Catholic Gen is a place for all queer people to talk about being Christian and transgender and their relationship with their queerness and their faith.Qott: who’s your queer Christian icon? Mine is Andy Warhol.
>>41481386your god is dead and your faith is death, cultist
>>41481388You may hate me but I love you. I hope you have a good day.
>>41481386Hello I think God doesn't want me to be trooning out but I'm too scared of dysphoria to detroon and just be a traditional catholic man.
>>41481400Honestly kinda where I am
>>41481413How do you cope with the cognitive dissonance?
>>41481386I watched daredevil Netflix show and i think they did a good job of representing catholicism
>>41481426Idk, I don’t think God would be universally opposed to treating a genuine medical condition.
>>41481437I see. Do you think I'd be better off committing to celibacy and hoping the church changes its mind on trannies?
>>41481449Personally, unless you’re able to convince yourself into having a heterosexual relationship with a woman, I would recommend celibacy, for sure. I honestly don’t even encourage transgenderism, I just have seen recent magisterial documents permitting transgenderism in cases of extreme suicidality, which was the case for me and many other trannies, and perhaps you too.
Im an atheist who wasn't baptized, doesn't know how to pray and doesn't believe in god.However, I was born and raised in a Catholic country and consider myself culturally Catholic.Am I welcome?
i wish i'd never been raised catholic, i feel like i'll never escape it and it'll eventually kill me
>>41481515I can tell you why monotheism is objectively false if you are interested
>>41481475Probably. I was certainly very suicidal at a point before my troonsition but on the whole the dysphoria hadn't ramped up to nightmare tier.>recent magisterial documentssuch as?
>>41481482Of course! You should come to church sometime and get the after mass donuts and hang out with people!
>>41481542If I can find a dommy mommy to put me in my place I'll be there in a heartbeat
>>41481529https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/europe/vatican-gender-affirming-care-intl-latam/index.html
>>41481475this is why your religion is disgusting and antisocial we need a Red Terror again
>>41481400 or I mean, I was raised in PECUSA and have been mulling over conversion to roman catholicism for maybe the past four years. But I don't think I have a place there at all as a shutin boymoder. I'm not sure how I would broach being a troon to a priest, and even if he's okay with it the church leadership definitely isn't. I dunno. I want to feel right with God but I don't want to have to be a male, even if I know that God's going to win if I try to fight Him.
>>41481580You should convert nona, you clearly want to. Don’t let anxiety over how other people will see you cloud your ability to do what you think is right and true. I know many trans girls who converted to Catholicism.
>>41481559concessions arnt enough and its pathetic that all of you grovel at the feet of those who spit on you giving you the most basic crumbs of acceptance you should demand your place in the world and take it not beg those who would have you psychologically tortured for a place in their house we have to make a house of our own
>>41481599Were they obliged to detroon or manmode? Which nation was this in?
>>41481580also God isnt real stop letting this fucking institution made to do this to you control your mind and behavior this is a elaborate social trap made by the rich that is just a slight reform from the same trap of feudalism please dont bring yourself the same suffering so many of us brought on ourselves
>>41481386I miss being Catholic at times and other times I don’t I went to a church yesterday for a wedding it was cool, I miss the art and architecture, I miss the beauty
>>41481621In America. And no, they didn’t detransition. The priest even offered to marry her to a woman if she wanted to.
>>41481524i know it's not real logically, but it's emotionally taken root. all i know is how to hate myself and deny myself, to repress and destroy joy in my life. all i know is guilt. i can't hold onto happiness in a continuous way, regardless of therapy, because i hate my basic identity.
>>41481624Jesus Christ wasn’t rich. And the apostles who readily died for his name didn’t get any wealth out of it, either.>>41481627You should come back <3
>>41481641You might have a problem with Scrupulousity, sister.
>>41481638Waow, maybe I should just see if my local priest is chill about it. Even so, I can't help but worry about it contradicting the church's actual teaching and thus being dishonest.
>>41481386more pumping gender queer crap
>>41481649If I ever did I would want to get re-confirmed under a different saint and it would probably take a lot of counseling. The priest of my diocese was sexually abusive, and I have a wariness towards those of the cloth. I wish I didn’t, it took me a while to find a religious and spiritual meaning once I became an adult
>>41481657i don't think so, that doesn't fit me. i'm not OCD. how can you not feel this way when you're raised in a religious system that tells you that there's a perfect being in your head that can hear your every thought and knows when you sin, and is not only disappointed but ready to condemn you to eternal suffering? how does that not lead to a mind that suppresses any thought or emotion or want they think is wrong, that obsesses over possible misdeeds, that cannot feel joy because joy is selfish, etc. i catch myself enjoying my transsexuality and attraction to men and then i feel terrible about it.
>>41481660Being a complicated and broken person and a sinner doesn’t make you dishonest. We’re all Children of God, and a church is just a hospital for sinners and we’re all just taking it one day at a time. I don’t think it’d be logical for anyone to oppose your presence. If people truly believe that transgenderism is a sin and an ailment, the best thing a trans person could do to help with that is go to church. A church is for not just perfect people with their lives together, but messy people, prostitutes and murderers and all kinds of grave sinners and messy people like me belong in a church. You should go to church sometime and check it out. Church honestly isn’t the weird conservativelarp its depicted by people on twitter as, it’s a good place to go and get closer with God. Being transgender will almost never come up.
>>41481689God isn’t disappointed. You’re His child and He loves you.
>>41481697I go to a PECUSA parish at present. Also I don't think I could honestly take communion if I don't repent of being a troon.
>>41481710that's fucking bullshit. you know that's not true. hell is real. hell is where the disappointments go.
>>41481649>>41481649jesus did not worship your God and the keys were in the hands of Mary Magdalene NOT Peterthere is many historical fabrications about said apostles and even more misunderstanding of what they thought or believed Dont try to twist this Your faith is your church your church is the purpose of upholding private property and social hierarchyyou dont worship The ChristYou worship the Demoic Egregore constructed by those who want to metaphorically devour our fleshyou are killing our own sisters by calling them to an institution that enslaves us and casts us out when we get in the way to kill ourselves alone away from everyone who was thought to be our community there is no community to be found in such an institution as modern christianity it is the opium of the masses and its cut with fent for us trannys
>>41481714Yeah… I don’t know. I asked my priest and he says I should take communion because even though what I am doing is wrong, it doesn’t fulfill the conditions of a mortal sin.
>>41481697can you all not see how weak and pathetic this fucking mindset is?are you all so fucking scared that God is real you lose your dignity?
>>41481735dignity isn't real. we're all ants.
i wish i was capable of either self harm or suicide. i know it would consign me to hell forever but i feel like my existence as a transsexual actually drives others to sin. i'm like a moral black hole.
>>41481747we are humans and workers we have the ability to shape the earth and not bend a knee to the ideas of the powerful like catholicism
>>41481768please tell me why you think God or Hell or Sin is real
No one ever answers the qott *sigh*
>>41481773all of our abilities pale in comparison to the cosmic scale of the universe. everything we are will be gone in a handful of centuries. you and i might as well have never existed.
>>41481773>>41481785>>41481735Miserable hands typed this. I’m sorry you’re jaded and unhappy.
>>41481785i don't need to give you a reason. i know in my heart that it's true. why do you want to argue with me about it? what do you stand to gain?
>>41481386Kill yourself, never post again.Fuck all the way off with this shit.No space for religious schizophrenics.
>>41481786I don't know of any Christian queer people.>>41481731I see. Maybe the church will make more concrete statements about gender stuff that'll clarify.
>>41481792only by standing together can we extend into the stars we even know aliens are real AND have been here there is pretty credible evidence we have the whole universe to win for those who will call us ancestor
>>41481386Is that you Marcy Rheintgen?
>>41481819we don't have any credible evidence of aliens, wtf? and even if we did, literally who gives a fuck? i don't care about aliens.
>>41481803"you know in your heart" so vibes?i want to argue to help you so you can not be suffering under the tyranny of a false construction and actually live your authentic self without shame I care about my people YOU are my people and i care about you and i dont want to see you go down this path
>>41481579Most of chr*stian “martyrdom” is wholly fabricated and didn’t happen, but it desperately needs to happen for real. Every relischizo that refuses to recant needs to be institutionalized, given antipsychotics, and gassed if the situation doesn’t improve in six months.
>>41481685I guess I should also mention the amount of black magick I do, like daily rituals and prayers in which I declare myself as god, the bornless one, as אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה … like I realize I’m a sinner, so I guess I can’t take the holy body or blood ever again, but I guess I wouldn’t mind attending mass just to sit in the back
>>41481839you aren't my people. i have no people. our entire "community" is a charade. i have and always will deserve everything bad that comes my way. your weird ben shapiro style logic debating will only make people annoyed by you, you won't win a hostile crowd. go away.
>>41481831https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdf9CCEypFkno its getting wild in the world we do and anyway it shows we wont die here we can go out into the universe and humanity and our efforts will never perish
>>41481844pls read crowley so you understand what you are doing and then you wont feel guilty about it lmao read magick without tears and liber ABA if you havent
>>41481873I have, I don’t miss faith I miss the beauty
>>41481858i'm not watching your youtube video. our efforts will literally, by definition, perish. entropy is real and unceasing. we will either 'grow" into a form that doesn't resemble humanity anymore or perish long before that. what "we" are is a temporary pattern. accept that.
>>41481852I dont care if you reject me I still fight for you to be free I hope that you will fight for a better world with me but despite your delusions you still deserve to be free
>>41481873Crowley was possessed by demons. Makes sense how erratic and irrationally angry you are if you obviously have demonic influence over you
>>41481886oh ok good nevermind sorry
I keep looking in here for a legit argument, and yeah i'm still an atheist, I hate that i have to use it for people to get what im trying to say all the time. I am soooooooo atheist. There's nothing in this post that attracts me to anything about it. Im pretty sure same will start happening in the real world too. Atheists will just blatantly start to ignore the god people soon enough.
Romans 5:20
>>41481891your odd moralizing doesn't make you a good person. this is all just a narcissistic effort to prove how moral and good you are. it's a farce. you sound like you're about 14
>>41481888ok then we can become greater than human thats still our efforts!
>>41481904I AM erratic but not angry im concerned and wrathful Wrath isnt anger but is born out of the compassion of suffering or you could say Fierce
>>41481922it's stupid. it's pointless. there's nothing to it.
>>41481915It isnt moralizing its materialist we are in a material struggle where we all have so much to gain and you despite if you want to realize it are part of it its about whats in our interest im doing whats in our shared interest even if you act against it
>>41481945the material is inconsequential. the spiritual and existential is all that matters. what sits in your soul. the kind of person you are. the behavior you excite in others. the way you treat others. what are you doing that's in my interest? what are you doing that creates good for others? not directly related to transgenderism.
>>41481905Well there’s also a beauty in faith, the beauty in the ecstasy of saint Teresa, the beauty in the art beauty in the suffering of saint Bartholomew, the beauty in psalms, and holy vestments. There’s beauty in the mystery and mystique of it all, one that sent me down the path that I’m on, I don’t think I’d ever give up what I do, but i do hold a special place in my heart for Catholicism
>>41481977there is no souls the kind of person you are is impermenant and fluctuating and dependent on social conditionsthe behavior you excite is inconsistent alwaysthe way we treat others is not able to be categorizedwhat Im doing is my best to put seeds in peoples heads that will flourish into a rational working class mindset one day hopefully
>>41481977also the spiritual arises from the material so this is retarded
>>41481999lol, so it's not about giving a shit about other people. it's about recruiting more people for a marxist revolution. clearly, you *so* care about other people. i'd consider myself pretty left wing but the thing that's so transparent about types like you is that you think you're all che guevara, that you're the one leading the glorious revolution, that you don't realize you've just produced another kind of idolatry and fed your narcissism. you won't bring about the revolution. you're nothing.
>>41481826I don’t think she ever trips here anymore, she just posts on instagram stories.
>>41482017There is not going to be a marxist revolution stop doing drugs and touch grass. Your marxist fetish is not happening.
>>41482052that's literally what i say in my post you dipshit. did you even read it?
>>41482017>>41482073I want the left to have their stupid revolution so they get stab in the back as always. All revolutions fails at the end even the french revolution was a failure that country is a shit hole. I rather have a monarchy.
>>41482017im not a marxist and dont want to lead shit I want to spread the ideas that actually help people instead of enslave them
>>41482113Cuban revolution? Zapatista Revolution?Rojava Revolution?
>>41482151Look it cuba now is a shit hole rule by a dictator
>>41482178No???? Look up 2022 family code referendumCuba is incredibly democratic and built on local consensus they are only poor and thats only bc of US embargo
>>41481386I hope that god knows transitioning was how I needed to love and respect my self and my life. There’s no way god would have wanted me to be a man, but sometimes I worry. I want to go back to the church sometimes but I’m scared of being unwanted for being a tranny
>>41482207why do you believe God is real?
>>41482207The Pope has been very vocal about inclusion and just the other day a LGBTQ Synod was held in Italy with a number of Bishops who voted overwhelmingly to approve of LGBTQ people in their churches. So there is definitely acceptance of LGBTQ people in the church with an emphasis on pastoral care for transgender people. However it gets more complicated and sometimes conflicting because each Bishop handles things differently and the body of the churches laypeople will always have different opinions. Ultimately imo we will never be accepted by the entire covenant but there is something sacred in sharing a union with the Eucharist and participating in prayer, liturgy. And you will meet people who are accepting of LGBTQ along the way in the Catholic church if you keep looking, if not in your local parish then online.
>>41482465just be a quaker faggot
>>41482207You should go back anonette <3
not catholic but i just watched conclave
>>41482603Was it good?
>>41482673yeah it was pretty good, i thought the ending was a little weak
>>41481386Ex-catholic here, the faith is very icky to the transes but I’m glad leo is woking it up. I think we should have pooner monasteries in every city.
>>41482495I just love Catholic mass so much. The liturgy. And once I learned what to reply, when everyone is chanting along, it is like we are all taking part in the Holy spirit. ex: it is right and just, lord have mercy, and with your spirit, etc. I did go to communion and reconciliation when I was younger. But where I live was a central part of the great scandals of the 90s and 2000s and stopped going. That was 20 years ago now and I've forgiven the Catholic Church for failing our community. I do not know if I would feel right as a Quaker. Catholicism is in my family's roots. There are some Quaker churches around here but Catholicism is the dominant church in my region.
>>41482991you are aestheticsmaxxing "neither will they say, ‘Look, here!’ or, ‘Look, there!’ for behold, God’s Kingdom is within you.” Luke 17:21
why do all the local OCIA/RCIA have to be on mon/wed when im always working :(
Jewish but I've always gotten along with Catholics, it's the guilt
Found my people :DDoes anyone have any LGBT friendly cath servers? Im not really that trad tho
>>41482207god wanted us dead. he didn't want us alive and transitioning, he wanted us dead, as warnings to people who could be saved of what not to do. i think we might be fundamentally soulless creatures, designed as warnings and then coopted by the devil into living homosexual lives of transsexuality. all i want is to be with men and live as a woman, but by doing that i spread my sin to others. we're basically corrupted golems
You can't be LGBT and catholic. You're all cucks.
