>be me>5'10" height>14" biacromial>30" underbust>27" waist>37" hipsWould I make it if I pooned out?
>>41466658>5'10 Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>41466658waist and shoulders are a problem, but the height is very promising
>>41466699waist would fill out on t, right?>>41466662that's like my only masculine physical feature
>>41466658Lowkey cooked
>>41466711not that much by itself. you'd have to do core work to bulk it out, same with delts for the shoulders.i recommend a low dose of T anyway, just for the mental effects
the waist is promising especially in tandem with the underbust, these stats could easily already imply a more masculine figure
>>41466658you have more masculine measurements than me when i started hrtt. mtf
>>41466658Don't be stupid anon. "making it" isn't about your physical frame. It's a losing move to begin with to even think about that. What's the size of the fight in YOU right now, natty as you are?
>>41466658What concerns do u have most? Aka the things you want to change most
>>41466789what are the mental effects?>>41466820not very big desu>>41466828I worry I'm just gonna look like a weird femboy.
>>41467194Well what’s ur goal? It’s easier to work towards smth if u have a goal in mind, like an image of a physique you want ideally
>>41467320I just want to try being a man ig especially since I'm not feminine according to >>41466810
>>41466658>5'10" hotrest isn't ideal but if your face is masc enough just work out and ygmi
>>41466658my exact measurements as a troon, i don't think my body would pass much without boobs. just get rid of those and wear boxy clothes you're 5'10" ffs
>>41467379As others have suggested, you should start working out. Exercises that hit obliques will widen ur midsection, exercises that workout the pec have been known to slightly shrink breasts. And there are others. Like I said, if u show an image of ur ideal physique I could help you more
>>41467379lol fuck u i try to help and u call me a man
>>41467478>my measurements No they ain’t lmao
>>41467661you're retarded or coping if you think those are unobtainable. 14" biacromial means 16.5"-17" bideltoid which is just called not being a fatass unless you got ogre shoulder genes. .73whr isn't ridiculous either and i frequently get mogged on this very board
>>41466658am MTF but can someone judge my measurements?>5'8>13 inch biacromal>32 underbust>30 inch waist>42-43 inch hipsam pretty fat right now, so things should get better when I lose weight
>>41467932Post unsee?
>>41466662Can you describe for me why you dislike being short, and/or what you’d enjoy about being taller?
>>41467946no can do, sorry :< i just want someone to judge my body measurements, I need ffs I know that
>>41467997I meant phoot of ur body. Some people can hold the same measurements differently
>>41467991I would like to be more physically imposing and look less like a child for all of eternity.
>>41467619what?? I said I want to be a man. I didn't call anyone a man
>>41467661>>41467946>>41468087Most troons don't measure biacromial correctly.14" biacromial is narrower than the average American woman (14.4") who is 5'5", not 5'10".13" biacromial at 5'8" height is well into deformed territory.
>>41468276hey its really hard to do on your own
>>41468290It is tricky, I'll give you that. It's much easier if you have someone to help you.Regardless, the number of troons who post biacromial and height combinations which should not be clocky and then talk about how their shoulders clock them indicates that getting it wrong is common.
>>41468321is there a better way to do it? I'm like 90% sure I got it wrong, but I'm pretty confident they're rather narrow
>>41468352Calipers will ensure you're getting the actual straight length distance. But really, doing it yourself is fiendishly difficult because manipulating the measuring device will involve moving your shoulders.Make sure you're measuring from the outermost ends of the bony parts, too. Not from the tops. From the sides.
>>41468101Are there specific moments it bothers you? Like when you have to look up at a guy to make eye contact? Or when you can’t reach something?
>>41468377far as I'm aware, you find the flat bit and then go to the end where it raises to a point to a small extent, is that correct?my bidelt is 16.5 or so using the ole sliding door method if that helps indicate anything
>>41468484Real answer: you need to match the measurement method of the anthropometric dataset you're comparing yourself to. If it has a published methodology, then great. If it doesn't, then you're out of luck.I typically go with the outermost edges because I find those easier and more consistent to hit. Pic related.How much bideltoid differs from biacromial depends on how big your shoulder muscles are. Biacromial is the one that matters for passing potential.
>>41468563I remeasured and I THINK I got about 15 and a half, I feel like maybe I should kill myself
>>41466662You and I should kill this guy
>>41468464yes haha you get off on humiliating shorties you are so original and creative.
>>41468930Well, that would be a silly thing to do.Let's do some math.https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_11/sr11_249.pdf has anthropometric data for the general US population, including height and biacromial breadth.I don't know your race, so I'll go with the overall figures.The average adult female height is 161.7cm. For adult males it's 175.5cm.The interquartile range for adult female biacromial breadth is 35.3cm–38.1cm. For adult males it's 39.6cm–42.6cm.Let's say for the sake of argument that your biacromial is 15.5" exactly. That's 39.4cm. That puts you below 75% of adult males.We can't do a direct comparison to the adult female range, though, because adult females are on average shorter than adult males. We need to look at the biacromial INDEX i.e. biacromial breadth divided by height.For adult males, the interquartile range is 0.226–0.243. For adult females, it's 0.218–0.235. For you, assuming you're the average male height, it's 0.225. Right in the middle of the female range.Once you adjust for height, male and female biacromial have significant overlap.What typically makes male shoulders look bigger is a combination of greater height giving a wider frame in absolute terms, larger delts, and narrower hips.
>>41466658Real talk, how do u have basically the same dimensions as me, a 25 y/o androgynous lateshit mtf.Like i always worried i'm a bit too bricky (5'9", 28 inch waist, 36 inch hips) but then ur apparently the same build so uhhhhhhh congrats on an androgynous bodytype i guess. From the sound of it you'd totes make it cuz we're not talking like massive hourglass figure and insane hips. Face is probably the only biggie but ftms seem to have an easier time since facial hair can pull massive weight there.
>>41469065https://anthro.cs.uni-freiburg.de/#colx=100&coly=13 tells me im way out of the average range
>>41469422I don't know what your height is, so I don't know what your results are.
>>41466658you mog me and I'm stealth and get hit on by women ygmi
>>41469060No, desu I fantasize about being shorter and getting humiliated and bullied by bigger menBut I’m sure it’s equally annoying either way, sorry
>>41466658>5'10"ywnbaw>poon outoh, go ahead
