Are there actually trans women who prefer straight cis men? It seems to me like they are all faking it. They actuallly prefer other women trans or cis.
>>41411106You'll go to jail for tricking men, hon. That's rape!
>>41411106>you're too gay to get women>you're too straight for gay menare we basically fags or are we straight why cant you fucking people ever make up your mind?
Meta attraction. She doesn't prefer men. She wants to feel valid.
>>41411106i prefer men and always have
>>41411106men are more likely to be transphobic and more likely to look like shit. Its better to stay in the gay world where people will at least pretend to tolerate you
>>41411106men liking men is like totally gay man!
>>41411132Is it about feeling valid as the woman? If you were cis. Would you still feel this way ?
>>41411106I like men and how they are and what they look like when they work out and do things
>>41411242you are a man
HSTS go for straight cis men, because straight cis men are attracted to their femininity whereas gay cis men are not. They're attracted to the man.Meta-attracted AGPs go for straight cis men, because it helps them act out their fantasy of being women. They're not attracted to the man: they're attracted to being the woman getting fucked by a man.
>>41413715this argument never made sense. if hsts are so naturally feminine that it makes sense for them to go for straight guys, why bother transitioning at all? if they are just le pure angels who love men they should just be gay men. in reality hsts have just as much agp as agps
>>414139891. Straight men don't like dick, so they're not into people who are basically women with dicks. Transitioning and getting SRS enables HSTS to be with straight men.2. HSTS would be with gay men if they could. The problem is gay men aren't into HSTS, because gay men are attracted to masculinity, not to femininity.>in reality hsts have just as much agp as agpsOnly if you think the AGPs who pretend to be HSTS because they developed dysphoria young are actually HSTS, which they're not.
>>41414038blanchardism is false
>>41413989>if hsts are so naturally feminine that it makes sense for them to go for straight guys, why bother transitioning at all?Because testosterone eventually catches up with every male.
>>41414084straight trans women are larping gay men
>>41411106>Are there actually trans women who prefer straight cis men?Yes. I was an out homo before transitioning. If we're being forthcoming, frankly, gay guys gave me an ick. Why? Because even the "masc" ones have that something about them. idk, it's not the full on zest of a femme gay, but it's enough for me to lose attraction.
There are, but they are incredibly rare these days. There are a lot who claim they do and are psychotic about it because they crave validation, but these are meta attracted gynephiles. When you do meet a trans woman who truly likes men and is attracted to masculinity it's unmistakable.
>>41414084So says everyone who doesn't like what Blanchard's typology says about them.>>41414091HSTS are exceptionally physically hypomasculine. Twinkdeath doesn't hit them like it does normal males.>>41414096There are two main types of "straight trans women."HSTS are androphilic hypomasculine natal males who fail to attract partners as men because of their innate physical and behavioral femininity. They sleep with men because they're attracted to men.Meta-attracted AGPs are gynephilic natal males whose sexuality is directed internally, with the effect that having a male body causes them dysphoria. They sleep with men in order to feel affirmed as women.
>>41414038>HSTS would be with gay men if they couldwhat a weird claim, we don't want gay men at all>>41414132it must be an extreme minority that likes the wack shit blanchardism says about them
>>41413989Because they'd behave like women and look like men, dying alone.
blanchard is about as credible as andrew wakefield it's vaccines cause autism for trannies
>>41414145>what a weird claim, we don't want gay men at allThat's AGP talk. The ones who want explicitly straight men do so because they're trying to act out a fantasy of being female.There are hypomasculine gay men and there are hypermasculine gay men. Androphiles are attracted to masculinity.
>>41411106I love straight men and they really do not like me at all in that way. I always make them laugh and they seem to like being around me, but I'm just the funny tranny, not someone they want to be with.
>>41414145>we don't want gay men at allHSTS just like men, what you're describing is AGP. Many HSTS have straight, homosexual or bisexual long term partners. What you are describing is needing to be validated as a woman by your partners apparent sexual orientation, which is part of AGP.
>>41414168>hypermasculine gay menYou can keep your fruity bears in leather, bro. Masculine. lol. A masculine man is the hometown guy in a Hallmark movie that a woman leaves her husband for. Not some Cho Aniki shit.
>>41411106i prefer straight cis men in general, i think if i was cis this wouldnt change so much, just that id be in less fear of ruining my life
>>41414168agp isn't real>The ones who want explicitly straight men do so because they're trying to act out a fantasy of being female.nah I just want to hug and kiss a straight masc guy>>41414189same response your categories of agp and hsts are dumb, I like ladykillers not ladyboykillers>needing to be validated as a womansounds like you're projecting anon
>>41411106me. but I dont pass so whatever
>>41414214>I just want to hug and kiss a straight masc guyAnd he must be straight, because otherwise he might not see you as a real woman, and that would trigger your dysphoria, because you are AGP.
>wants somebody in part because they don't see you as a man and call you a man and want you to be a man>hmm you're agp and meta attracted and a fetishist and not really attracted to men or masculinity a cis woman would have no problem with this situationthink you might be stupid ms blanchard cultist
>>41414214Don't even try to bullshit me brother, there are weak and effeminate straight men, and there are regular gay men. Just like there are lesbians who are feminine, and lesbians who are butch. >trying to attack my identityWhy, do you feel like yours is under attack?
>>41414255>there are regular gay menIf you think gays can't clock gays, you're very deluded.
>>41414248I don't think anyone here mentioned a man calling you a man and wanting you to be a man. I think anyone who does that would be disrespectful. Why the fuck do so many AGPs larp as HSTS? What's even the point?
>>41414245he must be straight because I'm a woman and that would be weird to be in a relationship with a gay man as a woman like it wouldn't work what are you dumb?and yeah maybe it would feel bad if I was in a relationship with somebody that insists I'm a man? why would that mean I have a bimbo fetish? your pseudoscience is ridiculous, I wouldn't want to have a friend that does that either, or a co-worker, or an employer, or a therapist, idg why you think not wanting to be called a man must involve wanking, I think that says a lot about you
"I'M MORE WOMAN BECAUSE I LIKE MEN" AWARD
>>41414279It's because HSTS has somehow ended up as "good trans" and AGP as "bad trans." See: all the transmed AGPs desperately trying to rewrite AGP to mean only overt fetishists.
>>41414255when did I attack your "identity"?there aren't gay men who are like straight men when it comes to sexuality lol, like by definition>>41414279>anyone who does that would be disrespectfulthat's what a gay man is doing if they date a trans woman idiot
>>41411106I do. They're so hot. >>41414228This. Fall in love with straight cis man, get btfo because I don't pass, rinse and repeat.
>>41414287Or he could be bi. You'd hate that, because then you'd never know if he truly saw you as a woman. It would eat away at you. Same way transbians get frustrated if their partners won't commit to identifying as lesbian.
>>41414302I don't claim to be either hsts or agp because they're both dumb and I don't think straight trans women are better than lesbian trans women, I think your dichotomy just doesn't make any sense
>>41414329Don't tell me what I hate, if I trusted a partner that was bi I wouldn't be bothered by it, if they start talking about detransition or wouldn't it be better if I stay masculine that would be a problem though because I don't want to do that and it means we're actually incompatibleit really sounds like you're projecting how you'd feel because of how specific these scenarios are, like you don't consider any other possibility lmao
>>41414355There's that AGP rage bubbling to the surface!>>41414330Cool. Well, the existence of two types of effeminate males has been observed at least as far back as the 13th century, so it has a long history. Blanchard didn't invent his typology out of nowhere.
Yest. dated one for a year
>>41414401what "agp" rage? it sounds like you're just trying to cloak insults in pretend science language, I haven't been hostile at all, but you have been incredibly rude actually so maybe you're whatever phenotype your astrological projections say goes along with that there's all kinds of types of "effeminate males" none of that makes anything blanchard said true
>>41411106I know this is a bait thread but I'm a straight tranny and here's my honest thoughts on men:>men's chestsI want to hug them...>men's handsI want them to touch my body...>men's buttsI want to squeeze them...>men's smilesI want to see them...>men's hairI want to ruffle them...>men's lipsI want to kiss them...>men's ballsI want to lick them...>men's penisesI want them in my neopussy and in my mouth...>men's seedI want it impregnating me...I've known I've liked men and that I should've been born with a vagina long before I even knew I was a tranny.
>>41414301>"I'M MORE WOMAN BECAUSE I LIKE MEN" AWARDYeah that's true for cis women too. You can not like it, but that's how it is.
>>41414503Based on what?
>>41414523How cis lesbians are treated.
>>41414523I didn't say it was based.
>>41414503The difference is at least cis lesbians aren't using their "gock" to fuck other women, lol...
>>41414503trvketransbian brain cant comprehend that the average cis lesbian is more masc than the average straight woman
>>41414484Your post made me so lonely. I want all of that so bad...I'm so upset. I've been rejected so much. I just want to be claimed and bury my face into a man's chest and neck and smell him and squeeze him tight. I want to hear him laugh and see him smile, I want to suck him dry, I want him to fill me with cum. I want to wear his shirts and wrap them around pillows when he's gone.
>>41414591>wrap them around pillows when he's goneDamn I should really try this.
>>41414710It's so good. You put it over like a pillow case and hug it. I always bury my face in the shirt to smell him. I miss boysmell and boytouch and boyface so much right now.
>>41414729The AGP-larp-as-HSTS continues
>>41414748>ummmm you like men?? as a woman??? that's gayescape your cult please
is this paige seething or somebody else mental
>>41414748?
>>41414784You describe your actions like you're an anime stereotype of a woman, which is par for the course for AGP "straight trans girls."If one of my husband's worn shirts is lying around then I put it in the laundry basket. I don't go on about "boytouch" and wrap his shirts around pillows or whatever.
>>41414860Okay well good for you. I'm lonely and not married and I haven't been with a man in years, so yes, I yearn for boysmell. Congrats on being a cunt.
>>41414860I was nta actually but also that's pretty normal stuff to do when you're an internet loner, the lingo is tttt shit not anime eitheryou're clearly not missing your husband much is all, maybe if he went on a long trip and you had no other social contact you might
>>41411106>prefer straight menThey can prefer all they want but they're getting like Kinsey 2s or Kinsey 1s at absolute most
>>41414038>basically women with dicks*Boobtwinks
straight men are my ideal partner, i found it after trying with gay men, bi men, bi women, trans girls and cis girls.Im doing great with my bf since 6 years. Sometimes I have sexual desires for femboys and a few trans girls but i wouldn't consider them for a long relationship. I would't date or have sex with a cis girl again. Gay men are nice anyways, but straight one are the best because they stoicism helps me with my mental drama, every other gender makes my head worse
>>41414860Speak for yourself, anon. My bf isn't a slob so he doesn't leave dirty clothes lying around. If I want to smell him I can just lay on his chest or ask for one of his shirts to wear.
>>41414934>maybe if he went on a long trip and you had no other social contact you mightYeah her post reads like she's a homebody who's never been away from her hubby for more than two days lol. My bf gives me a used shirt or underwear to take with me on my work trips since he knows I like it...
>>41415024>or underwearoh behave
>>41414038>Straight men don't like dick, so they're not into people who are basically women with dicks.Speak for yourself, faggot. I'm super straight and I love dick and balls.
being a straight trans woman sucks. just had a guy I've been talking to say he's only dated women before and is glad he matched with me because he wants to experiment. nobody actually wants a long term serious relationship with a tranny, they just want to get their rocks off and leave you for a cis woman
>>41411106I'm probably 55-45 men to women. The ones I usually notice just randomly out and about are mostly women, but the ones I get butterflies interacting with directly are almost exclusively men.
>>41415490>being a non-passing straight trans woman sucksFTFY
>>41414038I'm straight and I think it's ok for a girl to have a dick and balls if she wants.
>>41415793GAMP detected
>>41415802I just like girls, whatever.
>>41415727keep telling yourself that. men aren't looking for passers either. it's almost worse bc your dating pool is straight men. when I was clockier I attracted bi men a lot and they at least saw me as a potential gf and not just a conquest
>>41411106No hetero man is interested of a person with a penis
>>41411106I'm only attracted to men.
>>41414990Your bf is gay>>41415822Gamps are gay
>>41413715>Meta-attracted AGPs go for straight cis men, because it helps them act out their fantasy of being women. They're not attracted to the man: they're attracted to being the woman getting fucked by a man.You're describing the majority of straight females...
>>41417747Females cannot be agp
>>41417724
>>41418199You can literally look at the graphs and see how hetero men don't get turned on from trannies like gamps do.Gamps are male preferring bisexuals, so gay
>>41418224The graphs also show that gay males do not experience the arousal from trannies and cis women that gamps do.
>>41418224lol youre kidding right?imagine if you exclude hons
>>41418248You get bit of stimuli from heteros and gays but as you see, gamps are bisexuals who prefer men. Hetero men don't desire penis, you just have to cope with that.
>>41411106I like men more than woman
>>41411106have dated men but always ended up having multiple bio female fuckbuddies on the side
>>41418248Heterosexual men are more attracted to GAMs than homosexual men are, wow.
>>41418244>gay males do not experience the arousal from tranniesGay males get as aroused as hetero men do from trannie. You are not straight, deal with it.
>>41418253>prefer men>female side of the graph is high arousal, male side is lowAre you fucking retarded?
>>41418258Gay men and hetero men are pretty much equally turned on from trannies, so not much.
>>41418253you can clearly see that straight men are more attracted to troons than gays arethey also report less subjective arousal compared to genital arousal probably due to internalized transphobia>a bit of stimulicopeas I said, imagine if they used a method to effectively exclude hons
>>41418261Trans women are males (penis) so men who prefer them are preferring males
>>41418260Gay males do not experience the arousal from gams that gamps do, is what I wrote.
>>41418267>you can clearly see that straight men are more attracted to troons than gays areNot really, they are about the same level. Deal with your internalized homophobia, its sad.
>>41418270>shitcordia tier
>>41418275>they are about the same level.I wonder why...SAD!
>>41418267>as I said, imagine if they used a method to effectively exclude honsThats your cope. They showed porn trannies, and trannies look how trannies do. You are not hetero.
>>41418277Maybe cause you need to be bisexual to be ok with mixed sex characteristics
>>41418282Gamp is recognized as a variation of hetero orientation, look it up for yourself.
I don't care about my bfs sexuality cause I'll love him anyways desu
>>41418288By fellow gamps who have internalized homophobia, not by normal people. People are tired of playing your games, own your homosexuality
>>41418292Thats how it should be. Unless you have a pussy and are hsts, cause we deserve hetero men not these troon chasers
>>41411106My sexuality summed up in a YouTube cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_OXxy9DGJ4
>>41418307Nobody is watching your link ans getting computer std
>>41418313If your computer can't access YouTube without getting a virus, you've got bigger issues
>>41418301>I need straight men to validate my womanhoodAGP as fuck, stop larping as hsts you low iq autist
>>41418307how can someone look like this and deliberately look into a camera?
>>41418332I think she looked better before the FFS, but I know I'm a minority there
>>41418349she looks like a cheap plastic bitch and this is not an issue of bones, but just her styling is so uninspired
>>41418331I htsts wants a gay man, that the whole point of transitioning
lol couldn't date a straight guy cause I live a queer life and wanna grow in that together with my bf. A straight guy just wouldn't get it and tread along the normative path. Would make me sad I think
>>41411106i like bisexual men
>>41418431me toobi tops are pretty much the best partners for tranners
>>41418192>Females cannot be agpOkay, the same sexuality\attraction in females can't be agp, cool. It's still the same sexuality\attraction...
>>41411106A better question is are there actually any trans-men? Because I've never seen one post anywhere before.
>>41411106Is it rlly that hard for agp transbians to believe troons would want to date moids?
>>41411155Sweety transphobia is not real because there no such thing as trans.
>>41418662True ,it just makes sense
>41411106Are you retarded?
>>41411106I like both but prefer men
>>41411106each time a trans woman says she's attracted to men you call her meta-attractedso no, there are none by your definition because you will find some reason why they're not *really* attracted to menbasically it's just the true scotsman fallacy
>>41422164Anyone whose sexual orientation "changed on HRT" is meta-attracted.
>>41422524or maybe sexuality is influenced by sex hormones, what a concept, I know
