I'm genuinely asking because I see a huge overlap and it's making me question my entire transition.One of the core traits of Borderline Personality Disorder is an "unstable sense of self." People with BPD often describe feeling empty or not knowing who they are, so they latch onto new hobbies, aesthetics, or even entire personalities to feel "real." Each new identity comes with an intense, euphoric rush at first, because it feels like they've finally found the "true me." But it's temporary, and eventually the emptiness returns.How is that any different from the cycle of dysphoria and euphoria?>Feel empty and wrong in your assigned gender (unstable sense of self)>Discover the concept of being trans and latch onto it (new identity)>Experience a rush of "euphoria" when you try on a new name/pronouns/clothes (intense positive feedback for the new identity)>Believe you have finally found your "true self"Are we sure we're not just a massive cluster of undiagnosed borderlines who have collectively decided that this specific identity fixation is a medical condition instead of a psychiatric one?
that isnt how it works anon
that is how it works anon
>>41384735a transphobe on /lgbt/ BTFO
>>41384663I think some trans people are this. And I think I'm one of them. Things that make me think I'm just a BPD trooncoper:>Initially trooned to try and win over this guy who only dated girls (only people i dated prior were women, had 1 long term gf)>Reaistant to effort, resistant to srs or other surgeries. Idk if this is because I think I will be less desirable with a srsussy or I'm scared or I don't want it. My current partner loves my cock so I like having it to make her happy. But idk if I could press a button that would make me a cis woman I think I would. But then I'd have periods and that would suck. And also my gf probably wouldn't like me any more>don't have any desire to socially transitionNot particularly masc but like masc career, people think I'm a man I do man stuff. But not really man stuff. Guy stuff. Maybe dude stuff. Idk but I'm killing it. And men respect me. So am I just like farming the respect of all these men by not coming out? I'm coping and saying I'm min maxing or it's for safety but is what i really want just approval and positive feedback? IdkIdk how much of this is just bpd people pleasing. My personality is so fragmented. Things that makes me think I'm not:>Did have issues with body when young, and sad I couldn't be a girl >Used to only be friends with girls then when puberty hit and boys started hanging with boys and girls started hanging with girls I got so sad but I liked hanging with boys too idk>Used to hate all pictures of me until I started doing makeup and taking hrt even though I was handsome. Hated people calling me handsome but idk if that's cause my mom called me handsome and i had mom issues >hated having a beard, would get depressed and cut every time I got super depressed and it grew out. But also mom attacked me once when I grew my beard out as a teenager so idk if it's to do with that or if it's sensoryI straight up don't understand myself. I'm years into trooning out and I have no idea why I did it
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>>41384663Wait, that makes a lot of sense.Not bad, OP. Might study connections this has a bit more.And best of all, BPD is seen as "womanly" (could just be a gigabottom brain thing, like lots of women are) and this validates the transgirl further.The better question is if this can attribute to poonerism too or if there are other personality types that affix themselves to "I clearly feel like a man" or whatever.
>>41384827You're on the right track, but you're making a critical error by assuming a single etiology. You're trying to fit two completely different phenomena into the same diagnostic box.You're correct that the BPD model is incredibly useful for understanding the MtF transition arc. The unstable sense of self, the fear of abandonment, the latching onto a new "favorite person" or identity it maps perfectly onto the AGP who seeks to resolve his internal emptiness by *becoming* the idealized object of male affection. It's a pathology of radical submission.But it has absolutely nothing to do with "poonerism." The FtM arc isn't driven by an unstable identity it's driven by a narcissistic rejection of perceived female powerlessness. They don't feel "like a man," they envy the social agency and lack of scrutiny they believe men possess. It's a flight *from* a perceived social disadvantage, not a journey *to* an authentic self. It's a pathology of radical envy.One is a borderline trying to become a perfect object of desire to never be abandoned. The other is a narcissist trying to escape the "victim class" by adopting the identity of the perceived oppressor. They are not the same.
>>41384745what part of that was transphobic
>>41384860So, I have seen lots of very... noisy "transmen" that exhibit lots of feminity (more so than the average woman: someone got into the hyperfeminine trend of wanting to become "masc" but doing the opposite) and THOSE I would happily align with the BPD euphoria attachment of new identity.And I agree that in the other cases, transgirls are going for a "carrot" (not just BPD identity euphoria but also the AGP goon enticement) and transboys are avoiding a "stick".
truth post OP
>>41384663Bump. Good post OP I think you're onto something with this one. Everyone talks about the autism - gender dysphoria connection, but not many talk about the BPD connection when in hindsight it should be obvious. Now if only there was a theory that better explained the obsessive compulsive connection too, beyond just TOCD.
>>41384663I have Bipolar and haven't trooned out because I'm worried it's actually just some Bipolar feeling. I usually only get the desire to troon when Manic or having a Mixed Episode but when I'm depressive I don't wanna troon so idk.
>>41384663>they latch onto new hobbies, aestheticsyeah i do that but mostly to add to the previous one
>>41384663a lot of detrooners are bpd, I don’t think this applies to most trannies tho trannies are more usually npd
