Is your philtrum a female length? Or are you cursed with a long philtrum...
>>41478111Yeah i got lip lift in August
>>4147811114mm its literally over
>>41478111Mine is longish but nothing tragic Look at that plastic surgeon from that show Botched, the Jewish looking oneDude has an entire football field under his nose
>>41478166lol dr nassif? When is the next season of botched coming, I miss it.
>>41478111i have a short philtrum 1:3 ratio about 11mm
>>41478111thanks fag this random pic is actually helpful to me>t. /ic/fag
>>41478111I have a 1:1 ratio and I'm FtMPhiltrum luckshit
>>41478111Wait a minute... I thought having a short upper lip was supposed to be masculine because all the hons have that
>>41478632That's bad, men look better with proportionately larger chins.>>41479078Yes, a proportionately smaller philtrum is perceived as masculine.
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>>41478111mine is really bad (20mm). getting lip lift as part of ffs early next year.
>>4147811116.7mm, 1:2 ratio, mtf
>>41479651>16.7mm, 1:2 ratioIs this the expanded facial planes Skullchan talked about>>41479287Wow that's wild i was depressed over my 16 or sth mm philtrum (which was maybe 1:1.5 ratio? Now I'm 12mm and I'm 1:2)
remember if you see a post ffs/liplift tranny irl to always next look at the cranial vault (how far out the skull extends in the back)it isn't altered by surgery and will tell you what you need to knowt. lvl 99 boneclocker
>>41478111My dick is my dicks length
>>41480596You think you cooked but I'm Jewish so you'd just think my dolichocephalic skull is ethnic Which it is, my family has the same with huge 58-59cm skulls for women
>>414781111:3 ftm
>>414781111:2 18mm ftm
>>41481342Maybe more like 20mm
>>41480596Assigned brainlet at birth :(
>>41480582I remeasured and it’s actually dead-on 16mm. How did you shrink your philtrum - lip filler? FWIW a long philtrum alone is not evidence of expanded facial planes
>>41478151>>41478373>>41479651>>41484100Is mine long af or are you all tiny?
>>41484354It seems to depend on ethnicity a fair bit, but if you’re Caucasian (as I am), then we’re all pretty much within range.
>>41479091At least I won't look like this
>>41478111OP pic is completely wrong. Philtrum length is dependant on midface, for a beautiful look, it should be roughly the diameter of your iris, upto 1.2 is acceptaple
>>4148410016mm isn't super long but a 1:2 ratio implies you have a super long chin lolI had a lip lift
mine used to be short and got a couple mm longer from invisalignbut my lower lip got pouty from invisalign too so whatever
>>41485340>longer from invisaligngonna get braces in a few months and thats what im scared of. Always planned a liplift since mine is 14mm, but wanted to wait until after braces
>>41485348i had a really mild overbite/overjet but correcting it was enough to change my lips. i reemember they used to be 13mm but i last measured them a really long time ago so maybe aging was a factor too. the difference with the lower lip is much bigger. it used to be suctioned at rest, ever since invisalign that feels weird and uncomfortable and forced and it naturally rests with a pout now, looks much better. so if you have a similar thing with overbite/overjet you might get a bigger lower lip and then you can get the liplift and it will be a total upgrade