>not raped>not molested>not neglected>not groomed>did nofap and noporn for years, not a porn addict>still wind up only liking men >still wind up taking HRTAnyone else in this position? What went wrong? Am I just autistic?
>Am I just autistic?yes, you think its wrong to like men as a man so you have to be a woman to like men you weren't abused, but you were exposed to subtler negative reinforcement of your sexualitygays aren't really integrated socially into society, they are left on the periphery and hrt is a desperate attempt to fit in
same here. no abuse, physical or verbal, from anyone. quite a nice upbringing other than my parents divorcing and my mom getting (but beating!) cancer in middle school and my dad dying when i was 18, and yet i told my parents i wanted to be a girl at 6 and am on diy estrogen now since they were always transphobes
>>41485883>you weren't abused, but you were exposed to subtler negative reinforcement of your sexualityI don't think it was subtle, I was bullied severely because people thought I was gay (actually meta-attracted AGP). You yourself seem to be under the impression I'm gay; I'm not.I don't think I can "become" a woman because vaginas are icky and I don't want one, even if I don't want to use my penis, one. And two, I'm too autistic in terms of my interests, too sullen and unsociable to be remotely feminine, even if I pass.I'm not delusional about my own state. But I am treated casually a lot better on HRT.
>>41485901>only liking men>agpthat's not how that works
>>41485916That is how it works for some people. See "pseudoandrophilia," which I have.
>>41485883>Being gay is wrong>Naturally, I will choose to be something that was medically considered double gay
same over here
>>41485932Not that anon, people who know you will consider it to be worse than being gay (my homophobic parents, for instance, suddenly were really accepting of me being "gay" just as long as I quit estrogen). But people who don't know you beforehand, as long as you pass, will treat you like a woman and you're spared a lot of the baggage that comes from being gay.
>>41485872you are a homosexual
>>41485972I'm actually not.
>>41486000cope
>>41485970what baggage?
>>41486083If you're not lucky/if you're sufficiently old, homophobic bullying.
>not groomedthat's what a lot of grooming victims believe and idk what to do about that honestly
>>41486115I mean I stopped making friends when I was thirteen, nobody was even close enough to me to groom me even if they wanted to. Don't pretend to know my situation
>>41486097stand up to your bullies
>>41486137I mean at the time I adamantly denied it and tried to prove otherwise, but you can't reason with people who fundamentally don't respect you.
>>41485872Why did you make a second thread about the same thing? Fucking weirdo lol
>>41485872do you like the effects of estrogen?do you enjoy being seen as a woman instead of a man?if so, aren't you just... a fucking woman? and unless you're a misogynistic POS there's nothing wrong with being a woman? there's actually a lot of dignity and beauty in being a woman?why does transition have to mean loss for so many of you? I've never understood it
>>41486175It's a different thing, I'm wondering why I'm like this.>>41486179I'm not a woman. See >>41485901I didn't even "transition," it's a loss because I'm a failed male, failed woman, failed human being. I'll always be a square peg in a round hole and I don't even know why.
>>41486174same, they respect you tho if you don't deny it
>>41486189Its the same fucking thingYou're AGP with meta-homosexuality, this was established in the first threadThat thread is dying so you made a new one because what you really want is attention and asspats
>>41486208It's not the same thing. "I am like this" vs. "WHY am I like this, I don't match any of the supposed causes."
>>41486193This. Shake with your left hand, but keep a big fucking rock in your right hand. Everyone respects the rock. Don't abuse it though
>>41485872Idk what to tell you anon, perhaps you just like men?
>>41485872there is this thing doctors have known about for awhile called gender dysphoria that it sounds like you probably have, you might want to look it up
>>41486124I don't know your situation but I would like to know more about it to understand what's wrong with you. You haven't shared a lot of details besides denying things vaguely. That's kinda suspicious.
>>41486291I got bullied hard at 13, even bh former friends, when they suspected I was gay because I wasn't interested in/was disgusted with normal heterosexual male things. I subsequently spent a lot of time online, but didn't communicate with people on anything resembling an intimate level until adulthood. I experienced distress with my masculinity and interest in men prior to that. So I definitely wasn't groomed
