I think im at 450, seems okay for a troon ig?
im at 447 and i dont pass so your mileage may vary
i have 18.25" = 463.5mm and it feels so over
>>41380950this isnt accurate, women do not have shoulders that broad lol.
yes that's pretty accurate
Fat people skew these statistics
>>41380950bideltoid is hugboxxy bc women carry much more fat in their arms, only biacromial matters
What’s the link?
>>41382447correct
>>41380950Women don’t have shoulders that broad whatsoever. Just look at women irl. They’re 40cm at *most*. I assume obesity massively skews these stats. I have 43cm at 180cm tall which is considered good in ANSUR, yet mine look visibly very broad compared to any woman i’ve ever seen AND finding clothes that fit is impossible. imo if you have shoulders over 40cm it’s probably over for upper body passing.
>>41382789Couldn't it be the height or a lack of hips fucking things up more likely?
>>41382789you can have the same bideltoid as a woman and still look massive due to male shoulder shape
>>41382789The reason it looks massive is likely due to a lack of breasts or hips.
>>41382225of course they do, why do you think they’re called broads?
>>41382253Holy fuck im cis
>>41382253the helly those measurements
>>41382253im into the lower cis female range thats literally kimpossible
>>41380950pretty sure ANSUR data is based on people in the military so the data is probably skewed to the broader more masculine men and women
>>41382253im in the bottom right corner of this graph holy fuck im such an outlierhon its over
>>41383135ANSUR 1 was like 1988 and women couldn't do combat roles back then, so you are still comparing to female office workers that work in the military.
>>41380950>cis male tranny chaser>173cm tall>45cm bideltoid (just measured in the mirror)Holy shit I already knew it was over, but now you're telling me I literally have afab proportions too??
>>41385115it's ok, transbians are easy
>>41382837>>41382898Nope. 102cm hip circ with 43cm bidelt is very male looking
>>41382789These are military women and are less obese than the population at large actually
>>41386156yea if you don't look at the ass you dumb whore
>>41380950stacking distributions like this should be illegal
>bringing up esoteric graphis and weird ways of measuring instead of just throwing on something flattering presenting female and riding a cockNgmi anon.
>>41382253This charts data was gathered from military cishons. Their bideltoids skew much higher
>>41380950if you ever feel good about yourself compare your ub to waist
>>41386437you have very poorly concieved notions of the military if you think anyone has to be in shape or have a certain level strength
>>41386156kys humblebragger
>>41380950after measuring triple times, mine is 16 inches or around 406mm. yay