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Why are transgirls so submissive? They're more submissive than cis girls. They're just so retarded and weak and they melt right in your hands at the slightest bit of affection. Why is that?
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>>41458890
years of neglect and self hate makes any amount of affection feel much more intense
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>>41458929
th-that's kinda hot
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>>41458929
does this mean those trans women are more feminine than cis women?
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>>41458929
this pretty much. they are starved
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>>41458933
mentally ill girls are hot?

>>41458942
it just means they aren't used to the attention that cis women are used to because they grew up different
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>>41458952
like a prisoner in auschwitz
trans women really are the jews of gender.
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>>41458890
bc most including myself are touch started lonely loser so they yern for that type of love so much
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>>41458942
Think of it like this

Women and men are like the yin and yang, and each contains a seed of its opposite

Tranners are the the yang but the primary energy has been suppressed while the seed of the opposite has been boosted
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>>41458890
why the fuck don't trans girls do anything to try and fix this image. i feel like the reason 9/10 trans girls can't find stability in a relationship is because they can't fucking comprehend themselves, let alone stand for up it. fuckin own that ur a cute weird ass tranny, don't let sex pests take advantage of you ffs. or maybe that's too malebrained or some bullshit xd. whatever
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>>41458890
agp o algo
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>>41459086
but anon... being taken advantage of by sex pests is fembrained
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>>41459086
>fuckin own that ur a cute weird ass tranny
i wish i could but im actually ugly as fuck and ive been both berated and assaulted in public for being a tranny even in boymode
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>>41459086
given the time, space, resources to slow down and care for themselves and stop dissociating 24/7, many wouldn't feel the need to transition
or i'm just a repper in denial
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>>41458890
I dunno, I've just always been like this. And I'm happy with it.
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>>41459110
so hecking truth dude (we're ngmi)
>>41459113
yeah and me too LOL. i cannot go outside without getting the nastiest looks from every pair of eyes i cross, even as a boymoder. it doesn't mean i won't disrespect myself and stoop into the trenches of chaser sexualization. you are worth alot, threads like this should make that evident. don't take anything other than what you know is good for yourself.
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>>41459086
>fuckin own that ur a cute weird ass tranny
This is what I do. I love being a tranny, I think it makes me unique and gives me tons of experiences and joys that other people will never know or have. I like being a super bubbly and submissive person, and I think it's fun that I have boyish interests but girly behaviors. I hope I can make a boy very happy one day. I long for it.
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>>41459144
the dissociation is caused by being a troon dummy. and to a certain degree the lack of self care is significantly worsened by not having a self to care for.

post hrt I started putting effort into my wardrobe, appearance, and hygiene. I also stopped dissociating once I grew optimistic about my body.
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Porn addiction
And having extreme sexual passivity in order to appear more feminine.
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>>41459167
i had a boy do this to me once and it was exactly what i needed
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>>41459144
dissociating 24/7 and lack of self care are common symptoms of dysphoria nona.
fairly quickly after starting hrt, my dissociation and derealization got so so so much better.
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>>41459144
wdym by this i am curious
>>41459167
yeah i'm probably still just deeply untrusting of chasers. regardless, more trans women need to respect themselves, and something about this thread just really set me off lol
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>>41459199
how does one learn self respect when there is nothing respectable about them?
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>>41458890
lot of depression and social alienation gives us incredibly strong attatchments while seeking some kind of escape from the world via a partner. you cant really escape responsibilities if youre a dom, because your responsibility is your partner.
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>>41459178
So lucky, I wish I had a boy who'd do this to me
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>>41459223
know your inherent value. you may not agree with it, but at a baseline, someone finds you attractive because ur a tranny. now think about all of the hardships you have overcome, how intelligent you must be to navigate the hostile environment of today, all for the prospects of a better life. it might sound like nothing to you, or like a cliche 'ur so brave because ur a fag!!!', but you are seriously valuable and attractive because of your circumstances, and definitely more. that is literally just a baseline
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im very used to the experience of being wary of yet another heartbreak, falling for someone and thinking they won’t degender me, and then being rejected and seen as purely a third gendered tranny friend. im not allowed to have a sexuality
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>>41459288
i dont want someone to find me attractive because im a tranny, i want someone to find me attractive because im a woman. if me being a tranny is what makes me valuable to them i dont want them near me because its a constant reminder of the thign i hate most about myself.
and i havent overcome hardships or even deal with a hostile environment. i always take the easy way out and im transitioning in secret. no one knows, no one will know, and ill either kill myself or move far far away before i ever girlmode in public.
theres nothing respectable about me lol. maybe your words could be helpful to some lurker.
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>>41458890
Attacement and abandonment issues and the belief that no one will ever love me makes me jump at the possibility that someone will prove me wrong (whic I hope is happening kurrently)
Also I like how it feels when a man treats me that way

>>41459167
Dam ,need pikrel and also I literally do that with feeling like shit kuz I started HRT one year later than I kouldve kuz I was stopped

>"I like being a super bubbly and submissive person, and I think it's fun that I have boyish
interests but girly behaviors. I hope I can make a boy very happy one day. I long for it."
!Yes
Based anon
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>>41459390
yea this is not a very easy mindset to have. you want to be respected as a woman, but make no attempt to be seen as one? i'm sorry but it will only ever come around to you if you learn to embrace your nature. you're trans, and this will never change. however! i think it is respectable to transition in silence, and i think you have learned a lot of admirable things due to this extraordinarily unique circumstance lol. u can dismiss my compliments, but you are inherently valuable, so don't kys xd
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>>41459447
>Attacement and abandonment issues and the belief that no one will ever love me makes me jump at the possibility that someone will prove me wrong (whic I hope is happening kurrently)

aww hope it works out
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>>41458890
It's not that I'm submissive, more that I desperately want to be able to give myself up to someone. Being able to trust somebody to do whatever they want with me and know I'll be alright would make me so happy
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>>41459390
I think you ultimately have to accept that whoever you are with will necessarily have to find you attractive for being a tranny. The important distinction is that they don't love you BECAUSE you're a tranny, but they love that you ARE a tranny. They love that you are special and different and have changed your life on your own terms to pursue your own happiness. They love your body, and they love the way it is unique. I think coming to terms with being transgender is something that is necessary. I don't mean glorifying it, but rather just accepting that it is what you are, although not necessarily WHO you are. I don't know. I still feel bad that I just can't be a girl, however that comes mostly from not passing, not being biologically male. What makes me happy is being feminine and happy and beautiful. I've come to find that I don't care if I'm born male or female, it only matters if I'm able to do that to the best of my ability. As it stands now, I'm a boymoder, I need FFS. It makes me sad that I can't assimilate and just be a girl, regardless of what's between my legs. Being able to be just as beautiful and capable as any female even when I'm trans and was born male is honestly like an achievement to me, it makes me proud of myself. It's something to shoot for, not something to feel ashamed of. Life would be easier if I were born female, but I also wouldn't be me, and I think I love the person I'm becoming.
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>>41459810
Pretty sane outlook, honestly
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>>41459199
don't mind me i'm in denial. i have become a recluse and the hope i had to go out into the world and find connection again has gone since stopping hrt

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>>41459185
you're both right. fml
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>>41459268
he grabbed my boob and started playing with it and i couldn't hold it in and started squealing and told me a boy wouldn't react like that
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>>41459810
sonic the hedgehog
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>>41458989
my gender? rootless cosmopolitan
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>>41459086
>why don't they simply be better? are they stupid?
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>>41462109
This stuff is so hot but it's also so empty. Like, no dude, just because I have boobs and am submissive doesn't make me a girl. Reality doesn't work on porn logic.
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>>41465261
what are you talking about
boobs are a female body part
they are for feeding babies
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>>41459144
>many wouldn't feel the need to transition
i agree. i feel like the work beat me into this
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>>41465295
I have boobs because I'm a man who has been on estrogen treatment for an extended period of time. I also have a penis, testicles, and prostate, none of which are female body parts, and my skull is shaped like a man's. Some retard saying "noooo your skin is so soft and you're so short and you have boobies and you're super submissive and feminine" means nothing because none of those things are what makes a woman a woman.
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>>41465356
you should get the pp snipped off
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>>41465356
You’re thinking about it too much anon. Just be who you are. If there’s more that you want or can do then save up and get it done, if not then it sucks but it is what it is. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
t. Normalfag nb doing tourism this board from /vr/ for diyhrt shit
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>>41465456
>Just be who you are
Which is a man with boobs. No one would unironically say I'm a girl unless they wanted to fuck me.
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>>41458890
This >>41458929, plus never having been the object of anyone's affection before, plus: because being feminine, submissive and the object of a man's affection is actually forbidden for anyone growing up as a boy, where as it's thrust upon girls without them wanting it.
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>>41458989
Trans women are the women of women
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>>41458962
I'm not the one you asked that to but yea, mentally ill girls are hot, cis or trans. Plus they also usually have lower standards, which means you can match above your league.
t. bf of a beautiful mentally ill trans girl
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>>41459167
I want a girl I can beat the hell out of like this
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>>41459086
So true
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>>41458890
Don't point it out, that's dangerous information for people to know
Tops now know they can easily instantly seep us off our feet
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>>41459167
You are the ideal and I need you
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>>41468820
Post 'cord, then. I want a bf, but only a based one, preferably European
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>>41458929
this is exactly what it is 99% of the time
>>41459167
>and I think it's fun that I have boyish interests but girly behaviors.
that's one of the few parts about myself that i like too
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>>41468835
I'm not European, I'm American
It's over
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>>41468948
Don't worry anon, I'll love you too. Maybe we'll hit it off c:
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>>41468958
Where are you located though? Across the ocean is probably too much for a ldr.
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>>41469090
I'm American, I live in NC
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>>41469131
I'll add you but I won't be able to talk tonight, I have work tomorrow :/
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>>41469742
Need a smug boymoder so bad
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>>41458890
I've been full time almost 20 years and I'm almost 40 and I still melt in guys hands when they give me a little bit of affection. It's because no one gives me any attention or affection ever. A guy smiled at me today so sincerely and I immediately was like "We should get married".
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>>41469900
Does 20 years give you a pixar milf body?
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>>41470046
Nope. I'm unattractive and I got fat.
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Who wanna play some poker
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>>41470576
Fucking brat, needs boyremoval correction
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>>41470576
Need her to ruin my life
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>>41471433
You're a blessing but now I'm sad daydreaming about what will never be
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>>41458929
this is why I'm so easily convinced to do stuff.. I'm unsure why it took so long for someone to dominate me
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>>41459167
>boyish interests but girly behaviors

are you aware of that trend of fujos online thirsting over CoD/40k characters? i feel like that's the best example of this. I've met women who love night lords
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nice boymoder I just uploaded it to https://boymoders.com
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>>41465556
my master says I'm a girl because he loves me genuinely, not just cuz he wants to fuck, but I'm personally under no illusion that I'm a person, let alone a girl
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>>41465556
Same nb anon here. That’s just your inner /r9k/obot coming out. Genuinely desu I’m someone who IRL sees and knows so many trans people ranging from barely trying to perfectly passing. Unless you can’t perform basic self care your average person is going to gender you correctly even if they clock you.
Nobody unless they’re sexually interested in you is going to pay as deep of a thought as you on these things. If you need get SRS to embrace who you are, I am nb socially and in how I present and carry myself but I still have body issues so I’m looking at taking spiro and some progesterone. It’s about self improvement and self love and overcoming your own doubts. Don’t take your goals away from yourself just because you haven’t met them
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>>41458890
Mixture of trauma and societal transphobia making us deathly afraid of standing up for ourselves
I don't really vibe with the typical submissive aesthetic on /lgbt/ though, I guess I grew out of it, I prefer something a bit more elegant
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>>41458962
>mentally ill girls are hot?

"mentally ill" yes.
you know how they say avoid the lurid hair color, facial piercings, self-mutiliating types, feminists. That they indicate daddy issues, bpd, etc. Its free real estate and Im blackstone.



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