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> I am a 25 years old gay man from France.

I am terrified to use Grindr.

Imagine someone would use the geolocalization and track me. My biggest fear is not to die, but that this person come to my house and kill my family members.

I am being insane, or just intelligent enough to be conscious of the danger ?
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>>41465488
no it's a valid concern anon. spoof your location to somewhere nearby but not close enough to your home. You'll drive a bit or if you are in a populated area you can do that since it's harder to track. do things online(but beware of doxxing yourself).
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Any of these apps are a disaster for your privacy but depending on your country you're already profiled and tracked by a gorillion other systems. I don't know the situation in France. There's really no escaping it, but I can understand where you're coming from.

Regarding being killed by a stranger, yeah that's a little bit overboard. Those kinds of things happen but you could also inadvertently offend someone on the paris metro and get murdered.
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>>41465488
>muh house
You know you don't have to do that, right? Also have you thought about attending gay events irl?
Inb4 Paris: if you're from Paris, disregard the above. All of your fears are justified.
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>>41465488
Wasn't there another gay hookup app where you had to select hubs instead of your location?
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>>41465488
I dont live in france so idk how bad it really is
but I've heard muslims are going wild over there, I would be paranoid too
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>>41465498
I have thought about doing that.

But what if I make a mistake and forget to uninstall the app after each use.

My whole family would be murdered because I wanted to date another man... It's so fucked.
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>>41465547
>But what if I make a mistake and forget to uninstall the app after each use.
what do you mean? You don't install it on your phone you install it on a virtual phone. so your location won't be anywhere near your house. The only option is to track you on your way home from the date.
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you should be more worried about AIDS or divine judgement
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>>41465503
If I am the only one being killed, I am okay with that

>>41465528
>but I've heard muslims are going wild over there, I would be paranoid too
I am mostly afraid of mentally ill gay men

>>41465601
>You don't install it on your phone you install it on a virtual phone
What if I make a mistake trying that ? I would get my whole family murdered by a psychopath
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>>41465841
Don't worry, plenty of muslims are mentally ill gay men. After all, they're taking after their pedo prophet. They're also the group most likely to kill you, so.
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>>41465830
>you should be more worried about AIDS
It doesn't get your family killed

>or divine judgement
It also doesn't get your family killed
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>>41465895
i don't think you've seen divine justice nigga
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>>41465841
You're not going to be killed you neurotic weirdo, you're in france not iraq
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I don't use Grindr because people on it just suck, it didn't go that far, but I understand your concerns
I'm more worred about getting pozzed tbf
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>>41465488
you're somehow more immature than 16 year old me looking for attention
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>>41466013
There are many ways to protect yourself from HIV

>>41466005
How can you be sure ? I can get rid of these thoughts about my family getting murdered. It’s too stressful. What if I feel sure that I uninstalled the app and cannot be tracked anymore, but in reality the app is still there ? What if there is a bug and my profile is constantly shown with my location ? For years my profile would be there, and chances of getting my family targeted over the years will “add up”
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>>41466707
You need to talk to a psychiatrist. I'm not saying this in the meme way, I mean this is something you should get professional help for. Talking about it on 4chan is unlikely to make it better
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>>41466724
And what is a psychiatrist going to do ?

They only give pills to people, usually.

Many people are okay with danger and risking death. It is actually the norm. Most people are okay with dying. They don’t care about fighting wars, aging, getting fat, drinking alcohol, cigarettes, drugs…

I need to review the danger by accumulating the knowledge of everyone here.
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>>41466833
>They don’t care about fighting wars, aging, getting fat, drinking alcohol, cigarettes, drugs…
You don't understand other people at all. Go to a psychiatrist and a psychologist
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Just date me nona
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>>41466005
>you're in france not iraq
does he know?
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>>41465488
chill out grindr is fun it's just like chilling on a discord server but with hot faggots in your area
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>>41466833
The thing that sucks about mental illness is you really have to take responsibility for it yourself, doctors aren't going to be able to make it go away, they certainly aren't going to give you any emotional support, but they can get you access to meds and methods that you can try, maybe you have to try a few different things, or learn how to make these things work for you. It will probably take some work on your part, and some openness to trying the mainstream tools, and understanding that you may have to accept imperfect solutions, partial solutions, side effects that you might not enjoy.

People get frustrated when it turns out not to be like an antibiotic you can pop to kill all the bad stuff inside your mind and then never think about it again. Mental drugs aren't like that, they're flawed and complicated, and the best case scenario is you're on that drug for life once you find one that works. And by works I mean one that you are willing to tolerate its side effects in exchange for its benefits.
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>>41466852
iraq isn't in north africa
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>>41466874
In my area its all fat pink haired enbies or 60yo dudes
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>>41466930
i have like ten *new* hung tops sliding in my dms every day just asking directly if i wanna fuck and they're all within two miles of my home.
i'm kinda overwhelmed desu
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>>41466845
>>41466923
I understand.

But could you at least tell me why should I see a psychiatrist ? I find it weird to just tell people such things without explaining yourself.

>>41466874
So for you Grindr is safe ?
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>So for you Grindr is safe ?
oh absolutely
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>>41466987
Because you have an intense and completely irrational anxiety that's preventing you from living your life. Its one thing to worry about getting hurt in a bad hookup, and a completely different thing to have crippling anxiety and guilt that your entire family will get murdered because you installed an app millions of people use
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>>41466987
>But could you at least tell me why should I see a psychiatrist ? I find it weird to just tell people such things without explaining yourself.
You said that you are experiencing overwhelming terror at your whole family being stalked and killed for using a gay dating app, in France. This is not a realistic outcome. I'm not going to try to explain to you rationally how I arrived at that belief. But I am certain most anyone you would talk to in an everyday setting would concur. You are experiencing paranoid delusions, quite literally. You should be worried about getting AIDS or meeting a weirdo who creeps you out. Or some unpleasant and disgusting sexual encounter. Those would be rational things to worry about. Not your family getting stalked and killed.

A psychiatrist is the commonly accepted solution to a problem like this, in the context of modern western society. In the past perhaps you would have been sent to a priest or a shaman. But today it's a psychiatrist. You may be told to work with a therapist as well, I don't know. But I do have experience with mental illness, both personally, and family and friends. It sucks but at least we have words for these things, you aren't the first person to have suffered from this.
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>>41467050
>>41466987
And btw I'm not saying you need drugs, maybe you do, maybe you don't, I have no idea. But you're experiencing a medical (psychiatric) condition that is adversely affecting your life. That's what those guys get paid the big bucks to deal with.
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>France
Where ?
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>>41467191
lmao
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>>41467195
I'd date you
(And maybe off you and your family members, so you won't have to use grindr)
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>>41465488
You shouldn't start dating until you know you can defend yourself or your family from bad actors. Learn Judo.
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>>41467025
>>41467050
I see.

>>41467050
But it’s interesting that you consider worrying about HIV as a normal concern, despite the existence of condoms, PrEP and more. Even if the person was infected with HIV, there is less than 1% of getting it if you weren’t protecting yourself. Also you consider that creeps do exist on Grindr and that is a normal concern to worry about them. What makes you think they cannot come to kill my family ?

If I would be the only person in danger, that would be okay. But having your family killed just because you want to date people is so horrible. I would be such an horrible person, it would have been better for my family members that I wasn’t even born.

People are getting killed on a daily basis, even in France. I am not counting murder attempts.

Humans are still in an archaic primal state where they follow their most animalistic instincts. Look at how people are obsessed with politics despite being obese (in a state of accelerated death). If they weren’t animalistic, they would focus more on losing weight rather than chimping out about trans athletes for example (MAGA obese people).
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>>41467231
It’s impossible to do that. A malevolent person could use a firearm. They could also set up a trap, or use explosives. They could also try burning a whole house at night. Violent people never lack creativity when it comes to satisfy their animalistic tendencies.
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>>41467272
So, you see how you've educated yourself about prep, condoms, and so on? You can do the same thing with psychiatric stuff.

And yes, HIV is a very normal concern, it's commendable that you've been proactive about that. You can be proactive about other health concerns too.
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>>41467390
>>41467272
And (sorry for the repeat posting) just one more reminder, mental health is not like prep (an easy answer to a straightforward external threat). There's not much else like it, since you're self-managing. If you get prescribed meds or a therapist, and you don't click with the meds, or the therapist is an asshole and you need to find a different one, of course give it time (especially meds) but also keep an open mind and consider it all just a toolbox that you try to find the tool that works but don't give up if one doesn't.



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