life as a virgin is more miserable than life as a trannyt. virgin tranny
>>41410872How so
>>41410876If you're trans there are at least things you can do to pass better and mitigate any local discrimination. In a way, there is a way "out" of being trans with enough effort and cherrypicking.Virginity is instead a lifelong curse stricken upon the unworthy and every single culture across the planet will hate you for being one. There is no way out. When it comes up, and it will come up if you ever get close to anyone because of how normalized and "easy" sex is supposed to be, they will no longer see you as human.
if you were trutrans you'd get laid easily
>>41410872i was a virgin for like 23 years and hated myself for being a loser, even tho i didnt actually care about sex or really want sex, and ended up getting laid just so I could laugh at ppl who called me a virgin in online voice chat. i learned a very valuable lesson: sex is overrated and beating urself up for not having sex is gay af it's also much easier to get than you'd think, especially if u troon out. keep the faith anon inshallah u will be laid
>>41410964it's not lifelong since you can easily just have sex and stop being a virgin?not that it's really that important
>>41410872you could get sex easily if you really desire it so much?just realize that what you seek isn't the sexual act in itself, it's the shit supposedly surrounding it...
>>41411057>23I'm 31...>>41411075>it's not lifelong>>41411083>you could get sex easilyObviously people in the caste I've been given can't just go out and force people into having sex with us. I have no agency in whether or not someone decides to fuck me. Once they decide not to touch me, and they always decide this, it's out of my hands. Anything further from me would be rape.
>>41411108you could literally go get sex tonight if you really wanted it
>>41411108oh shit had no idea u were in a caste system I'm so sorry OP. : (i hope u can escape ur country and find the peace u deserve
>>41410964>If you're trans you can at least lie about being trans through years of HRT, voice training, makeup, and surgery>But you can't lie about being a virginOP how much lead did you suck on as a kid?
>>41411171That's not how it works. Certain people, myself included, just don't get sexual interest or attention even when we put ourselves out there.>>41411178Right? The west is so fucked up.>>41411305You could lie, but that's just an alternative road to never being able to fully be yourself around others. If you're excluded for being a virgin, or exclude yourself by lying about being a virgin, what difference does it make? The end result is still you being alone with nobody that understands you.
>>41411564So, so close to being self-aware of how retarded it is to compare being a virgin to being trans but tragically just not quite there
>>41411613I am literally both anon. Being trans has caused less issues for me than being a virgin. They're comparable in my mind because neither can be reformed once they're realized, only ignored before the realization.
>>41410872why be a virgin? just have sex
>>41410872literally me but i'm having sex tomorrow soooo
>>41411651see? its that simple t: >>41411650
>>41411650>>41411651>>41411662It's only simple for the right people. I am not part of the right people because of how I was born. When I try to put myself out there and find sex, I get nothing, and sometimes worse than nothing.
>>41411677just have sex bro its not that deep
>>41411698Nobody being wiling to have sex with me runs very deep through my life, actually. It's been a problem since my early 20's.
>>41411709life sucks sometimes
>>41411709Do you like men
>>41411869It does anon, it does...>>41412465I've tried with men and women. No sex from either.
>>41412474Just have sex with a 4channer haha
>>41410872Just wait till you find out that sex is not even slightly a big deal. Will you rope when you find out? Let's see
>>41412480It's not about how it feels, it's about the act itself. When will normoids get it
>>41412490ill have sex with you nona
>>41412502I'm not op
>>41412510oh... well ill still have sex with you
>>41412479Tried that too. No sex, and yes we met up.>>41412480I won't find out anon because I'll never be able to have sex. That's what this vent thread is about.
>>41412519You met up and what? Was it awkward?
>>41412518I am a man
>>41412568ummm okay do you wanna have sex though
>>41412584OKAY FINE! Damn..
>>41412598based wya :p
>>41412607Europe
>>41412530A bunch of stuff happened, some of it good, but no sex happened. It was awkward some of the time but rarely because of me.>>41412502>>41412510>>41412518>>41412568>>41412584>>41412598>>41412607Even in my own thread other people will hookup right in front of me through nothing but stary text chat, and yet it will never happen for me. I wasn't born a way that makes people have these interactions with me and I don't even know how. If I were a narcissist I'd say you people were mocking me.
>>41412664I'm sorry OP that wasn't my intention. It's just that someone here really wants to have sex (I think it's just shitposting, don't take it to heart).I understand at least some of your pain. I don't know how many times you've tried but maybe not enough.
>>41412631oops srry. amerikajin desu>>41412664ill have sex with you op :3
>>41412689>I understand at least some of your pain.I sincerely doubt it given your behavior and mindset.>I don't know how many times you've tried but maybe not enough.It's been dozens of times over more than a decade. I've been on dating apps for years as well. It just won't happen regardless of how many times I rework or improve how I present myself.
>>41412751No I do, I am a virgin myself for a number of reasons, I was just shitposting earlier.People who lose it at a normal age don't understand that it's not about how it feels. It's about the act itself, that someone chose to do that with you. If you can't find anyone you feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with you, inhuman even. I get it.
>>41412790>People who lose it at a normal age don't understand that it's not about how it feels. It's about the act itself, that someone chose to do that with you. If you can't find anyone you feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with you, inhuman even.Maybe you do get it, just a bit. I've honestly started slipping into using it/its pronouns some times "as a joke" because of how inhuman I feel. It feels more accurate to call myself a non-human object than it does to call myself a woman, because that's how I'm viewed in my truest self. I got over the "you will never be a women" shit, but I never expected "you will never be a human" to creep up on me in its place.
>>41412905Do you get misgendered irl though? Please don't do this to yourself
>>41412922>Do you get misgendered irl though?Not anymore. Like I said at the start, transition is something you can overcome with enough time and effort.>Please don't do this to yourselfI don't see why not? When I stopped cutting years ago it was because someone I was interested in told me they couldn't date someone who cut, but I've been considering it again too since dating has become something fundamentally hopeless for me and it always made me feel better for a while. There's no deep end worry about being in anymore when my pool is empty.
>>41413037Literally just post an unsee and you'll get heaps of chasers lusting over you. If you came this far in your transition, it would be a shame to give up now.
>>41413068Anon, I've tried dating people from 4chan. They saw pictures of me or in person. Nothing.I've tried dating apps, where everyone can see pictures of me. Nothing.I've tried in person groups and meetups with my IRL body there to look at. Nothing.I may have given up on me, but it's obvious I didn't give up on me first. I just adapted.
>>41413100I don't know. If you met up with people who saw your pics first then it's probably not about looks
>>41412664>It was awkward some of the time but rarely because of me.>rarely because of melmao>If I were a narcissist I'd say you people were mocking me.you are a narcissist
>>41413115I never really said it was about looks. The only thing I'm sure of is that I'm unwanted.
>>41413129You're making my broken bird chaser heart cry
>>414131284channers are pretty awkward people anon. I've worked enough public facing jobs to have basic social skills, meanwhile I've seen dates go catatonic because a cashier commented on her shirt.
never have sex, it's not worth it at all be a pure virgin forever
>>41413174based monkmoder
>>41413148You have me curious now. Why do you think you're a virgin?
>>41410872I can fix that for you
>>41410872im a virgin and a tranny and i dont care about being a virgin at all i just want to be able to leave my house without bursting out crying because i look like a monster and i'm ashamed to be seen by anyone
>>41413374This is how I felt when I started HRT because I was still at an age where being a virgin was just awkward and not dehumanizing. Your transition will work out girl just give it time and make steady progress. If you lose your virginity after you're a girl then good for you, otherwise I'll see you posting vent threads like these in your 30's.
>>41410872Same, I'm conflicted about sex because I really want it, but at the same time I think I'd be losing something by going out to get fucked by a man.
I want a shy boymoder that writes out her biggest fantasy of how she wants to lose it then I do whatever she wants to make her happy
>>41410872you can take the tranny out of the incel but you can't take the incel out of the tranny
>>41410872i'm a virgin tranny and honestly i would so much rather have a close and supportive group of friends, and stable enough mental health to be able to leave the house and stick to routines and get a job. sex is not even in my top 10 list of priorities
>>41414700>you can take the tranny out of the incellol how? repression doesn't work
>>41413321Oh I know exactly why. At first it was me being very self conscious about some parts of my appearance. After the age of about 21 it's because I am a depressed sack of bones
>>41410872Lost my virginity in a week after effort, not recommended though
>>41417689where do you live OP? If you are in australia I will make passionate love to you
>>41417980I'm not OP and I'm not in Australia
>>41418012sweet, thanks
>>41417980Making love to someone you don't even know is not passionate. Passion for another person requires connection.
>>41410872anon, as a late 20s man who is also a virgin, I would prefer my partner be as well. who the hell wants their gf to have fucked other dudes
