just say the crudest things about femalekind you can think of - they deserve it
>>41470964Women are very scary and dangerous. The issue is we’ve deluded ourselves to think that it’s men that are the rapists when really it’s women. I have been violated several times in my life and only once was it by a man, every other time it was by women. What’s scariest is the fact that no one believes you because women are “harmless”. They have all this “fight like a girl” shit, they’re literally TELLING YOU they’re DANGEROUS but you REFUSE to listen. I recently got a job and I got a look at the workplace and it seems majority women, I’m scared for my life.
>>41471282did anyone believe you when you told them a woman had raped you?
>>41471333I was a kid so my family believed me, cause I came home sobbing. The other run in I’ve just never told anyone aside from close friends, I don’t see a need to since it was just online grooming.
>>41471383Same anon, adding on, no one else believed me though. When it came to the first one, maybe it’s cause we were around the same age but everyone other than my family insisted I was lying.
>>41471394do you think things have changed since then?
>>41471438Do you mean in regards to believing victims of women? No, in fact, I believe it has gotten worse. I’m lucky to also be a women, so it’s easier to believe me even if my aggressor is a woman. I weep for the male victims of assault.If you mean in terms of my mental health, I guess. I used to cope via romanticizing the shit out of violent rape, now I cope by imagining scenarios where, despite it looking like rape, I actually have full control of the situation and completely consent. Even though I say “no” I really mean yes and my “assailant” knows that. It feels comforting cause I could leave if I wanted to, but I choose to stay. I’m not being forced to, I’m finally in control.
>>41471575>to also be a women
>>41470964they're extremely childish and gross their body is constantly leaking pee and blood. They are selfish and amoral schemers. I always wanted to be a woman, but my own idea of a woman, someone who is emotionally mature, smart, an adult. But real women aren't really like that. I want to be something that doesn't even exist.
>>41471579Ya. Can I not hate women and be a woman?
foids never cry over anything that actually matters. No sarah, seeing a man passed out on his couch with his dong out is not rape. He did not rape you. You're a grown ass woman with tits and vagina. act like it.
As a rechudlican, I believe transwomen often earn the right to be called women. Cis women just rest on their laurels.
>>41471660well yeah, actions speak louder than words, if you view imitating them as worthwhile that says more than you verbally denouncing them
>>41471709>imitatingBy being a cisgender woman? Are you saying, anon, that if I was a real woman-hating chud then I’d transition?
>>41471745>a cisgender womantits or gtfo
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>>41470964i dont think this is misogyny, because i think theres a distinct undercurrent of acknowledgement of this and plenty of nods to at least a vague awareness of this in certain female authors butthere is a distinct pattern of female predation that is not acknowledged at all by society. in fact, society likes to enable it, because its essentially there to do the generative work of it in terms of producing certain useful traumas and resulting concepts of self. in an abstract sense, a womans social role is to embody sex, and a mans violence. this embodiment of sex is not merely object, but also agent; it is the role of women specifically to create, enforce, carry out, and control sex. sex here is not merely the act, but the concept, the norm, the physical matter of it. sex is the distinction between boys and girls, its relation, its codes and concepts and metaphors and expressions. this role is internalised and plays a key aspect in how women engage with children. acting on this role it becomes the job of mothers to enforce maleness on sons and femaleness on daughters. this role is accomplished first by the usual means of indoctrination and gentle pressures, rewards, etc, but it also has a punitive dimension. deprivation, assault, sexually active expressions and behaviours ranging from comments about anatomy and behaviour and preferences to outright sexual assault and rape are all tools that are available to women in this regard, and many do choose to quietly use them behind closed doors. we have plenty of oral documentation of this in quiet discussions about experiences with our friends, we all know that this occurs, but we never articulate it as a systemic issue. the reason for this is that we know its immediately futile to do so. for the most part, society wants this to happen. it regards the act itself as bad, but wishes to at all turns enable it through silence, blindness, and outright ignoring victims where possible.>>41471760anon no dont go there
>>41473227Rape by females is very normalized in society. It’s regarded as “sexy”. Whilst rape by men is all seriousssssI still don’t even know what that guy meant. I must be a trans man to be “one of the good ones”. Funny cause I often find trans men sorta wanting to have their cake and eat it too and they start whining when they get the negative aspects of being perceived as male.
>>41474208what do you mean?
>>41473227incoherent moid nonsense btw
>>41474329yes this is the heterosexual will, thank you for acknowledging that
>>41474348call your mom and ask her how's her day going
>>41474374nah, im happily ignoring her pleading for contact
>>41474381life achievement award
>>41474391the funny thing is your kind always talk like this is something im supposed to care about, but i dont. does it really bother you so much that i dont value having a mother?
>>41474411do you really think i'm a woman? come on
>>41470964Well, they are really kinda dishonest by nature, and can't say anything directly. Instead, they cast delusions with aim to make you do what they want. And when you notice that it follows from their arguments that you should do something entirely different, they can get stuck, as it's actually just gibberish to make you experience specific emotions.
>>41474423no, you think like a straight boy, or at least someone who was one.
>>41470964I don't think its crude, just true that women are not as clear-headed or intelligent as men because of the way they respond to social pressures. Female group-chat brain is very real and one of the worst things in existence. If you can get a woman away from that she becomes pretty reasonable.
>>41474587whatever it takes to get moids to listen to me
>>41474603you havent said anything
>>41470964You denied me sex, so I went gay and voted Trump.You cry as you lose your rights while I laugh as I fuck another femboy and see my bank account grow.
>>41474607that's correct. i only called you a schizo.
>>41470964They never have and never will face true adversity in their lives. They complain about trivial things like child birth and menstrual cramps because they have nothing else to deal with. The bare minimum is accepted of them while they demand the maximum. I, a stealth tranner who has endured ineffable suffering and trauma for my femininity am forced to listen to this drivel while I stay silent because otherwise they will outcast me. Most of them were complicit in their so-called "rapes" in some way. It's glaringly obvious that as a whole women are weaker, slower, and stupider than males. They are feeble, pathetic, backstabbing low people.
>>41474648envying homo
>>41474623yeah thats the idea. i owe much of how i understand this to the work of lesbian authors. everything ive said is an extension of lesbian thought.
>>41474717you just replaced the gender
>>41474730do you even know what im referencing?
>>41474648I will never, ever understand the logic of men who say shit like this:>Most of them were complicit in their so-called "rapes" in some way. and then IMMEDIATELY AFTER say THIS:>It's glaringly obvious that as a whole women are weaker, slower, and stupider than males. They are feeble, pathetic, backstabbing low people.Which fucking one is it bro? Are they the most capable people and in control of every single aspect of your life, or are they the most worthless, feable, pathetic, incapable people on the planet? Pick fucking one.
>>41474778patriarchy?
>>41474789>Which fucking one is it bro? Are they the most capable people and in control of every single aspect of your life, or are they the most worthless, feable, pathetic, incapable people on the planet? NTA what they said isn't mutually exclusive at all and doesn't lead to this conclusion either
>>41474809no, you stupid, under-read motherfucker.
>>41474821matriarchy then.
>>41470964Sex swapped version of this would get deleted in 0.5sThat’s how you know MtTs are men
>>41470964They fucked entertainment media. Which has done more harm to left/Democrat PR than politics has. Most people don't engage in politics, but most people consume entertainment media. All once great IPs have been tarnished with "wokeness," which is progressivism done in a very obvious way, in a way that it doesn't feel organic with the source material. Also, the race swapping of historical figures and peoples in historical depictions. The same people that complain about people complaining about race swapping would complain about white Zulus, for example.
>>41474848wrong again.
>>41474861why don't you just say moids are moids.
>>41474871self-victimization? give me a fucking hint please
>>41470964Most men will die angry and valueless, spending their whole lives grinding for some power and of course never getting it or become totally emotionally checked out because of the constant subtle reminders of their worthlessness (men on average speak far fewer words than women, are less physically and emotionally expressive than women etc. Male hobbies include things like hitting each other or playing games or fishing pretty much anything where you have to shut up and not be seen or socially interact with people. Men can't multitask because they have been taught to tune out a hateful and uncaring world as much as possible) part of the reason for this is that as children the other half of kids gain power much faster (both due to bodily development which makes adults treat them nicer and mental development making them smarter and more efficient than their gendered counter-parts) essentially women gain all their power earlier because they harass and bully less developed children and give them a form of PTSD.
>>41474872Moids are moidsScrotes are scrotesShlongers are shlongers
>>41475093is this how you feel about yourself?
>>41474885i dont really see why i should, youre not going to actually engage with the concept instead of trying to defend whatever ego youve got invested in this.
>>41475176you're trying to say there is another angle where females predate on moids. it's just another narrative. the statistics are clear.
>>41475140oh
>>41475163Yeah in part. I'm gender dysphoria and had female friends as a child
>>41475206no, im saying women collectively form an institution of child grooming, because this is demanded of them, and they identify with it. youre also retarded.
>>41475317why can't you just redefine yourself as a sigma king/queen?>>41475393are you talking about your mother? that your mother groomed you into heteronormativity?
>>41475434no, im talking about a self perpetuating system of abuse of which women are designated the primary agent. thats not a simple vilification of them, theyre identifying with the abuse in the same way many people identify with abuse that happens to them when its normalised, presented as good, and theyre told theyll one day be the one to carry it out themselces.
>>41475525the harms women perpetuate are so baked into our social systems that most people don't even notice them
>>41475525>>41475554i don't understand.
>>41475434>king I can't because I don't want to rule over people/don't have the skills/resources/power to do this. I don't want to be violent I don't want to rule over others. I want to make creative/beautiful things and feel love and enjoy life but I can't anymore. I used to make art, I used to love movies and books and people. I used to dress non-conforming and smile and laugh all the time and even felt kind of pretty sometimes. Now I feel nothing.>queenI'm going bald and have a very male skeleton. It's too late for me.
>>41475644what happened that made you think you can't feel love anymore?
>>41475585>namefag>too autistic to grasp conversationyup
>>41475722explain the part where they are being told to carry something themselves. what are they being told?
>>41475705I hate my body, I'm not interested in being touched or intimacy with a woman because of my hairy skin and ugly face, I can't focus on anything anymore because all I can think about is how bald and hair i'm becoming, everytime you open your mouth to do something fun or cute as a man everyone winces or laughs, feeling like I have to fight for or earn every drop of affection from a woman instead of being liked for my body/personality, being made to feel like a creep or dirty all the time, coming out to my family and having them cry cause they are worried i'll kill myself and my dad telling me how much of an ugly woman i'd be, coming out to my trans friend like 8 years ago and having them say I'd just look like a monster.
>>41475786thats another anon but I think they are just saying women are basically allowed to commit abuse because they are seen as categorically innocent so women notice older women abusing men and realize they can get away with it too
>>41475799if i were you, i would start a moid arc where you get muscles and hussle and become strong so you can get back on those people calling you disgusting.>>41475817yeah that makes more sense.
>>41475868I feel like a lot of trans women live in this imaginary world where they are fixated on the prospect of others thinking of them as disgusting if they don't have the "right" appearance and so their whole lives become compulsively ritualized into trying to avoid disgust reactions in others.
>>41475868>just become the thing you don't want to be and everyone bullied you into being so you can hurt them and gain nothing for yourselfwhat's the point of doing that? I'd still be sad.
>>41476002okay, but there are always some options, right? don't you have dreams?
>>41476258I used to but they are dead. I used to dream of being a literature professor and a woman in a relationship with another woman. Teaching and writing and maybe making something else artsy on the side. Being in touch with my body and enviroment. Having a beautiful, small but well decorated home. Maybe doing yoga or something. A special love that tested the odds of life. That dream is dead, now all i can think about is survival.
>>41476317ive never seen a transbian at yoga
>>41476339That's a small part of the fantasy but what's wrong with that. I just want the kind of body I want and I think those kinds of exercises would be nice. This whole thread is about the kingdom of shame cis womanhood creates and this only supports that point.
>>41476317you aren't worthless, or a creep or a monster.maybe you just have some kind of chemical inbalance like depression. is there something that makes you happy nowadays?
>>41476363transbians are off-putting and as a gay person I feel unsafe around people who think they can magically inhabit gay people's bodies as the opposite sex by taking chemicals
>>41474700>>41474789I knew my post would make some poony tourists cry. Kill urselves
>>41476411>muh culture/qa/ lost
>>41476364Not really. I kind of used to be happy back when I thought I could transition and things could work out. I've heard this point made a lot, being told to just become an ssri zombie and get like a normal job and girlfriend or whatever. There's a person I've wanted to be my entire adult life but it just feels impossible and that if I ever tried I'd just become ridiculous. Hanging up that dream is really painful and it's hard to move on. I guess i'm kind of happy sometimes when I'm around my friends but they're getting older and more established in life, taking less of an interest in me and have never really wanted to do anything with me beyond sitting around and having a couple drinks. >>41476380yeah I know that's the point of my frustration. No matter what I do I'll always be perceived of as creepy or off-putting unless I perform a social category I won't be even a little bit happy in.
>>41474816????? It's the same shit incels say every time>Women control everything on the planet>Women are the most worthless, incapable people on earthPICK. ONE. >>41476411I'm a whole ass dood and I've been here since this board was created. I've been on this stupid fucking site for 15 years. Sorry you have to publicly seeth about not getting pussy bro
>>41476497Im not sure if you didn't read my post or if your comprehension is low but either way you seem very upset by it...is it your time of the month?
>>41476497women are capable of mental manipulation, they can tell men what to do, but they can't make anything on their own
>>41470964back to /pol/ chuddie.
>>41476460why do you want to be a woman though? isn't it enough to be a literature professor with a wife? or do you think that's impossible too?
>>41476548Many reasons I guess, I hate my body, the hair makes me uncomfortable, nobody would ever touch me the way I'd want to be touched or held, people are so much meaner, I hate the way testosterone effects my brain, it makes me a slob and narrows my focus, I don't want to perform the traditional male role of husband and provider, I freak out whenever i look in the mirror, I can see people cringe and wince when I act certain ways, people are less likely to want to spend time with you on anything but just drinking and dicking around. It's a quarter appearance stuff but mostly mental effects. I want to live in a holistic way and above all spend time and connect with others, it's part of my struggle or meaning and what inspired my art back when I could make it. You live with less love and interpersonal connection as a man and artistically/day to day I thrived under those conditions. I lost my creative voice and interest in beauty when I lost the possibility of participating in a certain kind of life.
>>41476521Just answer the question you stupid faggot. Every time you I talk to you dipshits you just circle around the same point. You just want have your cake and eat it too. Is every incel online just a seething Paki?>>41476522Not sure what to say to this. Men enjoy doing what their wives say, believe it or not. Women can't do anything because Niggers like you are obsessed with keeping them down at all costs, for any reason. You Niggers say the same shit about black people, after 250 straight years of oppression and no education. Get your head out of your ass.
>>41476639maybe you haven't found the right friends yet. this world walks over queers like you, it's really not your failure. you know, i feel the same way but i don't wish to be a different gender. i just take it like a coward. you just have to hope to find someone who loves you, some friends who care.
>>41476639>>41476747because it sounds like you're lonely.
>>41475585i know you dont, but i genuinely think you might be too dumb to actually understand it.>>41475817this is a complete misunderstanding of it that strips it of all nuance, weight, and purpose. this isnt abuse for gratification, there is systemic purpose behind it in the same way that patriarchal violence is purposeful.
>>41476747I know it's probably retarded to want to be the other gender and everyone perceives it as stupid. They always do unless you pass and make it work. Maybe I just think the world would treat me differently for better or worse but it'd be something. Idk I probably am just a fucking loser creep who isn't really gender dysphoric and won't do anything about it but it hurts so bad to just see another goal added to the laundry list of failed dreams
>>41476848no, you just want to belong. that's not something to be ashamed of.
>>41476828you have a mental block on believing women could abuse others for personal or sexual gratification
>>41476774Yeah maybe i'm just an incel instead of trans. I mean I've wanted to transition my entire adult life but it's probably just an incel response. I really hate people like you who just say "oh you want a thing, well maybe you are just lonely/have a chemical imbalance/any other thing I can think of that could be wrong with a person other than what you are telling me is wrong and also I'm not going to offer any real help" it seems like that's all the world is, people just tell you various things that are wrong and bad with you or just ignore you and nobody really wants to help you build a life or pursue you dreams. Just kind of a numb world.
>>41476875see there you go again. I tell you something is wrong and you just reduce it to "no you just want belonging." in the hopes that I give up my dream and also don't get belonging because of it.
>>41476923>>41476937but you're not the one who's wrong? follow your dreams, never give up. why do you deny being lonely? i am not trying to dismiss you. you seem to have an experience with that, right?
>>41477037I just want to transtion
>>41477197why tho, i want to be a terrorist
>>41477300I already told you dude. This is what I'm saying you are just another annoying voice on the computer saying stupid things like "DUH WELL I WANT TO BE A TERRORIST"
>>41477317i misread it first time. projected my paranoia, forget it. yeah go for it.
>>41477317so what's with the doubt? do you feel like you're making the wrong choice?
>>41477427I jsut know i'd look liek a freak and maybe i'm just projecting my ideals from lonliness.
>>41477446well, you're trying to get accepted, maybe you don't feel like being valid, like an impostor syndrome. do you think you don't deserve love?
>>41474778please do tell what you are referencingneed something new interesting to read
>>41477480No I think I don't want it because I don't want to be loved as a man.
>>41477525you want to be loved as someone you truly are. yeah, i don't have dysphoria so i don't know what you're feeling. but you shouldn't feel like you deserve to suffer.
>>41476887when a man assaults a woman for personal or sexual gratification, is that all? people arent just people, doing personal things for personal reasons. people are made, ultimately.
>>41477483start with monique wittigs the straight mind
>>41477678pedos aren't made.
>>41477720pedophilia is just malformed natalism. theyre the exact same concept, there is nearly nothing about them that differs besides degrees of literal expression.
>>41477830let's see where your morals get you. you deserve what you tolerate.
>>41477847what
>>41477859karma will catch up to you. words don't matter, and there is no excuse for evil.
>>41477884that wasnt me condoning pedophilia, that was me calling natalism pedophilia wearing a mask of benevolence.
>>41477914yeah, your nihilism made you lose your color vision and see the difference. but we're arguing because you claim they are made.
>>41477944how different is it really? how separate really are the actions if the motivations are the same? are you looking at the truth, or just convenient divisions in language? is the language simply convenient for your desires?
I like them but they don’t like me, that’s fine, I’m not entitled to anyone’s love or attention
>>41477977>people aren't just people, doing personal things for personal reasons.you're implying agency and responsibility is somehow being diminished.
>>41478017i could be, unless i was implying selfhood itself is diminished
>>41478028selfhood is a construct, how could it ever be diminished? by being rejected from social circles? and that's why we're acting the way we are? so everyone is empty and just does what is normalized? where are you going with this?
>>41478087well thats just it. most people think theyre just that, people. they dont think theyre extensions of other things, as actors on behalf of abstract agencies. with that in mind, blame can be attributed along that specific axis of being.
>>41478110is there some kind of incentive for enabling rape other than government outreach? and why should we give those "brainwashed" individuals rights?
>>41475093That's why I'm a NEET. I don't feel like contributing to a confused society.
>>41477689thanks
>>41478131do you enjoy your life? you don't wish for something more?
>>41478127a ton of different ones. theres also often costs for not enabling rapes.>and why should we give those "brainwashed" individuals rights?you are not dolling out rights. the rapists and their enablers are.
>>41478163fine then. does this relate to what that one anon was talking about, some kind of female predation, or are you someone else
>>41478156>do you enjoy your lifeI'm content.>you don't wish for something moreIn my spare time (time being something I have in surplus) I self-taught myself philosophy, and realised ego (while not necessarily a bad thing in itself) is the reason why I was miserable in the past. I believe it's better to be happier with less, than the never-ending grind unregulated ego gets you.
>>41478184it relates to it and somewhat underpins it, but it is its own thing
>>41478243okay. i guess i just don't like that idea because of how close it is to justifying it.
>>41478204sounds like a cope to me, but whatever. so are you happy?
>>41478311>sounds like a cope to meWe're all coping, lil bro.>so are you happyI believe it's best to keep a balanced mind. I'm able to enter an euphoric state (without the use of drugs or alcohol,) but I don't like how it feels. A balanced mind "feels more real."
>>41478360what has alcohol ever done to you? it liberates from living.
>>41478297maybe your idea of justice needs revising
>>41478415tell me more
>>41478379I dislike the use of drugs and alcohol, as they affect the perception of reality to a very significant degree. I like to be as lucid as possible. Meditation refreshes your mind, and make you feel very good, all for free, too.
>>41478425think back to your earliest memories. what were the first things you felt uncomfortable at that others treat as normal? what were the first ways in which adults hurt you. trust in wordless thoughts, trust in feelings that arent meant to be spoken. if you can articulate this, youll know what i mean.
>>41478467alcohol is fine. it makes you more honest, more you.>>41478470i was looking to the ground. at the pavement where plants gasp for air.
>>41478624and do you feel like you might understand?
>>41478647understand what exactly? that "adults" hurt "me"? they were just setting up the next generation, according to what they believe is best. what do you see that i don't?
>>41478685the lack of a difference between these things. that you have no need of any sentiment but that childs.
>>41478713okay, but i still don't feel wronged?
>>41478739why not?
>>41478751why should i? it's not like my parents or society abused me, unlike real victims.
>>41478770why exactly is it youre wanting to doubt yourself?
>>41478624>alcohol is fine. it makes you more honest, more youThat's debatable. Because what constitutes "you" is a very complex question. In philosophy, the concept you're getting at is called authenticity, which some believe being impolite is not their authentic self, despite alcohol making them act differently. Brain damage often makes people more prone to antisocial (the word often misused in place of "asocial") behaviours, which intoxication is essentially temporary brain damage.
>>41479174it's not damage, but healing by dissolution>>41479163doubt myself in what, exactly? i'm fairly confident in my mind.
>>41471745Become my nazi wife bruh that’s the only way to properly disgrace other women.
>>41474208Compare prison race between men and women. Men get raped in prison 32 times less than women. Because women love raping and in prison they have to record those numbers because the victim is a woman and not a man.
>>41479275this. so true.
>>41479275>Because women love rapingamen
>>41478467you can be pretty lucid on weed
>>41474648I mean, trve, but I have to make excuses for them as a man since I am accountable for everything that happens to themalso, you can't hold them accountable and get to plap their poons
>>41480053>also, you can't hold them accountable and get to plap their poonswhy not?
>>41479238>it's not damage, but healing by dissolutionI understand what you're getting at. The first few times were a strange and fun experience. Then it just got boring, and an nuisance because I like going to bed clean, and alcohol compromises your movement. It's like I manage to stay lucid when on alcohol.>>41480011I've never taken drugs. The idea seems scary to me. I've been around drug users, like heroin, cocaine, and weed. But have never had the desire to consume the substances myself.
>>41480650you don't have to take a lotI think a lot of people overdo weed the first few times
>>41480650I can't say getting into drugs is really worth doing if you're perfectly content being sober. A lot of people like alcohol as a social lubricant and use weed to self-medicate for depression or bipolar.
>>41480709drugs are fun
>>41480665>>41480709I just don't like the idea of those types of things. I don't take medicine or tablets either. Even though I've never been prescribed them, as I haven't been to the doctors in decades.
>>41480805They can be. Habitual eats away at the fun though. Still like to treat myself to a little adderall goon sesh every so often
>>41480852stims are not fun
>>41480865They are for meBest goon of my life, adderall mushrooms MDMA and as much weed and dabs my lungs could handleWould I do it again? Yeah probably. Would I do it often? Absolutely not
>>41480217Um, it's alien to them.It's an undesirable place to be.They'll literally just escape and find a new simp that won't compel her to play fair.
>>41480900i hate simp culture
>>41481462I like when simps get shit on by the woman they simp for.
>>41481495i dont
women are naughty by nature
>>41481462Destroying simpage is the only way to improve the quality of women.You have to destroy the demand to reduce the supply.
>>41483622can the quality even be improved?
trans women tend to white knight for female interests
>>41470964But how this lgbt
>>41485466trannies claim being a woman is the best thing a man can be
