When did people switch from socially categorizing you as a gay man vs seeing you as a woman? How did that feel?
I see all HSTS as homo males on Eeven me!
>>41479773No offense, but this might be down to you not passing so great. In some cases, socially, HSTS become seen more as normal females than gay men.
age 15
>>41480090damn lucky
my ex is one of those drag queens who became a trans woman and it was funny to watch her, in real time, try to tone down the dragginess and make her demeanor more "real woman"
>>41480090when did you start hrt???
>>41484313blockers at 12, estrogen at 13, my mom is a doctor and she advocated on my behalf
absolute sissy thread
>>41485455jealous, agp?
>>41485482no thx I'm still serotoninated from my bfs cumjust think it's kinda cringe to label urself as HSTS and do the whole woman larp when you can just be a gay guy on estrogen
>>41485517please stfu you disingenuous homophobe. first they move the goal post like, oh just be a gay man on estrogen. then they're like, you don't need estrogen, that's unnatural. that's like a body builder on steroids. then the it becomes i don't care if you're gay, just don't be a fag about it.just stfu. you're fucking cunt.
>>41485517I would rather be a woman.
>>41485545not wanting to be a gay man but rather a 'woman' is homophobic anon.I genuinely think HRT (including anabolic steroids) should just be OTC
>>41485572fine, then im homophobic, but in a really based and traditional way
>>41485599not based at all you're a fucking traitor
>>41485605to whom???straight guys love me nowI bet you are lonely!
>>41485609gay guys would have loved you even without transitioning. but you don't want that since you're either homophobic and/or meta-attracted.>lonely?read: >>>>41485517
>>41485572no anon. that means you don't understand their condition. a real tranny believes they're a woman regardless of societal pressure. fake trannies want to be women. it's an acknowledgement that they don't identify as women because they think they can become something else. but a real one? they believe they're a woman through and through, regardless of how much you bully them. they don't see themselves as gay men because they believe they're straight women born with a birth defect. it's that simple. you not getting it is the foundation of your ignorance and bigotry. you think they're trying to become a woman. they aren't. they already believe they're a woman. they think they're an ugly chick getting a nose job to hide their jewish heritage.
>>41485623there's 100x as many straight guys as gay guys, and a lotta gay guys aren't even outplus straight guys are way hotterI upgraded my life
>>41485630>plus straight guys are way hotterhomophobic fetish larp>>41485624no reply itt confirms your statement
>>41485642>homophobic fetish larpoh please, you probably are a honsorry some girls look pretty!
>>41485648lmao I'd rather be a hot guy thanks - and I don't find girls pretty really.
>>41479762How do I find a husstuss irl without going to gay bars? I don't like em.
>>41485693maybe an lgbt support group?
>>41485693grindr
>>41485816grindr is awful
>>41485517>HSTS and do the whole woman larp when you can just be a gay guy on estrogeni do this and its so tiring at this point i might aswell change my name and let everyone treat me like a woman
>>41485943it's rly not>>41485993what's tiring about it? It sounds like you're just after some kind of female privilege which is gonna play right into the term narrative.
*terf>>41486011
>>41486011yeah it is you can't even filter by race
>>41479762>When did people switch from socially categorizing you as a gay man vs seeing you as a woman?For people I didn't know, it was like months after transitioning lol. For family, I'd say the mental switch took about a year.
>>41486022lol you can just ignore ppl
>>41486058I shouldn't have to deal with niggers or spics or gooks in the first place. An all-white dating app would be highly successful.
>>41486141But you don't have to deal with them. You just ignore them.
>>41486172they are pushy and invasive
>>41486186Block reigns supreme on grindr
>>41486204there's other apps out there
>>41486287Grindr isn't the gold standard for no reason
>>41486204doesnt it limit how many people you can block nowadays
>>41485517>Woman larp>Have sex with straight men by them sticking their penis in my vagin>Known by everyone as a womanThe bigger question is why would you be a faggot (a bottom no less) who is mocked behind closed doors by 95% of society and take dick up your shitting hole constantly when you could seamlessly blend in as the most privileged class there is?You're a retarded a faggot and I hope you get aids or better yet, lynched.
I want Grindr's paid marketing team to LEAVE
>>41479762I think it was the day my mom first mentioned me as "her" on the phone, thinking I couldn't hear her. I felt both relief and excitement.
>>41485517Based. Never change who you are for these AGP incels
>>41485624i think this is true transphobes will say they're only pretending or that they are delusional but there is a difference between those who believe they are women, those who larp as believing they are women, and those who want to become women.for me i believe i'm not a man but i'm not a woman either. i always felt different from other boys knowing i am a feminine version of them but i still knew i was a male not a female. i never became a man though. i'm ok calling myself a male but not a man even though technically i know an adult male is a man, it still feels wrong. i think i'm more just non binary and i have more mild dysphoria so transition doesn't treat it because then i feel like i'm going from larping as a man to larping as a woman. so when i say i wish i was born a girl it's to avoid all this but i don't want to transition because i know i can only become a trans woman not an actual woman and i can never be a real man either. i always felt my natural calling was to be a bridge between the sexes because since i'm in between girls would come to me for guy problems and guys would come to me for girl problems. i always felt like the male version of tomboys except that while i was proud of this role internally i was sad that society hates males to be like this so there's a lot of pressure to be someone i'm not. this is very different from both cis males and binary trans women.
>>41486637literally me (except I'm trans lesbian)even from really young I was aware that what I am and what the category i am put in forbids do not overlap. why does being labeled 'man' only allow for one way of being and another definition for a feminine version is impossiblehave you found any solution to dealing with it in your life, except assuming an identity that fits in other's preconceived notions?
>>41485624>fake trannies want to be seen as womenfifyIn essence real trannies know what they are. Fake trannies demand everybody else reinforce their delusions.
>>41486699>literally me (except I'm trans lesbian)k, you are a straight male with extra steps unless you get SRS
>>41486709no. that means you don't understand the underlying psychology and are misrepresenting the point as your unconacious bias negatively impacts your ability to be objective.>>41486637that means you don't have gd. you identify as male, but have internalized misandry (hate of men) so you can't accept yourself as the evil you see in the world.
>>41486699i just figure it's because the west has strict gender roles and masculine girls (tomboys) have more leeway because masculinity is seen as higher. it's interesting you're trans les and relate because i'm only into men and i was wondering if there was something like androphilic and gynephilic femboys like with hsts and agp. that proves gender and sexuality are different.>>41486743no i love men.
>>41486743Bitch, im trutrans, just telling it like it is. You can call me whatever. I repped for 20 years, I know exactly what I am. And I know now amount of psychological pressure affects it. I need no external validation to be secure in my identity.
>>41486872>I repped for 20 yearsUnhinged.
>>41486872>telling it like it isadmitting that you don't identify as a woman because you don't believe trans women are female?
>>41485409Very good gay sissy fag! Post butt.
>hsts thread>average IQ? below 100
>>41488565I have the highest IQ in this thread. I'm gay and hopelessly attracted to HSTS.
>>41488623cis gays be pulling up the average
>>41488565And?
>>41488695higher score is better
>>41488703Why?
>>41488904dont worry your pretty little head about it darling
>>41488623you are screwed
>>41488920Okay...
>>41489023where's the yay bitch
>>41489098Don't call me a bitch, please...
>>41489326sorry
>>41489365It's okay, let's forget about it. Just don't do it again.
>>41486926I believe transwomen that knows they are female to be women. I do not believe transwomen that doubt it, externalize that doubt, and demand that everybody affirm them are actually women. They are posers.
>>41489665wasnt me bitch
>>41489920if everyone affirms me I don't honestly care if they really buy into it
>>41489949Hey! I told you to stop!
do you pass?
>>41490415kinda?
>>41490285I feel like this too.
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>>41486870i sincerely believe there are 3 aspects to it, gender, sexuality and perspectivegender identity is something not as universal as we make it out to be, a deep sensesexuality, who or what relationships we needperspective, if our identity is from a look inside (AGP) or outside (HSTS)obviously androphilia is a lot stronger than gynephilia, but I think our perspective is overshadowed by psychological origins of these phenomena. what we see in most cis straight people is precisely a lack of negatively imprinted gender or sexual identity, so whatever role is pushed onto them is one they grow up tootoh i wonder if there is a positive imprint on AGPs where they have to be a woman viewed from a relationship of their consciousness towards themselvesfor us I think it's more that we perceive our identity from and root our identity in the relationships we are living
23~felt really nice!i went to grad school, and boom in this new environment i passed and holy god what an upgrade
