penis in female locker room:>predator!>disgusting!>pervert!>I feel raped!vagina in male locker room:>no way bro>ahah nice>looking good, dude>do you need a spot?Why are women so pathetic and fragile-minded?
>>41490595Gock is pretty powerful.
>>41490595A pooner cant overpower a man and penetrate him. A troon can overpower women and penetrate them.
>>41490826my ftm bf can easily overpower me..just last night he pinned me down and fucked me
>>41490826So much for the TERF stance that E makes troons sick and weak and kills their sexual function, and that T turns poons into roided up rage monsters.
if a bro got his vag out in the changing room, i would be very polite and not bring it up.
>>41490973That's because men are capable of self-control.
>>41490826women enjoy being overpowered and penetratedit's part of their naturelesbians still get wet when they get raped
Men and women are different omg you figured it out anon
>>41491018>trannies will make posts like this and then wonder why women hate and fear them
>>41491037>it's okay to characterize all troons by the statements of one troon>but it's not okay to characterize all terfs by the actions of nicola murray
>>41491037women hate men no matter what they do
>>41491347trvke. trying to appease a woman is a fool's errand
>>41490973That's the kind of solidarity the world needs
>>41491433Incredible that women can't manage basic shit like that
>>41491364trans women do nothing but try to appease women with their actions
>>41490611why dont i look this way
>>41490595I never understood the whole bathroom thing. I've almost always used male toilets after trooning, and being in a female toilet sounds awfully uncomfortable and judgmental, whereas moids have a larger imperative to not be in there to begin with, and aren't going to care. Maybe its survivorship bias, and obviously that kind of violence does happen, but it seems wholly disproportional.
>>41491642its a way to humiliate men and get them to be ashamed of their bodies, it was never anything to do with safety
>>41491677hmm interesting
>>41491727racial segregation existed to humiliate and shame blackssex segregation does the same thing to men - shows them they are unwanted, and paints them as disgusting predators who need to be kept away from the "good kind" of human its all subtle programming
>>41491002Yes, that's why men are vastly overrepresented in violent crime, especially sexual ones.
>>41490973I would not bring it up, but if I’m being honest I would dislike it a lot and be wishing that the FTM weren’t there.
>>41493499because (You) want to plap plap plap that hairy poon?
vagina in male locker room>LMAO WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR DICK???>AHAHAH THIS NIGGA GOT A PUSSY>NO DICK NO DICK NO DICK LOLOLOL
>>41490611brainmelting girl bulge
>use male locker room>nobody cares>use female locker room>nobody caresGender is a spook
>>41491738cismale here, I've never once felt this way pissing in the mensroom, this really seems like a "you" problem
>>41493532implying ftms don't want this lol
>>41491738How are these things inherently dehumanising on their own? Obviously you can frame specific things and they could exist because of specific factors, but inherently I would argue against that notion
>>41493576Exactly, I do in fact want this
>>41493857because it sends the message that males are predators and cannot behave sexually
>>41494093the message I take from sex segragated restrooms/showers is that people just want to have a space where they won't be oggled or hit onif it was because men were frothing at the mouth rapists then it wouldn't make much sense to put them in close proximity with each other either
>>41494361>where they won't be oggled or hit onhow are you this vapidthe idea is that men cannot control their sexual impulses and cannot help but make women unsafe the problem is all this sexual repression just makes the problem worse
>>41494369>how are you this vapidthis just isn't a big deal to me, it's not important for me to shit next to someone of the opposite sex and it's really hard to see why it would be to anyone else
>>41494391its a huge deal to casually accuse all men of being rapists who can't control their sexual urges and just expect everyone to tolerate your absurd misandry
>>41494426A significant portion of certain types of women (TERFs and second wave feminists) certainly seem unable to conceal their hebephilia. It's rather disgusting.
>>41494426idk bro i definitely don't interpret sex segregated bathrooms as an accusation that i am a rapist and it seems kind of weird to
>>41494650it literally is, the entire point is "men would put their penises in women!" if they got to see women nakedyou are an enforcer of our puritan morality
>>41490611my srs is due in one month :D
>>41491037>ah, someone pissed and shitted in the holy water reserve and killed 29 orphans? wow... how could trannies do this??classic /lgbt/
>>41495280SOME men would do that, I am not one of them therefore sex segregated bathrooms are not an attack on me
>>41495962zero men would do thatwomen are far more likely to rape than men arethe purpose of sex segregation is getting men to be ashamed of themselves and repress their sex drives, knowing women hate them and only value them for labor, not sex
>>41495982Now that is a hilariously delusional post
>>41496005no, it's true
>>41490595Idk. Ask crystal cafe/b
>>41496403I fucking love Crystal Cafe. They are an oracle of trenchant wisdom.
>>41491037How do you know who made that post?
>>41490867I'm jelly
We should go full puritan. No one should be naked in front of another person outside their immediate family. Women should be equally ashamed of being naked around other women.The solution is lockers in an open, common area with wide sightlines to make sure no teenagers are fucking around and stealing shit, with doored stalls around the perimeter walls where each family unit can change and shower in seclusion.As a bonus, there will be no awkward situations where a 13 year-old boy with a single mother is forced to use the changing room alone.
>>41497702why should women be embarrassed by being around other women? we all have the same body parts.i understand men being concerned since one of them could decide to have sex with the butt of another, but women don't have that problem.
>>41490611I swear I know this one but the name escapes me
>>41498048Because shame of nudity has nothing to do with whether you've seen those body parts before. Anyone can go online and look at porn of any body type on their phones, anywhere and anytime.The shame comes from the fact that we are clothed for the vast majority of our interactions with others in the world. The contexts in which nudity is socially acceptable are far, far outnumbered by the contexts in which nudity is socially unacceptable. And, thus, the feeling of the need to mask nudity is more present and tangible than the feeling of the freedom to be nude, leading to a shrinking of the domain of socially acceptable nudity.It would be clearly and unambiguously inappropriate to be nude in front of your coworkers in the context of the workplace. Why would it then be appropriate to be nude in front of your coworkers in the context of a spa after working hours? Why would it be appropriate to be nude in front of your coworkers in any context?This collapse of the domain of socially acceptable nudity eventually reaches the limit. One cannot avoid nudity around one's spouse (due to sexual norms), one cannot avoid nudity of small children around their parents. So the immediate family remain the last domain of acceptable nudity.
>>41491642depends on where you live. as i got deeper into transition i got harassed by the men and even physically assaulted (homophobe's gay panic). when they say gender dysphoria has to negatively impact your life, it's things like people making fun of you for your name, people degrading you saying you're not man enough to use the men's room, people harassing you for complying with work's dresscode (like girl, they really make you wear that? because you're compliant with the men's dresscode), people ostracizing you from the herd (people will want to interact with you less and less because they see you as a weirdo).homophobia is still very alive and well today. transphobia is an extension of homophobia. transphobia is when they're like, why can't you just be a fem gay man, and the answer is because it voids their safety. homophobes can't mind their own business because if you were just a fem gay man, the goal post shifts to: i don't care if you're gay, just don't be a fag about it. when literally you're just being and expressing yourself. misogyny has no room for what they deem as weak men.the crux of the bathroom argument is they see mtf's as men (nobody cares about ftm's, sorry, not sorry). it doesn't matter how far along or through transition you are. look at how nancy mace treats sarah mcbride. to someone it's not a matter of passing or any of it. it's about control. it's about demonizing and humiliating you because they're allowed to punch down at you. it's because they feel their life is out of control. nancy mace is a whore that slept around and got sexually abused because of her own naivety (no sweety he's not really going to give you a substantial campaign contribution for fucking him) so she takes it out on people like sarah mcbride to placate her ego, as if she's still in control after everything that happened to her.look at the government shutdown in the states. they're just now saying it out loud.
>>41498167>(nobody cares about ftm's, sorry, not sorry)aaaaaand that's why people view you as a dangerous monster. reexamine you entire life seriously you can do better
to follow-up:the right is finally starting to say it out loud. why are we in a government shutdown? because the republicans want to use the budget as an opportunity to discriminate against trannies. they tell their base it's the dems fault that we're in shutdown because the dems want to give illegal aliens healthcare. that's not what it is. part of it is that republicans are trying to shoe horn in banning healthcare coverage for transgender people. they'll lie right through their teeth like oh well you'll just have to go to a hospital that only accepts private insurance to receive treatment. that's why they risk their lives flying to thailand you imbeciles. no hospital solely accepts private insurance as they're pretty much all subsidized by the government to some extend. meaning, if you without funds from facilities for offering transgender healthcare providers will stop offering the service all together for fear of being shutdown by the government. i can understand not wanting health insurance to cover the tranny's boob job because you feel like regular women have to pay for their own out of pocket, but tranny's aren't regular. the reason we pay for the tranny's ba is the same reason we'd pay for a cancer patient's ba post double masectomy.so the right is going to use trannies as a scape goat and point the finger at them like oh there's no money for tranny healthcare. there is. they would just rather spend it on argentina than the trannies because for all the rhetoric they tout it means nothing. if they were really america first, we wouldn't be spending 40billion dollars on argentina. that's not even talking about the ballroom or trump's frivalous lawsuits to try to pay himself more money as if his crypto scheme didn't reel 'em in.trump is awful president, but obviously he must be a genius that so many of base worship him. he's a lousy president and pretty terrible human being, but you can't say the man isn't brilliant.
>>41498210>you're a bad person because my struggles aren't the sameoh i'm sorry. did you not want to compete with the men? because they let ftm's compete with the men. you're societal problems are not the same as an mtf. you're societal problems are learning to deal with male loneliness, solemnity, and stoicism. instead you act like a little bitch because you can't man the fuck up.
>>41490595I get that you’re a fucking idiot, op.But imagine for a moment that sex for women and sex for men being different and this leads in a different opinion and feeling about the act. Also not all women and men are the same so people will have different ways of seeing things.Maybe asking you to imagine another person’s experience is a little too much to expect of an internet troll.I know this thread sucks and op will just make another one but I’m saying it anyway. Fuck you.
>>41498311>why can't you consider how /i/ feel.>you're such a narcissisttakes one to know one.
>>41490595it's harder to rape with a vagina duha stick is a weapon, a hole is a targetmen even rape each other
>>41498332You got hands, don't you?
>>41498167>look at how nancy mace treats sarah mcbride.Illuminating.
>>41498344it's not like men don't have hands...i'm not saying it's impossible to rape without a penisit's just harder
>>41498393Unlike shit like firearms that can accidentally/negligently discharge, sexual assault takes deliberate action.Anyone and everyone can commit sexual assault against anyone else.The factor we should be concerned about is who is actually committing sexual assault, not "who might commit sexual assault" (which is everyone, potentially).
>>41490595penis in female locker room>"ew gross! you shouldnt be in here"vagina in male locker room>immediately raped.What incredible privlage!
>>41491738Being called male is not degrading you're just a tranny.
>>41498868"I'll be raped if I go in the men's restroom/locker room!" is an AGP fantasy weaponized to demand access to female spaces.
>>41498874Difference between being in a room full of 20 naked men all looking at you, and one guy walking into a bathroom full of 3-7 women
>>41498895>one guy walking into a bathroom full of 3-7 womenwhich was not the hill to die upon it turns out
>>41498137why is nudity so bad? we are all humans.and i've literally changed in front of my female coworkers. like i said it's not a problem since we have the same type of body.of course you should be nude around your spuose! that's how you have sex. and there's no need to be embarrassed when you're in an intimate relationship even if you're just changing or whatever.
>>41498941so you think i should legally be harassed by men because you believe my right to safety was voided by my own behaviors.
>>41498961>it's not a problem since we have the same type of body.What makes you say that? The answer is (probably) culture-specific norms.Not every culture is going to consider it okay be naked in front of others just because you are the same sex.
>>41498989you can be safe while being naked around both men and women
>>41490611looks more like Sock
>>41498276If you're able to move out of the states but youre staying you are a fool.
>>41490595cuz all foids do is foid out lol
Not reading this thread. Locker rooms are a dumb idea a weird from conception. Parents just...let their kids get naked around half of the entire school? Fucking weird. Only freaks want to protect these spaces
>>41490595>looking good, dude>do you need a spot?>>41490826technically misogyny
>>41490973I would raise my eyebrows but be otherwise unconcerned
>>41503077I mean, it's not like I shove it in people's faces, but I gotta change too, you know? I usually try to angle it away from any other guys who in there with me.>>41502713Nah. Most dudes are chill, at least at my gym.
