Must the love between an estrogenized gay man and an unestrogenized gay man be so forbidden?
it shouldn't be that way
>>41467604Only if the estrogenized gay man doesn't pass as a woman. The one in your picture doesn't.
>>41468347passing is immaterial I'm talking about gay men who take estrogen and socially identify as males regardless of their appearance
>>41468742If you can't pass as female then you should strive for physical masculinity.
>>41468759>you should strive for physical masculinityon whose orders, Stalin?
>>41468759ew
>>41468759by this logic, all feminine men should transition into girls
>>41469176Yes. That can be a winning move for extremely feminine males.
>>41469204So you think all peoples identities should be limited to their secondary gender characteristics
>>41469259If they want to fight against their nature, then that's their prerogative, but they'll likely have a bad time.
>>41469288what nature is that?
>>41467604Im an unesteogenized gay male and I want an esteogenized gay male as my bf/gf
>>41470403based
>>41467604Why would a gay man be estrogenized and call himself a "man"? Your scenario doesn't make sense (like most tranny-related topics)
>>41472594because they don't identify as a woman but enjoy taking estrogen
>>41467604I'm an estrogenised gay male in a relationship with a non-estrogenised gay male. From the outside, we look like a regular gay couple. >>41472594Because I am not a woman and even if I was, I would not pass as one, nor could I live up to the expectations of being a woman. I am six feet tall and like being a homosexual male.
>>41472640what do you have in common, besides being gay?
>>41469176out of my 3 femme exes 1 transitioned, 1 became nb (on e), and 1 is still a feminine man but is clearly approaching the breaking point(becoming more feminine)i dont blame them, they all talked about wanting to be pregnant at one time or another, with so much sadness, even masc bottoms have told me thatthank you god for making me a top, i could have been in so much psychological distress
>>41469176not saying they should but for some reason I feel disgusted by those feminine men. It feels wrong. idk why.
>>41472679are you disgusted by feminine women?
>>41472649I like his body, voice and his smell. We have compatible personalities, we are not very loud/extroverted and prefer watching silly youtube videos together in bed, or cooking instead of partying. We are both kinda dorky. Politics align, too.
>>41472685no. tho I dont like plastic bimbos. but im not disgusted.
>>41472740sounds like misandry then, you hold men to standards you don't hold women and you enforce masculinity as an obligation for males
>>41472756maybe because they remind me myself before trooning. tho I wont deny I'm a bit misandristic.
>>41468759WARNINGWARNINGZOGSLAVE DETECTED
>>41470403wya
I am exactly this. Idk mascing up and spending hours in the gym every day just never seemed to come naturally to me. Spending hours in front of the mirror and making myself as pretty as possible comes absolutely naturally tho.I'm just an extremely vain and narcissistic bottom desu altho I should start working out too.
>>41473825lets get married
>>41473849ok
>>41473810what's a zogslave?
>>41475853me
