Does anyone else get extreme secondhand embarassment from FTMs who claim to be "roiding" on normal or low testosterone doses?Yeah, testosterone is technically a "steroid" in the same way estradiol is and you're getting more muscle than a cis woman but be fucking serious dood. You are equivalent to average non-roider cis men at best. Half the time the people who say this aren't even buying from actual UGLs and they're just getting their testosterone from a doctor who's probably poondosing them.Why do pooners do this? Do they think it makes them look cool? If I wanted to get super woke, I could also go on about the transphobic narratives about trans men being "roiders" for being on normal TRT but I don't feel like that.
>>41398969>Why do poonersbecause they're women
Nah dood I've been hella roiding for years now
>>41399234Genuinely how though? Would you say the same about cis men on normal TRT? imo unless if your testosterone levels are at least 1500 ng/dl it doesn't count as roiding.
>>41398969>doctor who is probably poondosing themNo, that's retarded.. your doctor should test your levels after a few months and if you're still below male levels they'll increase your dose. Part of the reason is that so they know you're not hypogonadal for the sake of your bones
>>41398969It’s funnier and less cucked than saying I’m on HRT. Also I’m transphobic
>>41398969Let us BELIEVE, damn it
>>41399270I'm hella masc
>>41399284"Should" does not mean "will'. A lot of doctors think that FTMs should have testosterone levels of 150-500 ng/dl, and even more doctors think that estradiol levels are entirely irrelevant.>>41399300>>41399418You're embarassing yourselves and if you ever talk to actual roiders you'll realize that you look stupid. Either take roids or stop calling yourselves roiders.
>>41399498Hecking rude dood, I'm valid and worthy
>>41398969what algae stack she on
>>41399293>funnierNot really you just look stupid>less cucked than saying I’m on HRTJust say you're on TRT then, that's what cis men say when they're on HRT.>I’m transphobicSkill issue
>>41399553Diet high in moonrocks, with 20g green algae daily and 300g chlorella twice a week.
No I think it's cool cringe and seems empoweringStop caring so much
>>41399710I don't know if cringe is even the right word for it. It's just pretending to be something that you're very obviously not. It's annoying and embarrassing.
>>41399498>You're embarassing yourselvesCan't be embarassed if I only tell it to myself in my head semi-ironically at the gym, not that serious.
>>41399820Fair but I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the people who will openly call themselves roiders. And they always throw a fit when you point out that they're not roiding and have never taken steroids.
>>41399850I agree, at that extent that's cringe
>>41399284are the bones a concern? i'm mtf post-op and have been off estrogen for months due to legal issues and my doctors say it's okay>>41399498isn't that normal? mine was 250?
>>41400631Poondosing is a problem because it leads to high estradiol and low testosterone, which leads to continued feminization and "masculinization" more akin to a woman with PCOS than a pubescent boy. Also get back on estradiol you will develop osteoporosis if you don't.
>>41401289so what's a poondose? doesn't too high of T cause aromatization? what do you think are ideal levels? my doc looks for 400-800 and i'm usually in the 700s
>>41399234>ooooooo I need surgery for a transgina, ooooooooooo>ooo i need testosterone ooooooooPOONTROON ABOMINATIONDIEPERISHSUFFERGRIND YOUR EEVEE PLUSH
>>41401757>so what's a poondose?Any dose too low to achieve adult male levels, though some people say that onions t levels (300-400) are also poondose.>doesn't too high of T cause aromatization?Aromatization is just an aspect of how the human body metabolizes testosterone. It happens no matter how much testosterone you have in your body, and it's why cis men (and trans men after oopherectomy) don't need to take estradiol in order to not get osteoporosis. It only becomes a problem when it gets to the point of overaromatization, which in most people does not happen below 1000ng/dl. A month ago I was well over 1000 (the machine did not measure the actual number) and my estradiol was only barely elevated at 42 pg/ml>what do you think are ideal levels?Upper end of regular adult male range, so 500-1000.>my doc looks for 400-800 and i'm usually in the 700sThat's fine, just if your levels ever dip make sure your estradiol doesn't get too high.
>>41398969because ftms on t are mutilated roiding afabs and they know it
>>41398969>Another hon seething at ftms for no reason
>>41401775Hecking hellsies, wowzers anon you need to hella cool off
