I think most people can get acceptable results after a while if they really try and have money to drop, but there are a few people (especially like, post 40) who are very truely fucked. There is also the question of how clocky you consider "acceptable".

>>41384940
it's a case by case basis, some don't get enough chemicals and others don't take care of themselves enough or maybe both

>>41384950
I know it sounds harsh but if you don't look fully like the opposite sex minus the genitals there is no point. You're just gonna be a third thing. Better to try different stuff like peptides.

At 25+ hrt does fuckall. From that point it is all about starting point, effort and surgery.

>>41385674
What if you started mid 20s but still don't pass when you turn 25+

>>41384940
Its not that its too late its that it never began lmao

Hons are hons because of genetics.. people on this board put way too much on starting young. Like there are thousands of youngshit hons and 100x more passoids that started after 18 because its about genes… if you werent twinked out and had fem features to begin with then why are you transitioning

>>41385769
Pooner version of this

>>41384940
As much as I wish it weren't true, for some of us it's actually over. Also depends on your own standards, and what you'll be reasonably satisfied with achieving.

>>41385769
so true, i started at 21 and still am, and i pass way more than the youngshits and other trannies here. i was kinda baffled at how fast it happened. i honestly have pity for all the hons who don’t pass and aren’t pretty.

>>41387559
Fuck it, gonna screw around with different chems. Better than being talked about like this.

>>41388101
whataya havin nona? mind sharin some?

>>41384940
After like age 25 people rarely can pass without massive surgeries

>>41388115
Peptides, SARMs, AIs and Androgenic Steroids

>>41385769
this, it’s literally just genes at the end of the day. same for breast growth, all the honscience in the world isn’t gonna stop you from being flat if you got shit genes. I’ve seen many lateshits that mog youngshits because they won the lottery

>>41388287
I am a pooner dumbass. Choices are I cry forever like a bitch or I do something