If you weren’t trans as a kid and only got “dysphoria” as an adultSimple
>>41378840getting dysphoria at any age over 18 sounds like hell, why would it take you that long to notice something is wrong?
>>41378840i was just repping hard and was a femboy as a teen to cope and be more socially acceptable
>>41378840trvket.someone who got "dysphoria" at 20
>>41378868Femboy is transcope but yeah wtf
>>41378872Pure dude
>>41378859That’s because it’s not realYou can’t “get” dydphoria at 18 that’s a cope for being autistic or porn brained or just socially illBut I do you don’t have visceral gender dysphoria at the age of 9 you are faketrans imo
>>41378840Ya like what is 70 the new 10 or somethiing?
>>41378840i got dysphoria at like 12. maybe younger i don't really remember. is that young enough for you?
>>41379127I guess that qualifies as trutrans sure
>>41379160thanks. im glad i made the cut. i can hardly remember my childhood i was mostly just alone and didn't have any friends or do any activities i just watched tv and played pokemon and animal crossing by myself and felt my brain leaking out the back of my head.im so glad that i am trutrans
>>41378840true
>>41379173Sounds like you suffered
>>41378840faketrannies don't even pretend to have dysphoria nowadays. they just try to redefine words and then aggressively yell "QUIT GATEKEEPING!!!!!" at you in a booming male voice
i mean i started shaving my legs when i was 12 and started being gay as fuck but i just wanted to be a femboy. if i had known this is where id end up i would have tried so hard to be straight
>>41379225i did
I didnt know i was a girl when i was a kid. Felt more like an alien trapped in a human's body
>>41378949>if you're not transed while you're a fresh yolk you're yucky! too old!!!!average discord groomer
>>41378949What if you did have gender dysphoria at 9 but it was pretty mild
>>41379472Way to miss the point
>>41379474Well that’s not a thing
>>41378859cuz puberty didn't hit that hard? cuz u grew up being taught femininity was forbidden basically?
>>41379280Being gay isn’t the same yeah sounds like you are fake
>>41379545the second one just doesn't make sense at all
>>41379545Femininity=\=being a trans womanYou’d know that if you weren’t an over correcting hon
>>41379539What do you mean it's not a thing? Different intensities of dysphoria?
>>41379563That’s not realYou either feel actual gender dysphoris or you are socially contaminated or worse
>>41379600What separates "actual" gender dysphoria from "fake" gender dysphoria?
>>41378840RIGHT like where was all that dysphoria when you were younger? Are you telling me you all of a sudden one day developed dysphoria after being ok with being a man for 40 years?(Example)
>>41378840I had dysphoria at age 8+ and lived with it until I transitioned at 20
>>41379608Your brain is female and your body as a male should disgust you intensely to the point of suicide/depressionIf you didn’t feel like this since you were young then it’s not gender dusphoria
>>41379616Yep that’s not a real thingYou don’t suddenly develop dusphoria as a men in his 20
>>41379618Fair
if u put any other mental disorder here this would sound as clearly ridiculous as it is
>>41379642Gender dysphoria has basis in biology(incongruent brain)
>>41378840No one is trans as a kid you were groomed
>>41379649a lot of mental disorders do, a mix between genetic predisposition exacerbated by environmental factors
>>41379629Exactly. The only exception is when you can't transition due to environment ya know. Like I had dysphoria early AF but grew up in rural gay bashing country. I had to save up enough to move before I could transition. After 25 though no one should transition
>>41379653WrongI’m not talking about being trans as a kid I’m saying gender dysphoria develops when you are young and even earlier as your brain doesn’t much your body
>>41379671Children under the age of 35 years of age are not mature enough to make these kinds of decisions
>>41379671I agreeIf you don’t transition when you gain independence and “don’t know if you are trans or not” by the that time then are you even dysphoric?
>>41378840I had dysphoria pre-puberty but successfully repressed into my 30's when it got to be too much, what about me?
>>41379737Idk dudeHow do you repress? Sounds like you are coping about those pre-puberty feelings being dysphoria
>>41378840nope, puburty is when you should know. all fags can troon tho. msm is nasty and anyone should be allowed out of it.
>>41379696Lol you're stupid.
>>41379741I dint disagree desu but I think puberty is the final realisation but the feeling is probably present earlier in life. My point is you dont and can’t have the same realisation in your fucking 30s
>>41379740Religion, biology autism, chud ideology. It eventually wormed its way through all of that. Honestly I think a lot of you really have no idea how effective growing up in a fundie church with fundie parents is at breaking a kid's brain, the thought that "Jesus hates you" or "You're going to burn in hell forever" as a small child are really emotionally devastating and scary, and by the time you're older and more rational you've more deeply integrated the religion into your mindset and personality and it's no longer easy to just think yourself out.
>>41379725Yeah, like I tried when I was a kid but I'm from a Mormon family so you know how that went. Luckily I still pass but if I had waited any longer I probs wouldn't have. After 25 most people won't pass without tons of surgery though
>>41379759Idk maybe you did repress all the way but if so it sounds like you were super depressed all the time
>>41379772>it sounds like you were super depressed all the timeI was and I am. Repping is miserable, don't do it.
>>41379764It doesn’t matter if they don’t pass as they aren’t women anyway
>>41379781FairI have some doubts but fair
>>41379782Who hurt you so much that you gotta come on here and be the most boring chud ever. Like at least be creative
>>41379789I understand it's hard to get for people who aren't or haven't been in a similar situation. It's just, these weren't ambiguous feelings, it started with mentally concluding that "I'm a girl inside" almost verbatim at a very young age and carrying that inside forward. Never stopped thinking about it, hating puberty while wishing I'd somehow turn into or wake up as a girl, getting really excited at every chance to present as or engage in something I felt was feminine or female-coded. I get that there are people who are just generally depressed or unhappy with their body because they're ugly or short or whatever and use dysphoria as an excuse/cope, but for me it really did just start with a female identity and unhappiness in this derived from increasingly obvious incongruence between my body and life and that identity.
>>41379751true. past teens is all faketrans.
>>41378840idc if im not trutrans, im still better
>>41378840had dysphoria ever since 10 and never went away so i started just before turning 19 and couldnt be happier
>>41379847You misunderstandNot all who claim they are trans, arePeople discovering their transness ad adults aren’t. Simple
>>41379864Fair
>>41379848Good for you for being ok now anon
>>41379852P much
>>41379858You aren’t female please don’t attempt to gasl
>>41379932No I totally agree, I made that point like 3 comments ago lol.
>>41378859I'm not sure if I'm actually dysphoric but the basic reason would be that I had a million other problems and also I was totally unaware that anyone ever felt those kinds of feelings and didn't want to be a faggot
>>41378859Perspective and perception affect a lot of things in our lives. Looking back my dysphoria is very clear through my teenage and pre teen years but I had no idea what I was going through and accepted my suffering as common and deserved
>>41378859I didn't even know trooning out was a thing when I was 18, always wanted to be a woman but didn't think you could even do anything about it.
thank you anon. i'll read this thread every time the feelings get bad. i'm not like them and i never was or will be, it's too late, i'll never be happy, i'm sorry for tainting the world with my retardation, i dont deserve anything, i don't deserve to be human, i don't deserve to exist
Meh maybe ! I have to admit that’s some smart gatekeeping for trutrans and what not, but like if someone is genuinely unhappy about their gender as an adult they have the right to change it if they want to childhood dysphoria or into adulthood.
>>41382531You should be sorry, good
>>41378859I was a retarded egg, my bad. Ive been on hrt for 7 years now and im never stopping
>>41378840I had a psychotic episode at 19, then got stuck being a trans woman forever.
>>41378840This is trash, and everyone knows it.
>>41382531take yer fookin meds and be a faggot like the rest of us
>>41382984Does the S mean Syndrome or sitter? Iykyk.
>>41378840You literally can't stop me tho and I'm feeling better so fuck you honestly
>>41382696Hard disagreePeople can take meds and play pretend but fact is if u weren’t a woman you don’t suddenly decide to be safe oneSo you either experienced gd as a kid or you keep lying to yourself
>>41382531That’s the pointYeah as the other anon said you can beeafaggot just don’t call yourself a trans woman.
If I call yourself a trans woman you're beyond fake desu. You're either a fag if you don't pass or a woman if you pass.Trans is not an identity it's the act of transitioning.
>>41383167I can see thatMy point being you have to have had the “I’m a woman” feeling since childhood or at least onset pubertyOtherwise you arent anything
>>41383188kek do you think I remember anything from childhood or puberty there was trauma that happened wayyy before that that put me into an eternal haze.you do not see how much worse it can get and I envy you for that honestly
>>41383205Cases like yours are muddy but what can I sayMaybe you are fine. Maybe trooning out is just depression and trauma response for youGood luck
>>41383238>Cases like yours are muddyEverything is muddy! The notion that things happen in predictable patterns is completely made up and enforced by evolution because thinking this way is what increases chances of survival.The universe itself tho does not behave according to such rules. As with everything it is simply a mere approximation amalgamated by the human mind in an effort to stay alive!(You) do not know truth at all and will never know truth, (You) are a mere hallucination of your own biology.
>>41378840i had dysphoria as a kid i just ignored it until i was 23 and couldnt anymore and regret it so much that if i ever get a time machine and can go back in time to see my younger self id bash his fucking head in
>>41383308Good cope but w/ePoint still stands you can’t suddenly become a woman. Memory or no h memory.Maybe if we studied your brain we’d find a female one maybe notIdk how anyone can live their whole life without a hint of being a woman though. That’s the catch
It is simply connected to an apathy of sexual identity. I was always just me and didn't feel any attachment to womanhood or manhood.But due to the way I was born I was defaulted into manhood and struggled immensely with living up to it.By the time I was ten I found myself surrounded by female friends, attracted to males, wearing jewelry and being admittedly a bit weaker both physically and mentally than other males around me, yet I did not associate this with being a woman, I was simply a weird faggot.Only much later in my 20s did I realize that if I COULD pass as a woman I would have a much easier time being myself and having people around me understand better who I am. THAT is why I transitioned.
>>41378840I came out at 12-13 (I don't want to do the exact math right now), but I genuinely don't believe I had a "gender identity" as a child beyond some sense of alienation from other female children and idle thoughts that a sex change surgery may have been performed on me as a baby
>>41383405>and being admittedly a bit weaker both physically and mentally than other males around meThis reads like mef or some sort of male superiority crapWeird dude
>>41383416Sounds like you did if you came out that young Also you describe gender dysphoria lolFtm grnerall
>>41383473Ftms generally do this things much easier and repress way less Not surprised
>>41383468of course being called a weak faggot, never being trusted with responsibilities and being coddled by everyone around me is immensely arousing to me, retard (it is not).
>>41383487I just don’t know why you worded it like that or why you think it is relevant to your gender identity
>>41379545that's so retarded. it was forbidden for me and i still did it and took the beating. pretending to be masculine was the worse alternative regardless of which one was allowed
>>41378840Even doe I remember crying about not being a girl when I was a kid I just didnt know what to make of it and tried not to think about it and my parents were evil so I couldn't talk to them and internet access was hard to come by
>>41383473The latter thoughts weren't with distress, it was more of a "maybe that's why I don't fit in" thought. I was relatively chill about the whole thing. I don't count coming out at 12-13 as true childhood gender dysphoria as I was already essentially done puberty at that point, so it was over secondary sex characteristics as opposed to some sort of lifelong knowledge of gender.
>>41383493because, lets face that facts, women are allowed to be more emotional than men without everyone making fun of them - and I got tired of everyone making fun of me for being emotional.
>>41383514Get over it
>>41382984>t. seething boomerhon
>>41383535yeah I did and I'm much better off now than I was before
>>41378840Lacking theory of mind, ngmi.
>>41382992>>41383140i embraced faggotry around 18 and it was great and liberating. but i feel the truest expression of myself is to be as feminine as possible. being seen as and called a woman is the logical endpoint to that and what i strive for nowadays. it is idealist, and i will probably never reach that point, but i want to get as close as i possibly can.
>>41378840if you're not trans possessing the features of the opposite gender will give you cis dysphorialacking dysphoria can be evidence you're transchildren lack sexual dimorphism that causes strong dysphoria, social dysphoria is far harder to realize
>>41383473female social oppression is far more focused on pretty privilege than on strict gender rolesthis is also how a lot of trans men get it in their head that if pretty = girl then ugly = male and actively uglify themselveson the flipside a lot come to value prettiness in its own right and don't want to give that up in transition
Kids shoupd not be allowed to transition. Sure they might be better looking but it leads to worse mental health outcomes and higher suicide rates than waiting until later.
>>41385423are you retarded? that claim doesn't even make logical sense, let alone have any evidence to support it.
>>41385446Just sharing my opinion and you are all the proof I need is. You can prove me wrong by becoming a good person as a young transitioner, which few are able to achieve.
>>41385469oh you're just a sour-grapes hon, that explains it
>>41385480I pass even as an older transitioner. One thing you should learn is that if you attack others' rights you should expect them to hit back
>>41378840when i was in high school i performed a song called "i hate my body! i wanna be a girl!" whilst in cosplay with my band. i was the lead singer.i was a femboy for a long time, but my main thing was that if estrogen would make me ugly and unlovable, then why even do it? eventually i did, best decision i ever made though i wish i had made it sooner
>>41385492doubtfulanyways, you were the one attacking others' rights and I was the one hitting back
>>41385521sorry if you felt attacked by one post out of a hundred lmao
>>41385526I didn't read through hundreds of replies to this shitty bait thread I just scrolled to the bottom and your retarded post attacking people more fortunate than you was one of the first ones I read
>>41385423fuck off, if I trooned as a kid I actually could have lived a somewhat normal life, and not the alcoholic neverpasser repper that I am now.
>>41385540still got baited award>>41385588nah you have hon genes
>>41378840ok but can i still just be a cis man on estrogen
>>41387587As long as you repress all urges forever and manmode and never call yourself trans or a woman then sure idgaf what you goon to
>>41387332>hon genescishons still pass as women
>>41389014no they don't
the op of this thread is a desperate repper
>>41381678literally all i would've had to do was just tell my younger self that hrt exists and what the effects of it are and i could've just been happy now ffs i need to kmsyeah so im probably faketrans whatever that means
>>41378840i had agp since childhood which morphed into dysphoria in adulthood. i still don't know if transition is worth it
>>41387890and if you don't repress it then what?
It can be difficult to differentiate between male and female adults. This is even more pronounced the earlier into puberty someone is. In these case where they don't even register their body as a male body, the only dysphoria would come from social pressures to adhere to what they see as a completely arbitrary, pointless, and discriminatory set of rules(this never gets resolved). So someone isolated or with a lax family could easily not experience too much disgust with their gender because they don't even associate with it in the first place. They just end up in this weird limbo of not thinking about it which is simultaneously what they're supposed to do and a transgression that will see them outcast from their family and society. So begins the tranny dissociation.
>>41378840>>41378859god people who think shit like this are fucking retarded. You can just tell that these people were not kids in the 80s and 90s.
>>41391426ok grandpa
>Look in the mirror>See a woman>Strangers at work call me a woman>Strangers on the phone call me a womanEven if I started HRT at 36, sounds like I'm a woman to me..
>>41378840i transitioned anyway becuz im based. you didnt transition because you are not based.
