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Genuinely asking, what is the end goal of truscum/transmeds?

Every time I see them post online, it's just endless, bitter gatekeeping about who is "trans enough" to count. They demand you have this perfect narrative of crippling, lifelong dysphoria or else you're just a "tucute" trender who needs to be purged.

How is that functionally any different from what TERFs say about us? They're both obsessed with policing our identities and trying to invalidate people. It feels like they're just doing the phobes' work for them and creating an unsafe atmosphere for anyone who is still questioning or doesn't fit their narrow little box.

Is this ideology becoming a serious problem for the community? It feels like it is.
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Transmedicalism is just an attempt to deny the existence of AGP, or distort it into meaning only overt fetishists.
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>>41428006
go back to r/mtf or whatever circlejerk you came from please
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>>41428006
transmedicalism is based and potentially optics-healing when applied to under 18 trans ppl
transmedicalism is cringe and impossible to enforce when applied to 18+ trans ppl
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>>41428006
well no, it is transphobia to marginalize and erase ppl cos they make use of medical care or describe it as a medical condition
online u will find ppl screaming in either groups at others, but there is an inherent transphobia in labeling ppl as 'transmed' being just a more polite version of 'truscum'
gatekeeping itself is also not inherently transphobic, tho it can and has caused harm
on the other hand the idea 'everybody is the same' is also harmful and when applied to the diverse group under the 'trans' umbrella it could be argued that it's transphobic as it seeks to erase and diminish groups in a way that can cause genuine material harm as opposed to disagreeing with terminology
there are definitely distinct groups under the umbrella and forcing everyone to stay under one grouping does not seem to help the minority group which it the one often labeled 'transmed' or incorrectly as 'binary trans'
as for its relation to terf stuff it is really the opposite, before terf scholarship took shape the situation was a medicalized condition where it was understood that it was based in sex
both trans activists that did not feel they wanted srs and feminists pushed for the emphasis on gender, the latter arguing that trans women should be excluded from sex-based rights and discourse, and gender is merely socially constructed
there is a modern trend where terfs align with anti-gender rhetoric from the right-wing, but their early campaign was more aligned with pushing identities like nb in lieu of accepting trans is a sexed condition
hope that helps clarify some of ur questions
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>>41428130
thanks for making such a wall of text for my AI generated post nigga
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>>41428006
>Genuinely asking, what is the end goal of truscum/transmeds?
divide and conquer
It's a psyop by pickmes and retards to score point with the deranged conservatives
>Every time I see them post online, it's just endless, bitter gatekeeping about who is "trans enough" to count. They demand you have this perfect narrative of crippling, lifelong dysphoria or else you're just a "tucute" trender who needs to be purged.
Gatekeeping is bad.
>How is that functionally any different from what TERFs say about us? They're both obsessed with policing our identities and trying to invalidate people. It feels like they're just doing the phobes' work for them and creating an unsafe atmosphere for anyone who is still questioning or doesn't fit their narrow little box.
Hit the nail on the head with that one
Scratch a transmedicalist watch a terf bleed
>Is this ideology becoming a serious problem for the community? It feels like it is.
Not really, it's just more advertised by grifters who still think they can talk their way out of hrt bans if they just act holier than thou
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>>41428159
it's not that much text lil zoomy fren, but I doubt it will help the ai much tbqh
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>>41428006
it's to protect the ability to actually treat transexualism medically (and with insurance)
that's what it boils down to.
if you dilute that, insurance won't pay for your beautification surgery. if there isn't clinically documented suffering that is more taxing or expensive to treat then an understood solution.
tru/transmed or whatever you want to call it just don't want to lose their healthcare at the foundation of their beliefs
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>>41428169
Sauce me up on the art will ya
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>>41428171
greer lankton
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>>41428169
basically, it's a good point, anti-medicalization tends to be from a position of privilege
like when some of the recent stuff was pushed thru at first some nb content creators if I recall said 'dw it won't impact me' or something to that effect
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>>41428181
Kino, thanks
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>>41428006
>what is the end goal of truscum/transmeds?
usually, this is centered around changing the cultural narrative around trans people to more strongly center medical transition and exclude self-identified "trans" people from the label if they do not medically transition.

i feel like theres multiple groups here though.
one really just wants to recenter the conversation and trans civil rights movement around medical transition. for example protecting access to medical transition for prisoners, informed consent access to HRT for capable adults, ensuring insurance coverage, etc. instead of bombarding normies with made up genders, the idea that "Ayden (he/him) non-hrt fem-presenting trans man" is actually a gay man and should be allowed into bathhouses and treated identically to a cis male.

the other centers their identity around the diagnosis (not the medical act of transitioning) and engages in near-constant purity testing of other trans people that pass less than them. Usually this is done by non-passing effortmaxxers mindbroken by the tranny semipasser blackpill
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yes
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>>41428006
Absolutely true. Not to mention that 'transgenderism' is already a very expensive endeavor. They'll do everything to make it even worse. Divide and conquer. This will be archived fast.
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>>41428006
The end goal is to eradicate the trenders and people who think our suffrage is hip, so that we can stop getting optics nuked and genocided. You are not entitled to appropriate transgenderism because you interpret it differently. There is nothing fun or glamorous about it.
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>>41429673
all of these men look like my dad
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>>41428006
>Genuinely asking, what is the end goal of truscum/transmeds?
It's clear that self-id doesn't fly with society at large. They were sort of okay with medical and governmental professionals handling the gatekeeping and legal transition process. The end goal of transmeds is recognizing that trans acceptance requires both parties to meet halfway.
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>>41428006
average tumblroid
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>>41428006
there really is no point in worrying about transmeds. They would sooner prevent all trannies from getting HRT and round us up in camps than have only people with "valid" dysphoria transition. It is far too late for that im afraid
no republicans are not your friend hon. DIY for every boy below the age of 25
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>>41428200
>one really just wants to recenter the conversation and trans civil rights movement around medical transition. for example protecting access to medical transition for prisoners, informed consent access to HRT for capable adults, ensuring insurance coverage, etc. instead of bombarding normies with made up genders, the idea that "Ayden (he/him) non-hrt fem-presenting trans man" is actually a gay man and should be allowed into bathhouses and treated identically to a cis male.
based
>the other centers their identity around the diagnosis (not the medical act of transitioning) and engages in near-constant purity testing of other trans people that pass less than them. Usually this is done by non-passing effortmaxxers mindbroken by the tranny semipasser blackpill
cucked
also those people never pass themselves. Its just a tool to get mad at other trans people and feel better than them. Stealth trans people really dont need to care
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>>41428006
I'm just gonna skip to the end of this conversation and tell you you will never be trans
peace
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Nobody should want to be trans or dysphoric. Transmeds inadvertantly idealize the disease and make it a status symbol that others then pick up on meme-etically. This is intermediate dialectics.
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>>41430771
Yeah
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didn't read, answer is yes, obviously.
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>>41428006
>Is this ideology becoming a serious problem for the community? It feels like it is.
The only time I ever hear about "trans medicalism" is when people complain about it. Maybe you just need to touch grass?
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only uggos complain about transmedicalism



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