some people become feminine at puberty and are forced to repress it, they can understand repress and become decently break.>actualy what will happen is that sissies will eventually be seen as based and all identities will be accepted.A lot of these are Trvkes though.
the ultimate inconvenient truth is that 4tran makes u a malebrained self destructive hon………………….
>>41337350>kuromi hons are for my melody passers
>>41337654>internal symbolsbasically how you frame objects and events in your head, for example, a male brained person might frame their loneliness as a good thing it reminds them of a ascetic priest or a lone wolf, whereas a fembrained person would have an entirely different set of "symbols" and "archetypes" in their mind and therefore be unable to conceive this particular impression.This is what being fembrained or male brained fundamentally boils down to imo, and it completely prevents male brained and fembrained people from being an the same mental wavelength unless they're such good friends that they start appropriating each other's symbols. Idk this is all schizo babble I conjured up while having a mental breakdown about being terminally male brained a few weeks ago. >>41337655unironically a trvke, everyone here is living a world of male symbols.
>>41337663>kuromi only appeals to me because I am terminally male brained>fembrained tranners all like my melody instead
>>41337655many online communities do to some extentthat said, even compared to 4chan related communities, coming back here is a huge whiplash of male vibes
>>41337684You don't sound particularly malebrained you type like a scatterbrained woman into woo woo.By this symbols idea i am extremely fembrained though so I actually like your idea. Except fembrained and malebraiend is about behaviors not internal symbols so it's probably crap.Don't have breakdowns about troon stuff cis, classic case of overthinking.
>>41337698I got a kuromi travel pillow but only cos they didn't have a mymelo one, but I got a mymelo pen recently so it all balances out
>>41337350>>if you can't pass pre HRT, you won't pass with HRTi know stealthers for whom this was not the case>an astronomically low percentage of trannies actually pass. The vast majority of "passers" just look feminine enough that people can tell they're trans and not crossdressing. amend it to uncertainty about if theyre trans or just really unfortunate and ill agree>if you are male brained (I.e you have a masculine internal symbols) then you will never be able to assimilate and therefore never pass. the symbolic order is only part of passing mentally, but youre right. this is why its easier to pass if you were a straight boy pre-hrt, because youre still internally straight and never internalised being gay.>it's impossible to become fembrained if you were not feminine as a child. this is only part true. if you internalised being a feminine gay man for any length of time then a part of you will never leave it.>zoomer MTF culture celebrates being a STD ridden drug addict who works in retail/sex industry, and demonizes any attempt to make the system work for youthis is very obviously circumstantial>most trannies live lives that are closer to regular gay men than cis women.not really, trannies become a unique neither entity which fails to be identifiable as either.>banning trannies from women's bathrooms is ultimately a good thing because the vast majority of trannies are opticnvke rapehon.you are retarded if you think this but i do like how it forces disassociation from heterosexual culture so i dont mind the bathroom ban in itself>puppy girls and similar sub-identities are just 21st century sissies, and will be viewed with the same contempt in time.AGP culture is always the same, will never change, and enjoys a steady level of contempt
>>41337705The reason why I abstract things to the level of internal symbols is because it's impossible to authentically embrace feminine behaviours without having something to link these behaviours to in your "mental spiderweb"When I try doing a fembrained behaviour, it's a mere imitation, I'm performing a behaviour without the corresponding mental headspace, it feel confusing and difficult. When do a masculine behaviour, I can get in character. I can imagine myself as the male rage antivillain when I'm having a bad day, the 20th century European statesman when I read the news on the bus, or the esoteric magician when I stay up all night working on a technical project.Idk, a big part of this is probably just that I don't know what feminine archetypes are available for me to adopt. I really wish I had more more female role models for things I enjoyed doing, which just goes to show how male brained my hobbies are in general too. (chicken and egg?)
>>41337350>>if you can't pass pre HRT, you won't pass with HRTtrue only in that hrt doesn't do everything for you. you need to have female mannerisms, a feminine gait, get laser and voice train at least. hrt is only a small (but essential) part of the battle. and itDOES help you pass more, if you're smart with how you gain/lose weight
>>41337706I think I'm going to pick up a mymelo pillow I've been eying recently, might motivate me to finish renovating my room so I have a nice place to display it
>>41337805aww I hope you do anon, and then come back and show me tbqh
>>41337814Je veux te violer en t'appellant maman :3 t'es la plus mignonne des petites putes de 4chin, je suis sur que tu veux sucer ma bite recouverte de smegma hehehe :3
>>41337350>that nobody here acknowledges>posts nothing but sentiments that are reiterated literally hundreds of times per day on this boardIt's like when chuddies claim you aren't allowed to talk about immigration or race and crime when they're literally two of the most discussed topics ever.
>>41337949Idk every time I post about fembrained vs malebrain stuff I get ignored or called stupid and brainwormedalso I've never seen anyone point out the degradation of zoomer MTF culture, even if people seem aware the latest generation of trannies are extremely openly AGAMP, promiscuous and separatist compared to their assimilationist and behaviourally conservative millennial counterparts.the rest is mostly padding though, they're last gen trvkes.
>>41337350i have never met a trans woman that actually passesif she does momentarily pass to me visually, the moment she speaks, it is over. i have not met a single one who i found out or they told me they were trans later that i didn't already know/suspect was trans.
>>41338458i have been remarking that nu-trans MTF, is extremely hypersexual and about being degraded/abused in some manner that seems to go alongside shallow ideas about "women are submissive rape slaves, and thats what i am" -- like their identity is more porn/fetish/loneliness/attention via shock or extremism driven than the trans women that got into it pre 2020.
>>41338517yeah. and i see a lot of "omg my estrogen makes me so dumb >////<" and other extremely gross misogynistic shit
>>41338534the pedophilic stuff is also weirdly prevalent in MTF circles but everyone cries this is transphobic fake news made up by terfsits not. the MTF community has a pedophilia problem, particularly involving little girls. the terfs did not invent this.
>>41337350>>if you can't pass pre HRT, you won't pass with HRTI malefailed rarely prehrt, I pass 80% of time time now even with my shitty voice, and yes, people are surprised when they learn about it.
>>41338542femboys and many tucutes are autopedophillic, true
>>41338546i would clock you in under 5 minutes
>>41338557obviously, considering you know she's trans and you're on the tranny board. retard.
>>41338557I think trans people can easily clock me.
>>41338554i said MTF, not femboys or "tucutes"i do not encounter femboys with fantasies involving the rape, torture, and sexual servitude of little girls. thats a troon thing. trans women fetishize sexual abuse of little girls as a community staple that i have not encountered so consistently anywhere.
>>41338517Because sometimes the only way to deal with the endless attacks is to make it a joke.Parents didn't stop abusing their kids who were trans, society didn't stop rejecting kids who were trans. When you stop using sexuality as a basis to invalidate my identity I'll stop trolling you by posting that I'm a sissy failmale fetishist. Which you believe because you are autistic and primed to take 4chan posts as 100% fact when they never have been
>>41338563schizophrenic spotted
>>41338493Toupee fallacy. If a trans person passed and didn't out themselves, ypu wouldn't know. Trans people have lived stealth within society for many decades.
>>41337350i think i have one.>people after a specific age (around 24) shouldn't transition because their odds of passing are basically nullidk if this is actually unpopular or not, but i know when someone comes here crying about how they didn't troon at a young enough age and post the most over-tier bodies ever, people here are just gonna be like>just manmode forever lol>take your meds and hrtrepwhat do people think it's gonna happen? that the person is actually just gonna take hrt and never tell anybody? it will reach a point where the troon will just get tired and honmode all the way.the more hons we have, the more rights trannies lose. for a board that loves bitching about "hugboxxing" this place sure isn't much more honest than your average cis woman complimenting you. sometimes it's actually fucking over and i believe people should be honest if you crossed that line.>inb4 le cissoids hate us anyways!!!they hate you because when they think of a tranny, they think of a John McMale (47) who trooned out and openly calls himself a sissy, or some hon who didn't really do anything wrong except be really fucking ugly. it's all about looks and perception. if every tranny turned into a gigapassoid and acted like who they claim to be, 90% of transphobes (passive types who just hate da troons because they don't get it) would vanish overnight.t. 19yr old repper who will never troon because i know it's over and i refuse to be a hon
>>41338458That's not degredation, it's the removal of self censorship and sexual repression. It's flourishing. Conformity is retarded bullshit and conformist mainstream society will just try to ban trannies no matter how conservative they act.
take your HRT retard
>>41338572i think 30+ at the least is too late. 24 to 29 you can get away with it IF you were already a very effeminate guy. but putting a concrete age on that kind of thing is stupid anyway. there are yougshits who don't pass and lateshits who do
>>41338564cope>>41338570even harder copeevery single person that hid it and revealed it later was not a surprise. usually im having to refrain from telling them i know before they say it. you guys do NOT act like cis women; i can clock people i've never seen in fucking TEXT even in the same way. you don't look, sound, or act like women and my little autistic brain notices asap.
>>41338564What the fuck are you on about rapehon shit nut
>>41337350First worlders are deranged
>>41338578Don't you actually want to be a woman though? Not a transwoman but a (transgender) woman.Because this lifestyle is completely and utterly incompatible with the most liberal conception of social womanhood.
>>41338583yeah the age was just an average of when the average guy goes through total twink death and actually loses all hope of passing. some get it earlier (me), some get it later.in the end, even trooning early can't save you. it's all about genetics and how quickly you develop.24 is a good cutoff for that imo, most men aren't feminine enough to be able to troon after 26 and pass, their bones are usually just too male or they're just too malebrained to learn to play a new social role. obviously there's exceptions but you get the gist
>>41338566nigga im old and even one of the first "trans women" i was friends with in 2009 went on to sexually abuse one of my actual female friends and their dog while constantly detailing to all of us "dreams" they had in which they were a little girl being sexually abused; they were DEFINITELY dreams and not fetishistic fanfiction btw. definitely. stopped talking to them and within 5 years their balding mugshot became available on police websites after assaulting a woman. in the 16 years since that person, i have seen their behavior reflected as a pattern across countless MTF individuals and the community at large. the MTF community loves to see a loli get raped to the point of bleeding with a baseball bat more than any other. what a surprise a bunch of lonely jealous men fetishize the most depraved forms of female abuse. moids can't act normal about women, even when they think they are one.
>>41338637None of you pass.I can pick up on the patterns that go along with the way a woman perceives herself as actually a woman, even in an FTM. MTFs lack this and never pass because of it. Same for FTMs--they lack some particular signal that goes along with "I know I am a male" and never actually act like/pattern code for male as a result.
>>41338671lol
>>41338677Laugh all you want.There is a particular shame/fear or something that real women carry regarding being a woman that is different to the way trans women express "being a woman". The way they approach and speak about womanhood is completely different due to this. Even FTMs who "pass" still exhibit this "authentic woman" flag. The "internal symbols" thing OP mentioned might be a similar thing.
>>41338693could it be what you're talking about is just growing up as a female and having multiple unspoken social rules and ways of perception drilled into you at a young age?or is this like some esoteric "women have female souls" that can't be proven or disproven
>>41338705It is a concept of self thing, I am pretty sure.I think the only way to remove it would be to do like they used to recommend for intersex kids; NEVER let the intersex kid now they aren't female. Otherwise their sense of self/identity is altered.
>>41338625I am a woman and I pass better than the bitter seething fags replying to me. I have total confidence in myself and so my mind is free to consider all possibilities, I also accept everyone's identities as a matter of principle. Passing and socially assimilating as a woman doesn't mean you have to completely abando higher level awareness and embrace every aspect of patriarchal capitalist society.All of the sexual shaming of trans women is literally just misogyny + blame shifting. Stigmatism of effeminate males and women, repackaged as if it's an insightful new critique. What's most tragic about posters like these >>41338590 >>41338586 is that they're the primary victims of the senseless hate they spew on a daily basis and that's why substance abuse, man moding and spiraling is so common among chronically online sexually repressed hons.>>41338647You're old, you're insane, you're probably making this up, idk what the hell you mean about the baseball bad but dude if you want to talk about crime statistics MtFs are safer than the average cishet person lol.>>41338671I actually do pass socially/behaviorally most of all, also looks wise. Even if you did clock me you would be miserable being aware at how well I pass as female. I've often caused other trans people to have suicidal dysphoria after meeting me because I'm so naturally feminine and they're not. I can't imagine what effect this would have on repperfags and cuckservatives.
>>41338871>reddit spacing>I am a woman and I pass better than the bitter seething fags replying to me. I have total confidence in myself.ok hon
>>41338871biggest seethingest cope post in the whole threadwritten with the syntax and vocabulary choices of a moid, too
>>41338871you will never pass as a female
>>41338871>if you want to talk about crime statistics MtFs are safer than the average cishet person lol.keep dreaming, rapehon men who hyperfixate on their natural sexual counterpart (women) are hypersexual lunatics, no one besides coping trannies need data to understand this. men obsess over and stalk and get off to women. the more obsessed with women an incel becomes, the more abusive and sexually predatory he becomes. women live in your mind rent free and it keeps you in a constant state of arousal that turns you horny, stupid, and more likely to be driven to sex crimes because all he thinks about is sex.
>>41338939>xe doesn't know
>>41338939this is the type of shit that's genuinely ropefuel for those of us who aren't any of this. gl convincing people that we're real with "statistics" like this ;-;
>>41339075good. you should be fed ropefuel until you rope
>>41339075that "person" wants you to feel bad. theyll post bad faith charts they found on kiwifarms or mumsnet or some shit without understanding or wanting to understand nuance because xey have nothing better to do with xeir timethan go on the anime website's gay person board and try to make trannies upset. this is because they''re sane and we're insane, of course
>>41339114im a postgenderist and believe trannies are a symptom of a greater disease, faggot. you are like mislead, ignorant pawns oblivious to the war they're being used in and the lies they're being fed/living to me.
>>41339128ok :)
>>41339130intersex people feel it harder than any of you troons will ever know.you're all oblivious to that postgender ideals have been included in intersex rights frameworks (IE: the malta declaration) since at least 2013 as well. you think it's terf shit instead of that those most affected by sexism (women, intersex) are the ones most desperate to destroy the system instead of fetishistically revel in the exciting fantasy larps it enables. >To ensure that sex or gender classifications are amendable through a simple administrative procedure at the request of the individuals concerned. All adults and capable minors should be able to choose between female (F), male (M), non-binary or multiple options. In the future, as with race or religion, sex or gender should not be a category on birth certificates or identification documents for anybody.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_declaration_(International_Intersex_Forum)
>>41339147ok :)
>>41337350I could've passed pre-HRT when I was 25 (and in fact a friend I showed a photo to says I looked like a butch lesbian) but I waited a full nother decade to transition.Somehow I still got gendered female even before hormones occasionally, but there's no way I was actually passing. Maybe as a woman with a severe hormonal disorder. That said, no way I would've passed as male either with all this trans awareness going around. Basically assigned pooner at birth.To be completely fair my voice never dropped and I'm short AF and that combo biases people a lot.Estrogen caused extreme malefailing within about 8 months, and by about a year I was passing enough that people got incredulous when I showed them my man ID.By around 3 years I was so passing that even with an updated photo my male name and sex marker ID was no longer believable. I can no longer effectively out myself as trans. It doesn't stick or they think I'm a zero effort FTM or a theyfab.All that said medical science is still actively trying to figure out how the fuck that happened.>>41338572>>41338583I transitioned a couple months before turning 36 and I turned out fine. Didn't even need FFS!I feel like that is extremely unlikely though.I've always looked crazy young compared to my actual age though.>>41339130Do you shit up every thread? Why?
>>41339295>Do you shit up every thread? Why?by not giving that piece of shit the time of day i'm shitting up the thread?
>>41339320Shit sorry! Replied to the wrong person :(I meant >>41339147
>>41339326OH. lmao. well let me answer for them: yes. again, imagine that being what you do with your limited time on earth
>>41337925sacre bleu! t'es grave?!? qui es tu?? mdr >>41338458>>41338517>>41338534>>41338578fascinating tbqhbut aren't younger ppl online more conformist now?????
>>41337350Being gay is a trauma response to being abused as a child >>41339469
I was gonna respond tot his but realized this was either a chud who is in way too deep for troll posting, a gigasissy, or a faggot.
>>41337350>tall masculine man before hrt>start HRT>never malefail>just look like a normal man but with gyno now:/ in my next life perhaps
>>41339493What causes people to have an irrepressible need to repeat this tired claim over and over again on 4chan? Will science ever know?
>>41337350This is all mostly false and it’s crazy that y’all believe this regarded shit lmao this is why all of you here are so cooked ngmis
>>41339506But then there are posters like you with that name so OP is forgiven.
>>41339735rewrite this in english pls
>>41337663keroppi is the only sanrio little crature i knowi had blankie of him when i was little
>>41339777>But then there are posters like you with that name so OP is forgiven.But then there are posters like you with that name so OP is forgiven.There now it's in English.
>>41339915He meant write it in ESLish. It's too difficult to parse if it's not like his textbook sentence patterns.
>>41339915thats not english what are you even trying to say
>>41339506omfg I Accidentally deleted a massive postAnyway no I'm a 10 year HRT tranny, I'm super malebrained though, not in a giga sissy way bit more like a chud incel wayI tried making myself more fembrained but I've failed, I like masculine hobbies too much to ever peek into the female intersubjective consciousness, let alone actively partake in and contribute to it.this causes me a huge deal of shame and self loathing as I've essentially realised that completing my transition requires cutting off a huge port of myself that otherwise serves me well. I'm so ashamed that I've essentially become terrified of being authentic around people in non anonymous environments, which has worsened my already bad avoidancethe stuff about passing is a straight trvke, everyone says I giga pass in passgen but I'm 99%everyone can tell irl, if not from my fare or body then my personality, how many women do you see reading the economist every morning or working in tech, even when I do typically feminine stuff like cosploy I cosplay as historical figures like Otto von Bismarck, That's how comically moidbrained I amIdk though the internal symbols model is promising, I hope that by feminizing my internal symbols/finding feminine counter parts, I can change my own internal symbolic language and become more fembrained that way without sacrificing the parts of my personality that I care aboutSorry about the retarded tourists in this thread, I'm sad they're shitting up this already bad thread ;_;
>>41340075Your fortuitous moniker absolves OP of sin
>>41339384I feel like there's a growing gift that mirrors the growing polarisation in American politics, right wing zoomers are more conformist than in the past, left wing zoomers (of which 99% zoomer trannies are) are super deviant, to the point where they make the y2k generation look like a bunch of mild mannered geriatrics alreadyjust look at the castration movie stuff that's been posting here, it seems insane to me even though I'm a "as long as it involves consent, it's fine" type.
>>41339902keroppi is super cute ngl>>41340303oh.. but are they different in their deviancy or is that also a form of conformism?I feel like millennials and zillenials were the only ones that really ever had a chance to break free, and maybe the only ones that have or will for hundreds of yearsbut that's mostly cos boomers had no clue how the internet worked and it was a wild frontier for 10-15 yearsnow the algorithm tells ppl how to be different like all the other different ppl to maximize engagement and profits tbqh
>>41340895yeah the "deviant" next gen are all united by shared behaviours, they're only deviant towards mainstream societyalthough I'm a zillennial so it's hard to contrast this level of deviancy with those prior generations, everyone says kids in the 60s and 70s were wild so maybe I'm just acting like a typical boomer lmaobut you raise a good point about the influence of the internet, surely having unrestrained access to the web in its infancy would lead to the apparent social acceleration that we are witnessing now, I mean after all, faith in religion has absolutely shattered across the entire western world, in my country it was 80% when i was born, now it's <20%...anyway to sum it up I think this deviancy is actually just social hyperacceleration that has been brought about by social media. I'm sure someone tried to ban cafes at one point because people would talk about political and social ideas too much in them, the internet is that on steroids desu
>>41341314unrestrained access to early internet led a lot of ppl to question the nature of their reality and what they had been told when they were youngerlike u have to imagine that previously a lot of ppl didn't know stuff but pretended they did and then suddenly you could learn anythingit took boomers at least 20 years before they got full control over it, but in the meantime the kids of those times really diverged a lot from society as a wholeI would even say that current deviancy is merely the severe memefication and monetization of olden days internet shock posts
>>41337350>>zoomer MTF culture celebrates being a STD ridden drug addict who works in retail/sex industry, and demonizes any attempt to make the system work for youthis is why i gave up trying to make friends with other trannies, like they don't even know how to be friends they just want to fuck you. at least with my cissie friends we can like, just hang out, even if its mostly surface level.
