I just randomly remembered something a cis girl that used to be my best friend said once and realized she uhhh raped my sister I guess? Basically she said my sister turns her down when sober but let's her fuck her when she's drunk, she said that with my sister present and she seemed to just see it as funny so I thought I shouldn't make a fuzz about it, but it's still rape when the person doesn't see it as such and didn't mind right?She didn't really respect my consent either, she'd grope me as a joke and stuff without having ever asked if it was ok but idk tbf my reaction was usually just flinching and maybe shrieking.There was one time that made me super uncomfortable where she tried to pressure me to show her my dick (despite knowing I was a boymoder so it should have been obvious how uncomfortable that in particular would make me right?) while my sister and another girl were listening. I told her no like dozens of times but she kept going until I went back home, it was mostly just the dysphoria aspect and the embarrassment from the others listening to that which made that one so uncomfortable and still kind of painful to remember, specially with her being a friend that I thought I could trust with that stuff.Is it common for cis women to be like this or was she particularly a creep? Everyone around us just found it all funny including my sister so maybe I'm the weird one for caring? Idk it feels weird to think that my once best friend did all that
>>41483734How can there be r pe without a penis?
>>41483734So sorry that happened to you and your sister anon :(
>>41483780most retarded thing ive heard in my life
>>41483780Sorry for saying this, I wanted to be edgy I take it back. I just read the whole story and want to say: I'm so sorry for you and your sis. :/
>>41483802I get it I say edgy things that I don't actually think too sometimes, it's a habit that imageboards encourage by nature ig
>>41483801It is technically not possible for a rape to be committed without the penis (rape stick), as defined by the originators of the English language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_English_law#Female_perpetrators
>>41483888No one applies this to talking about marital rape in countries where it's not recognized as such, it's about the concept agreed on by most people not the legal classification, same as how we still call murderers that got away with it murderers
Generally if everyone is of age, sex is not rape if the alleged victim consented and does not see it as rape, even if they were consuming alcohol.Alcohol can impair one's ability to say no to sex they don't want and can facilitate rape but it does not by itself make sex rape.
>>41483903Males, as a sex-class, committ rape against females as a sex-class. Stop trying to flick your specks of shit on women it won't work, TRA.
>>41483734>OP shares grape story>Chat: Lets define what grape is
>>41483914But she pretty much said my sister would never agree to it when sober, and knowing that she went ahead with it? It'd be different if she wasn't literally aware that she'd say no if she was sober. My sister not seeing it as such and apparently not being very upset by it doesn't change much about how the act should be seen, other than making me decide back then to not say anything about it
>>41483734I'm so sorry that happened to you and your sister and no, it isn't normal.
>>41483888dumbest thing i've ever heard. using English law technicalities to define it is bizarre. any non consensual sex is rape.
>>41483959Sometimes you make bad decisions while drunk, that's just how it is?
>>41484265But my friend knew my sister wouldn't take that decision when sober and still did it? I'd feel different about it if she didn't know she only agreed because of the alcohol, but she did
>>41483959What is the point of all this "uhh I guess?" bullshit when you are unwilling to accept that this was not rape?
id say that fucking someone thats drunk and would never let you otherwise is very obviously assault, seems like she never even cared about consent anyways
>>41483734> it's still rape when the person doesn't see it as such and didn't mind right?No, it’s not.
>>41483959People wanting different things when drunk is normal.I’d never order burgers sober, but every time I get drunk I wind up surrounded by burger wrappers in the morning.The burger place did not rape me.
>>41484361no the burger did
>>41484375It didn’t thoughI don’t regret eating the burger and I enjoy the burger when drunkIf a friend made some comment about how I only like burgers when I’m drinking I’d agree
>>41484393She does regret that it happened, she just wasn't mad at the friend for doing it and didn't really seem traumatized I guess. I know from other things they have said that she's logically against sleeping with the friend for a reason, not just not into her most of the time, going along with it while drunk wasn't some unusual craving but rather a loss of her usual judgment, I think it's at least quite shitty to take advantage of that
>>41484429Regret isnt a reasonable basis to deny accountability over impaired judgement. I regret ramming my car into a preschool while high on meth, that doesnt mean its the children's fault for slamming into me at 50mph
>>41484452Isn't it the sober person's responsibility to not take advantage of impaired judgement though? It's not like she didn't know that she was only agreeing because of impaired judgment
>>41484429>she does regretThat’s not in your OP and I don’t really believe you. If your sister thought it was rape she wouldn’t still be hanging around her, and ultimately if she doesn’t think it was rape then it wasn’t.
Where do I get a friend like this?
>>41483734have you talked to your sister about it? it definitely feels like something you two should discuss
