Are you a libertarian? This political position is for some reason really unpopular among xitter and reddit trannies.
>>41461171why do mentally ill freaks never iron their shitty chinese-made flags? i've noticed this trend across the entire political (and likely the autism) spectrum, from MAGA flags to trans flags to nazi flags to this. how hard is it to use a fucking IRON?
>>41461171Transgenderism can only thrive under a capitalist superstructure.
no one is a libertarian anymore except pedophiles and people that think vaccines contain microchips which are somehow satanic that are also pedophilesyou can be NRX if you are a kike trying to infiltrate nationalist circles to get them to send heaps of money to israel and cool it with the antisemitic remarks or a neoliberal with an inexplicable interest in cutting welfare programs for the blacks and negroid craniometrics
>>41461171What does it mean to be a libertarian?
no im a stalinist
>>41461181Based and ancap pilled.
>>41461181in china you can get srs for free kys
>>41461214china is more of an unregulated capitalist economy than any western state
>>41461187Being a stalinist AND a tranny is so retarded. Do you even know what he did to fags when he was in charge?
>>41461250the same thing every western state was doing to them at the time? putting them in asylums and giving them chemical sterilization
>>41461171Right libertarianism is retarded. Left libertarianism is based. Ancaps would get their teeth smashed in by actual anarchists because corporate structure will inevitably devolve into statism which would inevitably devolve into fascism. The right libertarians tend to be pretty 90iq chuds while the left ones can discuss theory far better than I can
>>41461272>Left libertarianismleft libertarianism is an oxymoron
>>41461321reddit
>>41461177That plastic shit will melt
>>41461325it doesnt even make sense theoretically how can you claim you want freedom for individuals but you also want a state lol
>>41461341how can you have capitalism without a state?
>>41461171I used to be libertarian,now a days I just don't give a single fuck about politics or economy.
>>41461171Yea am a libertarian but an actual libertarian, not a psyoped bubble dwellerhttps://youtu.be/97slLgT48dM?si=NNTE3GVUt0kue_kt
>>41461321Psyoped, your worldview is wrong on every level. All right wing politics mean is move wealth upwards and protect the rich.
>>41461358How do you define capitalism? If capitalism is defined as the economic system where people can freely exchange goods and services, then I don't see the point of a state.
>>41461384generalized commodity production
>>41461376nta im a socialist but left wing libertarianism is still retarded
>>41461388Why do you need a state for that?
>>41461404how are you going to assure a general unified system of customs where i accept that the goods you want to sell dont actually simply belong to me?
>>41461321No it isn't, right wing libertarianism is an oxymoron if anything. Libertarianism is a word that was originally synonymous with anarchist. So, it's very possible to justify abolishing unjust hierarchy while believing in some form of market socialism, because from their POV there is no unjust hierarchy, no private property rights as a basis for statism to evolve. Right wing libertarianism is straight up cope that "without the Government, there is no unjust hierarchy (though they never use that phrasing, this is what they contend) because corporate rights are individual rights" which is fucking stupid to anybody with a brainstem. I don't particularly consider myself any form of libertarian but left libertarians are at least reasonable actors, right libertarians are very vibe code chudbuckets & a conglomerate of the most annoying & in denial Americans on the planet.
>>41461419*prevent me
>>41461424>Libertarianism is a word that was originally synonymous with anarchistno one cares, language evolves >Right wing libertarianism is straight up cope that "without the Government, there is no unjust hierarchy (though they never use that phrasing, this is what they contend) because corporate rights are individual rightsLibertarians don't believe that, the reason they oppose governments is because they believe that in the absence of the government they can fill that power vacuum and basically become the government themselves dummy
>>41461424you cant allow a system that allows for an accumulation of commodities i.e a market and prevent the formation of unjust hierarchies without an external force to prevent such a thing from happening which would be a state and in the mind of anarchists itself an unjust hierarchy. Libertarianism was a term invented by french anarchists to evade criminalization of being an anarchist - it simply means anarchist, and during the period when the term itself was invented would of principally be used by ansyns. It doesn't mean market anarchist which is a fringe position in the already fringe position of anarchism that effectively no one holds except people on political forums that have mashed together idiosyncratic blends from wikipedia.
>>41461419What are you even talking about? This sentence does not make any sense.
>>41461462so you just want a privatized state unaccountable to nominally democratic political intervention?
>>41461488how will you assure that i respect your property rights?
>>41461384Capitalism needs the state at every level. At the most simple is the enforcement of property. Without this you will need to enforce property yourself. Without legal framework.And this isn't everything capitalism needs from the state, it also needs a labour market, central currency and contract law. Capitalism would simply collapse into feudalism without the state.
>>41461496Private guards, tall fences, I can figure it out.
>>41461501Okay, I don't want your kind of capitalism then.
>>41461506you will hire private guards in every single country you sell or buy products to protect your property? every single company will hire private guards to protect their property rights across the globe? or do you also support regressing to a technological state prior to the advent of international trade.
>>41461530>you will hire private guards in every single country you sell or buy products to protect your property?That's just the cost of business. In the absence of a state that would be the only tax I would have to pay, so it still wouldn't be that bad.
>>41461525you don't want capitalism dear, you're just psyoped by billionaires with feelgood explanations to keep voting for them to give everything to the rich. If you wanted capitalism you'd be ecstatic at the state of the world.
>>41461548If there was no state making government contracts with private companies I wouldn't have to give anything to billionaires.
>>41461424Idiot, a 'corporation;' is a state created legal structure that gets special treatment from the government, such things wouldn't exist in a libertarian system. >>41461376If the 'collective' can 'vote' to interfere with the lives and property of individuals you don't have anarchy.
>>41461171Yes, I voted straight ticket libertarian in my country's most recent election. I understand that they will never win anything, and it wouldn't really work as a system of government, but I'd rather not give my vote to the major parties here because they all suck
>>41461542Pretty costly, you will have to have a security force strong enough to deter the standing armies of every single other nation's army on earth, police international shipping lanes to prevent piracy, you'll need a legal corps large enough to interface with every other country on earth's regulatory and legal framework or otherwise have a security force powerful enough to invade any nation where your property rights may be transgressed against. Dare i say this security force might be an Army? Presumably your business couldn't exist in a lawless warzone either so it would have to provide local security, you'll need a workforce aswell but workforces have a history of getting a little cheeky from time to time so your security force will also need to keep them in check you know if they decided to break the NAP. This "army" of yours would also sort of resemble police. Except unlike the army, or police, their is absolutely zero civilian over site they answer solely to one man, somebody that can dictate their behaviour.
>>41461558It's those same billionaires that support your ideology, I wonder why.
>>41461558I bet you're also agaisnt "globalization" and such, completely unaware that neoliberalism is your ideology in practice, it's your thinkers having taken over the world.Again, you should be ecstatic.
>>41461583whats to stop me from creating a private business that exactly matches a corporation in form?
>>41461631I'm not a neolib
>>41461631Yeah libertarians are just neoliberals that are to brain dead retarded to figure out their heroes won and they are serfs in the scheme of it, they are the capitalists in the fantasy. Every single economic think tank, advising both sides of politics are singing praise to Hayek and Friedman.
>>41461617They support it too because nobody likes the state
>>41461638you're an ayn rand fan type retard
>>41461649Ayn Rand is my queen
>>41461171>fake ideology with 0 ideological or philosophical depthi am not because i am not in the top 5% most wealthy people in my country
>>41461647Not true
>>41461690yea exactly, your ideology took over the world. You won. but you can't be happy, cuz it sucks. So your delusion has to deepen.
>>41461171>how many Jews are nazis? >this political position is really unpopular for some reasonYou’re not the brightest one are you?
>>41461171no. i honestly do feel at home in any of the political things. i like a little bit from all of them. i cant really dig my heels into 1
>>41461695you're schizophrenichow is libertarianism bad for trannies?
>>41461694>>41461647Neo'liberalism' is an imperialist authoritarian ideology that promotes government intervention in the economy, it has nothing to do with libertarianism.
>>41461716right wing libertarianism is just marketing. IT IS neoliberalism in practice. Actual libertarianism is anarchic, and anarchism is far left.
>>41461725>everything i like is far leftAnarchism is not far left, It's apolitical. If you wanna call Anarcho-Capitalism far left then I guess you do you.
>>41461171>why are so many trannies/gays XYZ? Autism. The answer is always autism.
>>41461692of course its true you are scum on their shoe, the libertarians where advising coca-cola on their death squads to murder trade unionists, south american dictatorships and off-shoring domestic union jobs to "communist" china to be worked by pressganged mingong in sweatshops and liquidating the welfare state. Friedman and Mises is the god of every economics department in the west. You have fed chairs like Alan Greenspan openly saying Austrian Economics is the one true faith.
>>41461186Libertarian beliefs:-Diddling kids is every man's god given right-The drugs I like should be legal, the drugs other people like should be grounds for summary execution-Racism isn't real, unless someone says "happy holidays" or "feliz navidad" in which case this is literally white genocide and now I know how the slaves felt-Big government sucks, except when it's hurting people I don't like, in which case it should get hundreds of billions in annual funding-Welfare is bad, except when it's subsidies and bailouts for stuff I personally benefit from in which case it's good old common horse sense
>>41461754>Libertarianism is the strawman i made in my head
>>41461737the word is literally an- -archy 'without hierarchy', it is quintessentially far left. Its also why anarcho capitalism is not anarchist or even sensical 'A hierarchy without hierarchy'
>>41461725Ignoring the fact that actual libertarians constantly criticise neoliberalism no form of collectivism is anarchic. Anarchy means a voluntary society.
>>41461786no it doesn't, it literally means without hierarchy
>>41461747This is not true at all in the west (looking at France), maybe only in the US and even in the US the "libertarianism" has been perverted into a shitty statist caricature of what it actually entails.
>>41461796That's what it meant at the start, but now it only means without state.
>>41461796If the 'collective' can interfere with individuals you have a hierarchy.
>>41461171malebrained af
>>41461767Which one of those are you contesting? There is not a lolbert alive that doesn't believe every single one of those
>>41461706Heh. You definitely aren’t a bright one. Reminds me of that brown politician, Vivek, standing on stage saying some dumb right wing stuff. And then a white kid comes up to ask him a question abd basically says “we don’t accept you even tho you are licking our boots and asses”. Kind of funny to see his face shift.
>>41461886The ones where the lolbert supports the state.
>>41461898vivek was shady anyways. something not right about him. you're better off with your local reggaeton rasta
>>41461918You do support the state though, you just conveniently ignore it because you consider those roles of the state to be non-negotiableYou're like one of those /diy/ hobbyists who calculates the cost of a project based on materials alone and not the $20k worth of tools and other essentials needed to complete the project and then acts all smug and superior because you do shady math
>>41461177Because it's a griftThose are fresh bought flags to pose with to get some fast clout
There was exactly one smart Libertarian and his name was Hans Herman Hoppe and that's only because he reasoned himself into becoming a monarchist
>>41461936You’re cute. I’ve met those types, very politically outspoken but are rather small, feminine and frail in person.
>>41461171Use to be, now im just more libertarian version of ya avg republican Although I think hrt should be legal at 16 since thats when I started
>>41461214no you can’t >t. knower
>>41461171im not but this one ishe is delulu if he thinks his coworkers have any amount of respect for him
>>41463012Would
