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As a straight cisgender male and kissless dateless handholdless virgin, why do trans women hate me and refuse to engage with me?
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idk cause youre a weird freak?
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>>41494028
Hey, my boyfriend was one. Before I dated him
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My guess is because you're desperate and think they're better dating options because you seem them as lesser
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>>41494028
Because there is most likely a very good reason why you are still a "kisses, dateless, handholdless virgin" only real fucking creeps end up like you
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>>41494073
>>41494056
Don't listen to them op, you matter.
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>>41494086
>>41494028
Don't listen to them op you don't matter
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>>41494041
I've met a shit ton of "weird" men in my life.

Literally every single one of them got dates and relationships with women with ease.

What is so wrong about me that I am the only one who can't do so?

>>41494055
I doubt he was as unwanted as I am.

>>41494056
I don't act like that at all. I just treat women as normal human beings.

My experience is that trans women really, really dislike me and barely want to say even more than a few words towards me. Cis women will engage with me moreso, but will still show absolutely zero sexual or romantic interest in me.

It's clear that trans girls have a particular dislike for me. They seem to view me as if I am some kind of subhuman, not worthy of being treated as a real human being.

>>41494073
I literally didn't do a single thing wrong, though.

I have known literal rapists who managed to get girlfriends. I have known severely autistic guys who smelt like literal shit 24/7 who got girlfriends. And yet I can't? Why?
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>>41494121
"Poor me why won't anyone touch my peepee, I see other less creepy guys get their peepee touched and I deserve it to" these posts only prove how fucking creepy you are.
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>>41494121
>What is so wrong about me that I am the only one who can't do so?
>I doubt he was as unwanted as I am.
>They seem to view me as if I am some kind of subhuman, not worthy of being treated as a real human being.
>I literally didn't do a single thing wrong, though.
>I have known literal rapists who managed to get girlfriends. I have known severely autistic guys who smelt like literal shit 24/7 who got girlfriends. And yet I can't? Why?
This is why
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>>41494143
I'm not creepy though?

Explain literally one (1) thing I did that was creepy.

I am literally just a normal guy who is extremely down on his luck, and can't get even the slightest bit of positive attention from women.
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>>41494121
its cause youre ugly and weird, let that sink in...
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>>41494159
>>41494157
This is actually a very good example, this anon beat me to it. Also no one owes you anything whether it's an explanation or sex. I've seen you post this before and you literally don't even listen to people. Go no get laid somewhere else
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>>41494157
Quoting me doesn't explain "why".

And if you're trying to claim that me being "desperate" is "why", then no. Firstly, I'm not desperate.

But even if I was, I once knew a guy in my late teenage years who was TRULY and pathetically desperate. He wasn't very attractive, he was deeply autistic, and his breath smelt like rotting shit 24/7. He had about 4 girlfriends in the time that I knew him. The last GF he had, he later fell out of love with, but once remarked to me that he "wanted to break up with her" but he was scared "if he broke up with her, he wouldn't be able to get another girlfriend again". If that isn't desperate, I don't know WTF is.

Why does a guy like that deserve 4 girlfriends by the age of 20? But I don't even deserve one single date or one kiss by the age of 30?
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>>41494159
Listen man you ever hear of this old saying? "There is no smoke without fire."
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>>41494195
because you compare yourself too much to others, and think you deserve the world whilst doing very little.
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>>41494195
It is obvious that you have zero self esteem. You regard yourself as worthless. Nobody will value someone who doesn't value themselves.

Do things, attain responsibilities, accomplish stuff that makes you feel proud of yourself and worthy of good outcomes.
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>>41494195
Because you suck that's why. Fucking creep
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>>41494227
this. accomplishing something builds character
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>>41494210
How can I not compare myself to others?

I am a lifelong kissless dateless handholdless virgin. It's natural for me to look at other men, examine them, and ask "What are they doing that I'm not?"

Literally every other man in this world gets romantic attention from women. I'm the only one who doesn't. I'm within my rights to ask "why?"

>and think you deserve the world whilst doing very little.
I don't "deserve the world", I just want basic human treatment. I want a normal life. I don't want to be treated as a leper.
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>>41494195
>Firstly, I'm not desperate.
You came to the tranny board for advice, be for fucking real
>Quoting me doesn't explain "why".
Have a little bit of self reflection. Think about why you saying those things might reflect badly on you as a person. You come across as feeling sorry for yourself and hating people for disliking you. Nobody wants to talk to someone like that. You even are going on another fucking rant about how much of a loser you are compared to even "TRULY and pathetically desperate" people even after I pointed out that's what the problem is.
>Why does a guy like that deserve 4 girlfriends by the age of 20?
>deserve
Another red flag. And to answer the question, it's because he had a personality instead of being a self hating mongrel
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It makes me sad thinking how rude everyone is to OP, I think every person deserves to be loved. You deserve to be loved OP.
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>>41494251
You can't help people like this by coddling them
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>>41494227
>It is obvious that you have zero self esteem. You regard yourself as worthless. Nobody will value someone who doesn't value themselves.
I have known men that had less than zero self-esteem, and yet still had consistent female attention.

In university, I was friends with a guy who was severely chubby, balding, had rotting teeth, and wasn't particularly facially attractive. He was also extremely depressed and would regularly have mental breakdowns where he would scream, throw shit around the room, and threaten to kill himself. He also had a long-term girlfriend who was very attractive and who never, ever broke up with him despite his strange behavior. Before that GF, he had extensive romantic relations with several other women - he was never a kissless dateless virgin like me.

So why do men like him, who have less than zero self-esteem, form romantic relationships with women, but I don't?
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>>41494266
exactly
>>41494246
Because comparison is the thief of joy. And you need to grow up a little. You obviously have problems and you need to face some harsh truths.
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>>41494246
>I don't "deserve the world", I just want basic human treatment. I want a normal life. I don't want to be treated as a leper.
And you aren't owed that. Nobody is. Nothing is free or guaranteed in this life except that it will eventually end, probably sooner than later.

That pathetic entitled attitude is why you are basically pussy/bussy repellent. Do you have any actual friends either?
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>>41494251
This is my whole life, I'm afraid. I have been mistreaten, beaten down, abused, spit on, and treated like utter shit since the very day I was born.
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>>41494278
Describe your looks
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>>41494278
He has more self-esteem than you, retard. You regard yourself as lower value than him, which by definition means he has more self-esteem than you. Holy fuck lol
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>>41494293
>Do you have any actual friends either?
I used to.

Every single one of them abandoned me because I made one singular mistake, and they treated me as the devil because of it.
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>>41494313
>He has more self-esteem than you, retard.
He quite literally fucking doesn't.

A man who storms around his room screaming and punching the walls and threatening to slit his own throat does not have any "self-esteem" to speak of.

And yes, I literally witnessed him do that.
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>>41494266
Sometimes boys just need a little bit of coddling ya know? Girls need to be a little kinder and show them love sometimes
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>>41494333
>Girls need to be a little kinder and show them love sometimes
Why the fuck do they? OP needs to show love to himself
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>>41494028
the answer is in the question..
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>>41494330
And yet you are here complaining that you lack what he has. That's why, by definition, you are lower self-esteem than a shrieking shit-flinging retard. You're also dumber than him if you can't grasp this point.
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>>41494330
Name a good trait you have
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>>41494195
maybe the reason no wants to date you is because you think you deserve to date someone because uglier and worse people had girlfriends
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>>41494330
Btw maybe describing your "friend" like that is why you don't have any left.
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>>41494384
>maybe the reason no wants to date you is because you think you deserve to date someone because uglier and worse people had girlfriends
I don't think that.

I just don't understand what is so wrong with me that I've gone 30 entire years of life without any woman having ever expressed any form of romantic interest in me.

I'm not a mutant. I'm not a dwarf. I'm not facially-deformed. I'm not Hitler.

What exactly is so wrong with me?
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>>41494357
Some need a little love and support, to help them get out of the hole.

Not human is an island.
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>>41494395
I feel comfortable describing him like that because he is an utter fucking cunt who betrayed me and who tried to destroy my life. So I can say whatever I want about him. He's a piece of shit who doesn't even deserve to be smeared across my shoe. And yes, I know that sounds harsh, but if you knew what he'd tried to do to me then you'd agree that I'm correct in speaking about him like that.
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>>41494400
>I'm not a mutant. I'm not a dwarf. I'm not facially-deformed. I'm not Hitler.
You only list bad things you're not yet you can't name a single positive thing about yourself
>What exactly is so wrong with me?
Your self pity and resentment towards other people
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>>41494251
nah this guy comes on here all the time if it is who I think it is. he literally has had girls sitting in his lap hanging out with him at his house but because she didn't say "let's have sex now. step 1 get out your penis." he didn't know what to do and let her go and she found someone else he is a dumbass and mega autistic.
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>>41494314
What was the mistake
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>>41494028
the fact you're asking this and also have this image saved on your computer means you have a lot of soul searching to do. praying for you sis
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>>41494422
Explain the lore
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>>41494420
>You only list bad things you're not yet you can't name a single positive thing about yourself
It's arrogant to claim positive things about yourself. I don't want to do that.

>Your self pity and resentment towards other people
Literally millions of men have "self-pity and resentment" and still have romantic relations with women without even trying.
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>>41494422
>>41494440
I too wish to know the lore of this loser
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wait is this guy a regular
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>>41494400
>What exactly is so wrong with me?
You've been told, multiple times. You refuse to accept it and make excuses and blame others. I want to call you a name or something but you honestly seem hopeless.
>>41494412
Whatever man, I'm just saying everything you've said so far is negative and off-putting and there is no human alive who likes that kind of energy. I'd bet money you're like this a lot with people.
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>>41494458
Okay so you don't actually want to be helped but just wallow in self pity
Enjoy your thread I guess, I'm out
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>>41494440
that's what it is, last time I was in a thread with the anon he said he has hung out with girls and stuff and they were basically giving him all the signals and flirting with him but he wouldn't even touch them and just sat there. And then we all told him you have to risk rejection to get love, transgirls work the same way, everybody works the same way and he bitched out.
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>>41494492
wow so hes retarded
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>>41494492
Dude wait did this guy used to post on other boards too? This is unlocking memories lol
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>>41494463
>Whatever man, I'm just saying everything you've said so far is negative and off-putting and there is no human alive who likes that kind of energy. I'd bet money you're like this a lot with people.
I am honestly not.

When I was at university, I asked several friends of mine for romantic advice. I was honest with them and said "I feel like women hate me and that they have no interest in me", and they looked at me with a bizarre expression like they thought I was making it up. One female friend of mine said that she was shocked and that she assumed I had multiple relationships before, and even after me telling her the truth she claimed I could "easily get a girlfriend".

There is something wrong with me that goes beyond the surface, beyond what human eyes can perceive. I am cursed on a deep and spiritual level. I think some malevolent god cast their hand over at me at birth and deemed that I would forever be loveless and without any affection from women.
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>>41494492
Wow, that sucks for him, but I sympathize because my bf was a khhv who was paralyzed with fear and so was I, but I wanted to be with him so much that I overcame myself and just forced myself onto him
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>>41494492
>last time I was in a thread with the anon he said he has hung out with girls and stuff and they were basically giving him all the signals
I have literally never had even one clear signal of attraction from a woman in my entire life.
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>>41494511
bro do you ever just stfu
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>>41494266
>can't coddle him
unless they're transwomen!
because that's why they transitioned!
to be babied and shit diapers
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>>41494531
Post face
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>Be OP
>Add new T girl from the board on discord
>Start messaging
>"Hello"
>"Hi"
>"How are you"
>"Fine"
>"That's good"
>Can't think of anything else to say
>Sex doesn't magically happen
>Give up and make doomer thread about how hard it is being me
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>>41494498
I know cause I was like this anon at first >>41494251 like "don't be mean to the guy." I have sympathy for someone who struggles with self-esteem and social anxiety. But insisting that the girl take all of the risk of rejection onto herself if she's interested in you? that's just pathetic
>>41494531
have you or have you not ever cuddled with a woman? or been in your room alone with a woman?
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>>41494511
You obviously have never ability to comprehend what people tell you. My advice is to just rope already. You're gonna be the 50 year old virgin one of these days
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>>41494563
Been able*
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>>41494531
Dude honestly your just pathetic nothing about you seems like you would actively make an effort to socialize or embarrass yourself
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>>41494545
Why exactly do you think I would dox myself and ruin my entire life?
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>>41494554
>>Be OP
>>Add new T girl from the board on discord
>>Start messaging
>>"Hello"
>>"Hi"
>>"How are you"
>>"Fine"
>>"That's good"
>>Can't think of anything else to say
I have literally never done this.

I don't add women on Discord. I don't want to be accused of harassment by doing so.
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>>41494619
From the sound of it your life and personality is already absolute shit. No one here feels bad for you anymore. Just. Rope.
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>>41494556
>have you or have you not ever cuddled with a woman? or been in your room alone with a woman?
I HAVE cuddled with women, a few times. None of them were romantically interested in me though.

I have never had a woman alone in my own room, no. In fact, I don't think a non-blood-related woman has ever even done so much as set foot inside my room, at any point in my life. I HAVE been inside several women's rooms, though (but, again, they were not romantically interested in me).
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>>41494619
Bro you are an energy vampire you suck the joy and vibrancy from everything and everyone around you even through a screen
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>>41494640
You've posted on other boards right? I swear I've seen you around over the years and you have not progressed one iota
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>>41494648
Of course not, this fucking retard doesn't even listen to what people say. He's just here to bitch and complain while completely ignoring every reason he is a miserable mess of a manlet
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>>41494648
I posted on /adv/ about my kissless virginity circa 2011-2012.

I posted on /r9k/ circa 2011-2013.

I then took several years absence from 4chan.

In 2017, I returned and started posting actively about my kissless virginity on both /adv/ and /r9k/ from 2017-2020. This was probably my most notorious period. In those years, people on /adv/ could recognize me from one single post alone.

I temporarily calmed down a bit after that.

Only in the past couple years have I been posting on /lgbt/.
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>>41494662
Why do you think you are so repulsive? Do you have any idea?
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>>41494640
didn't you tell us you got cuddly in bed with one of these women? I am once again telling you if a girl has gotten in bed with you under normal circumstances she is waiting to do sexual stuff with you.
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>>41494728
Why bother asking? You know what he's gonna say
>I'm not repulsive! I'm cursed or something it isn't my fault! I've seen uglier dumber crazier smellier people get GFs so why can't I? It isn't fair and it definitely has nothing to do with me!
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>>41494761
Ik I just wanted to see him prove that he's too retarded to listen
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>>41494728
>Why do you think you are so repulsive? Do you have any idea?
No. I literally don't. I am completely at a loss.

I'm autistic, diagnosed. But plenty of men in this world are autistic. Many suffer from much more severe forms of autism than I do. And they still get romantic attention from women.

I can't judge my own appearance, because I'm straight. So I can't accurately gauge how physically attractive I am. But I do know I've met much more unattractive men than I am, and they still got GFs and dates without even trying.

I'm not a midget. I'm 5'11. I've met countless men who are significantly shorter than I am and yet still get GFs without even trying. One guy I knew in university was about 5'5, albeit muscular, and was regarded as some kind of god-like individual who everybody respected. He had a long-term girlfriend who he started dating about 2 months after university began and dated for the entire 3 or 4 years he stayed there.
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>>41494746
>didn't you tell us you got cuddly in bed with one of these women? I am once again telling you if a girl has gotten in bed with you under normal circumstances she is waiting to do sexual stuff with you.
No woman in my entire life has ever said, in plain and clear words to my own face, that she finds me attractive or that she wants to date me. Nor has any woman ever asked me, in words, to engage in any form of physical intimacy with her. No woman has ever even done so little as ask me to kiss her.
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>>41494815
>I'm straight
Motherfucker blogposting all night and it's not even relevant to the board lmao
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>>41494837
I am attracted to trans women, therefore it's relevant.

Trans women treat me like shit even more overtly than cis women do. I've interacted with many, many trans girls over the internet. They seem to be utterly disgusted with me to the extent that they won't even acknowledge me in many instances. Cis girls, on the other hand, although they do not EVER appear to be romantically interested in me, will at least converse with me in a casual manner.
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>>41494860
Trans women used to be men. Instead of the cis woman impulse to coddle your retarded ass like a downie, they feel the same impulse I do to bully you for being a whiny faggot.
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>>41494815
If you truly don't have any idea then you are genuinely one of the dumbest people I have ever heard of. People have been telling you for well over a decade at this point and you just don't fucking listen
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>>41494882
>People have been telling you for well over a decade at this point and you just don't fucking listen
Unless you have been talking to me for "over a decade", then you don't really have any authority to tell me what anybody has been telling me for a "decade".

I know people have told me to be more forward, to ask girls on dates, or to try flirting with girls. I can't do these things. I don't want to be labelled a sexual harasser. I don't want to be humiliated if I end up making moves on a woman who has no interest in me. I don't want my life to be ruined by a misjudged encounter. I just cannot do it.
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>>41494906
No one told you to do that in this thread you woe-is-me retarded faggot.

I told you to go out and accomplish things that would impress others but that's too hard so you pretend to not notice that. Easier to wallow in another one of these threads and blame everyone else.
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>>41494930
>I told you to go out and accomplish things that would impress others
I did that before. What's the point?

There are men out there who are jobless, drug-addicted, obese or emaciated, wallowing around a rotting apartment smelling like a rotting corpse, and yet they STILL get girlfriends.

I know this. I lurk a lot of subreddits where such men exist. The majority of them have girlfriends, and the few who don't have had girlfriends in the past.

When such men get romantic affection from women, and I don't, it's clear that the thing repulsing women from me is something dark, deep, and spiritual, not something that can be fixed in the mortal world.
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>>41494953
You don't deserve to be happy, simple as that. You should rope
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>>41494979
I didn't do anything wrong and yet you make death threats against me. Now do you understand why I'm so bitter?
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>>41494953
>I did that before. What's the point?

No you didn't, or you'd talk about these things you supposedly accomplished.

Instead you do the same thing you always do, point out why it won't matter if you do accomplish anything because apparently less accomplished men already have what you want.

Notice how the only things you talk about are your resentment against others? Everyone else does too.

Fucking neck yourself, genuinely. I swear this is all in service of some kind of humiliation fetish
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>>41494860
All trannies took radical change when they realized the social expectations that were placed on them due to their sex were not what they wanted. It leaves someone, I think, with very little patience for the kind of cowardice you exhibit. To recognize you are unhappy with some personal flaw or issue like this but then say I give up, I can't change, I won't do it, I'm too scared. It's a bit offensive? I had to do this whole thing to just live with myself, all you have to do is reach out and touch a girl of your own initiative, to ask her, "hey can I give you a kiss?" but you won't do it. It's gross, anyway sorry the trannies are rude to you my dude.
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>>41495002
>Instead you do the same thing you always do, point out why it won't matter if you do accomplish anything because apparently less accomplished men already have what you want.
But why isn't it valid for me to ask that?

It's not just one or two men. It's the majority of men.

The vast, vast majority of men - I'm talking something like 99.999% - have positive romantic experiences with women. They get dates, they get kisses, they have long-term relationships, etc.

Even the vast majority of men who call themselves "incels" have AT THE VERY LEAST been on at least one date or shared at least one kiss with a girl in the past.

I am one of the vanishingly small and tiny minority of men who has gone 30 years of life without ever having one on even one date or had one kiss with a woman.

What is so wrong with me that I ended up like this? It just doesn't make sense.
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>>41494987
Who is making death threats, you are genuinely so fucking retarded and your reading comprehension is lower than the average maga
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>>41495006
>all you have to do is reach out and touch a girl of your own initiative, to ask her, "hey can I give you a kiss?" but you won't do it. It's gross
I literally can't do it.

And by "can't", I do not mean "I won't do it". I mean "i literally cannot do it, I am prevented from doing so".

If I touch a woman, she will likely be so repulsed by me she will accuse me of sexual assault and destroy my entire life. If i ask a woman if I can kiss her, she will label me as a lecherous creep and will - again - proceed to level accusations against me that will destroy my entire life.

What exactly do you expect me to do here? You want me to commit social suicide in the pursuit of a chance to escape kissless virginity? Are you fucking insane?
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>>41495061
If only you realized how insanely fucking stupid you sound here
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Even though op is kinda pathetic he doesn't deserve all the hate.

Have more sympathy
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>>41495030
>But why isn't it valid for me to ask that?

Because kill yourself
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>>41495080
If you had experienced life in my shoes for 30 years, you might know what I'm talking about.

To be met with resistance every single step of the way, no matter what you do.

Things that other men are allowed to do, I cannot.

It just makes me extremely fucking upset and extremely sick. I am so fucking pained by it. I never wanted my life to end up like this. It happened against my will.
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>>41495085
No, this fucktard is wallowing in a pit of self loathing of his own design while refusing advice and help he is given. He needs to fucking rope already
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>>41495107
Why don't you just ask a trans girl out
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>>41495107
You know the solution buddy, you know exactly how to make it better
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>>41494860
oh thank goodness
another autistic bichud to profess his love of gock and probably transition
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>>41495114
I think it's cruel to tell someone who is suffering to kill themself. I sympathize greatly with lonely men because I am an autistic tranny and that would be me if I did not transition.
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>>41495122
I don't know any trans girls on a personal enough level.

The few trans girls I have interacted with, seem to utterly despise me.

And women in general seem to be sexually repulsed by me.

I do not want to humiliate myself by making romantic advances upon anyone who does not wish me to do so.
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>>41495149
>The few trans girls I have interacted with, seem to utterly despise me.
How? Explain in detail so I can accurately gauge your situation.
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>>41495085
>>41495146
You can't help people that don't want to be helped. This problem is 100% on OP's end
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>>41495030
>But why isn't it valid for me to ask that?

Because these men you view as less than you are your superiors. They have what you want, they've accomplished what you can't. Drop this fragile narcissist bullshit, it isn't fooling anyone. You act entitled to a relationship because you are more conventionally attractive than some people who have them, but that is retard logic. Despite the woe-is-me act you are very arrogant, nobody can tell you anything.

>What is so wrong with me that I ended up like this? It just doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense to everyone who isn't you. You are Chris Chan levels of retarded. Maybe try his old methods? Make a sign asking for a GF and sit with it in public like the jelly-brained sperg that you are. That's easy and stupid enough to appeal to you.
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>>41495146
Then pity fuck him or smth but his sad sack fucking shitty blaming everyone but himself attitude makes me want to see him rope
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>>41495162
>How? Explain in detail so I can accurately gauge your situation.
They just are extremely short and terse with me.

If I attempt to talk with a trans girl in a discord server about something, she either doesn't reply to me at all, or replies in one or two word messages.

Meanwhile, I see her respond to other people - including other men - in much more elaborate and in-depth messages. Publicly.

Like I said earlier, I believe trans women treat me even more harshly than cis women do. At least many cis women will interact with me platonically, they just won't show romantic interest in me. But trans women won't even consider me as a potential friend. They just look down on me as if I am pathetic.
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>>41495030
>>41495183
This is true, everyone you seem to look down on is absolutely superior to you
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>>41495192
Hahaha holy shit I (>>41494554) was spot on earlier
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>>41495192
They are expecting you to say something interesting and suggest some activity.

If you just talk, nothing happens. Especially if you do not have much to say. You might not have the same interests as the tranner so she would want to talk to someone else she knows better.

You should suggest a game to play together. I used to play Apex Legends with someone for example.

Or you could suggest a movie to watch together.

If you genuinely have romantic interests I think after a while of doing those things you should say it and suggest to meet up
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>>41495183
>You are Chris Chan levels of retarded. Maybe try his old methods? Make a sign asking for a GF and sit with it in public like the jelly-brained sperg that you are.
Chris Chan is much uglier than me, and is also much more socially oblivious than I am.

I couldn't even attempt to do what he did. The thought of sitting in a public space with a sign advertising my virginity makes me physically sick with anxiety.

I am extremely anxious about anybody finding out how romantically and sexually inexperienced I am. At one point in university, I ended up splurging about it to a small group of friends. A girl who was there offered to "teach me how to kiss". I couldn't do it. I couldn't go through with it. The thought of being publicly humiliated if I tried to kiss her and didn't know how to make the correct motions with my lips was too much for me. I didn't want her going around telling everybody "what a bad kisser I was".
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>>41495229
You are basically talking to an extra retarded brick wall. There is zero chance this loser takes any of that advice
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>>41495229
>They are expecting you to say something interesting and suggest some activity.
In a Discord server? Most of these women are in completely different parts of the world from me.

>You should suggest a game to play together. I used to play Apex Legends with someone for example.
No. Too dangerous.

I don't even ask men to play games with me. I'm too scared of rejection. I live in eternal fear of someone responding to me "I'm sorry, but we aren't close enough to do that...", or something similarly petrifying.
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>>41495240
You need meds
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>>41495260
Ok be a fucking loser forever
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>>41495260
>No. Too dangerous.
>I don't even ask men to play games with me. I'm too scared of rejection
Well if you don't you are 100% certain to die alone desu.... you need to change that and it doesn't matter what excuse you can think up.
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>>41495260
Ok have fun dying alone
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>>41495282
>>41495283
>>41495300
None of you have any guidance for what I am supposed to do if I propose something to somebody and they reject me.

These things are easy for people like you. But they are impossibly hard for me.

I can't take the humiliation. I just cannot.
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>>41495322
Definitely gonna die alone. Hopefully soon
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>>41495346
More death threats. Very nice.
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>>41494028
It’s cuz ur probably fat and ugly and have no confidence
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>>41495352
That's not a death threat retard. As I said, your reading comprehension is abysmal
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>>41495352
It is not a threat, it is the inevitable outcome of your thought and behavior patterns if you do nothing to correct them. You WILL die alone if you carry on like this.

Make another 10 threads like this though, see if that helps.
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>>41495367
Spoiler: it wont
Double spoiler: hes never gonna stop and never gonna take advice
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>>41495367
>It is not a threat, it is the inevitable outcome of your thought and behavior patterns if you do nothing to correct them. You WILL die alone if you carry on like this.
But you quite literally AREN'T TELLING ME TO DO ANYTHING.

You aren't giving me any advice. You aren't giving me any instructions. You aren't doing ANYTHING.

I am at a total fucking loss as to what to do. I've been like this for my entire life. I feel like nobody understands. I feel like a cursed individual. I genuinely feel like I live the worst life of anybody on this planet today.
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>>41495364
not the op but i am fat, ugly and have no confidence. i have made out with trans women. it is probably just him.
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>>41495389
I mean you aren't a fucking jeet so it can't be that bad. My advice is to rope
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>>41495352
I can see why people don't want to talk to you, holy fucking hell
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>>41495389
I told you to accomplish impressive things. Run a marathon. Climb a mountain. Manage a business. Do something that will impress others.

Do you need a step-by-step list of instructions for everything, retard? You probably unironically do
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>>41495396
>not the op but i am fat, ugly and have no confidence. i have made out with trans women. it is probably just him.
Thanks for proving me right.

At the same time, I genuinely hate you.

The existence of men like you makes me seethe with burning fucking anger.

I work my body to the fucking bone for my entire life and get nothing, meanwhile you meander into the room like a fat slob putting in zero effort, and you receive the world.

It's not fair. Life is not fair. It's fucking cruel. And I live the cruelest life of all. This is the hand I was dealt at birth, and I cannot change it.
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>>41495425
>This is the hand I was dealt at birth, and I cannot change it.

True, so just jump off a bridge already
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>>41495424
>I told you to accomplish impressive things. Run a marathon. Climb a mountain. Manage a business. Do something that will impress others.
I could do literally every single one of these things, and not a single woman on this earth would ever express any form of romantic interest in me for doing so.

Nothing I do will ever make a woman walk up to me and say "Hey, you're cute. Wanna go on a date?"
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>>41495389
>>41495322
If they reject you send them a funny black guy gif like "bye felicia" and block them it's not that hard

Then move onto someone else and make propositionss until you do not get rejected.
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>>41495425
Bridge! Jump! Now!
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>>41495436
>Asks what he should do
>Gets told what to do
>"I won't do that, it would make no difference."

How the fuck would you know anyway? You haven't done anything with your sad life but complain.
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>>41495425
dawg i have a personality which can attract people. if you tried being less of a schizoid me vs them mentally retard. you'd probably have better chances with women.
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>>41495450
Ikr, he literally has never even tried anything and thinks he knows as if he had. This is truly one of the most pathetic people I've ever even heard of
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OP you should go backpack in a foreign country where you don't know the language it will toughen you up
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>>41495446
>If they reject you send them a funny black guy gif like "bye felicia" and block them it's not that hard
I don't have the presence or the gravitas to do that.

>>41495450
>You haven't done anything with your sad life but complain.
I've done more than a lot of men have done.

Some men got shat out their mother's wombs, walked out into the world, and 16 years later got girlfriends without doing anything at all.

If you knew the men I've known in my life, you'd know why I'm as bitter as I am.

I knew a guy who was literally obese, and bisexual, and had a babyface, who was beloved by every single woman he met simply because "he's funny". It's not fair.
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This is honestly getting pretty hysterical now

I hope this is some kind of performance piece
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>>41495471
You know those men are all superior to you right? By a lot
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>>41495455
>dawg i have a personality which can attract people.
And why do you have that? Because you were born with it.

I didn't choose to be born with aspergers syndrome and severe neurosis of many different kinds.
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>>41495471
>I've done more than a lot of men have done.

Ok name one thing you've done other than be retarded and strike out.
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>>41495471
>I don't have the presence or the gravitas to do that.
You don't have that because you don't do it

If you did it you would have it

Duhhhh

It's so obvious

Just stop being a bitch and you won't be a bitch....

Be an alpha and you will be an alpha

It's really simple. REALLY
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>>41495488
He hasn't done anything besides cry like a little bitch
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>>41495494
>You don't have that because you don't do it
>If you did it you would have it
I mean, no.

I just don't have the presence to say those kinds of lines and convey them with any sense of confidence.
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>>41495516
Another comment where you prove that you have zero reading comprehension. Nice job!
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>>41495516
Answer me if you aren't lying >>41495488
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>>41495516
>I just don't have the presence to say those kinds of lines and convey them with any sense of confidence.
All you need to do is make this your pfp

Then, you will. That's all you need to do.
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>>41495488
>>41495540
I can't detail anything lest I get doxxed.

There are people out there, who if they read this thread and saw certain things, they would immediately identify it as me, and they would utterly ruin me. I can't afford that.
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>>41495554
Nobody cares that much dude

just say something

Stop being a neurotic loser
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>>41495554
Nobody needs details, just say one thing you've accomplished in your life that would impress others in the vaguest terms possible.

If you won't do that then I am left to conclude that you are lying and bullshitting to cope with how fucking pathetic you actually are.
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>>41495561
>Nobody cares that much dude
They do, dude.

There are people in this world who hate me with the fury of one thousand suns.

If they could get any ammo at all to crush me, they'd use it.
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>>41495578
Maybe that's because you are genuinely just a shit person. People don't hate people that much for no reason
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op if you're in some server you should just vent and open up about how hopeless you feel

I guarantee there's like 1 transgirl who actually loves the nerd sad boy who is hopeless in romance archetype

But you need to actually open up, not just wallow online.
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>>41495576
>Nobody needs details, just say one thing you've accomplished in your life that would impress others in the vaguest terms possible.
I starred in several different theatre productions, in several cases in leading roles, for one thing. Publicly, I seemed to be a very charismatic and confident man. But that didn't get me any romantic attention from women.

Even me saying that alone is probably enough, coupled with the rest of this thread, for certain people to identify me.
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>>41495594
>op if you're in some server you should just vent and open up about how hopeless you feel
Absolutely not. If I vented my feelings under any identifiable username, that'd be enough to make me want to fucking kill myself. This has to be anonymous ONLY.

>I guarantee there's like 1 transgirl who actually loves the nerd sad boy who is hopeless in romance archetype
No, no women have ever been romantically attracted to me, and I don't think that's going to change any time soon.
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>>41495605
Ok, so here's what you do. Next time you talk to a romantic interest, talk about that.
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>>41495605
Holy shit, is that you julian? From milwaukee? holy shit, I am going to ruin your life so hard now. Everyone in your life will know you post on the secret nazi website mwahahahhaaha
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>>41495625
No point. They don't care about it.

I remember standing on stage in front of 100s of people night-on-night. The women were more interested in the guy who played the lesser role, who had the "cool, aloof hipster" reputation and wore glasses. He got the women. I didn't. And guess what, every other guy on the cast had girlfriends and I didn't.

I remember going to the pub with a guy I knew back then. I asked him "What am I doing wrong? Why can't I get a date?" He looked at me and laughed like he didn't know what I was talking about. Then he told me to "just go ask a girl on a date". He, like everyone else, just didn't fucking understand.
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>>41495655
You sound

Pathetic

You sound like

A loser

Holy fuck just talk to someone

JUST FUCKING DO IT

JUST DO IT
I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY EXCUSE

JUST FUKCING DO IT AND IF YOU DONT I WILL PUNCH YOU IN THE GUT
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>>41495669
>Holy fuck just talk to someone
Who? Literally who?
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>>41494028
You must be retarded. 4/5 of the women I've dated have been Trans, and I don't even seek them out. They are drawn to me.
Show face
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>>41495655
Dude just fucking rope holy shit. I promise you as long as you stay this fucking stupid then you will never be happy
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>>41495680
Just tell me, in plain and simple words, what I am doing wrong.

Because from my perspective, you're just insulting me for literally no reason.
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>>41495686
You refuse to talk to anyone
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>>41495686
Post your face, race, height, weight and age and we can tell you
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>>41495705
I have talked to literally 1000s upon 1000s of people in my adult life, probably most of whom have been women.

Talking, or even making friends, doesn't get me anywhere. I still don't receive romantic attention from women. I still am not considered as a viable romantic partner.
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>>41495717
Ok but how many of those thousands have you asked out? If it's 0 that's the problem
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>>41495686
You. Are. A. Fucking. Pussy. That. Cannot. Handle. Rejection. Even. Once. And. Are. Too. Fucking. Stupid. To. Listen. To. The. Advice. Given. Do I need to make it simpler? Should I only do one word comments at a time so you can keep up?
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>>41495713
>Post your face
Nope. No doxxing. I'd rather kill myself than post my face on 4chan.org

>race
White Anglo-Saxon

>height
About 5'11

>weight
163 pounds

>age
29
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>>41495742
>Nope. No doxxing.
You asked what you are doing wrong

Post your face, we demand it
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>>41495738
He's just ignoring me. He will kill himself and the problem will handle itself
Im severely autistic and even I have trans girls wanting to get their heads pounded against the wall and ass fucked by me
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>>41495759
He just needs to do it already. You just know he's a huge piece of shit irl based on his other comments
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>>41495771
>>41495759
I don't like when you tell people to kill themselves even if he is pathetic he is suffering

He just needs someone irl to give him a gut punch every time he acts stupid
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>>41495728
>Ok but how many of those thousands have you asked out? If it's 0 that's the problem
I have only asked out 2 women in my life.

The first, I was 16 years old and she was in one of my classes in high school, and I had a massive crush on her. She brutally rejected me and made me feel like an utter piece of shit. She wasn't even a "popular" girl, but was actually pretty reserved and quiet, and she still savagely rejected me and tossed me aside like dirt.

The second, I was 17 and also in high school, I was close friends with her and crushed on her for a long time, and when I asked her out she said something to the effect of "you're a handsome guy but I am not interested in dating you". It made me feel like a piece of shit and I literally laid in bed for an entire weekend feeling miserably depressed over it.

After those two experiences I vowed to myself to never again let a woman make me feel that way EVER again. I won't be humiliated like that any more, not now, not ever.
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>>41495759
>He's just ignoring me.
I'm not ignoring you. Point me to which post(s) you think I am "ignoring", and I will respond to them.

>Im severely autistic and even I have trans girls wanting to get their heads pounded against the wall and ass fucked by me
You don't exactly endear yourself to me by saying this. This makes me hate you and want to exact violence against you. Seriously.
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>>41495781
Am I supposed to care what you like?
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>>41495783
Ok why don't you ask out 50 more
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>>41495797
You are actually a piece of shit. You need to Kys fuckin immediately
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>>41495810
Why am I a "piece of shit"? Explain that.
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>>41495824
You want to be violent towards others for not wallowing like you
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>>41495836
No, that's not true.

I want to be violent towards other men because they get to experience romantic relations with women, while I don't.
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>>41495845
If you are sooooo jealous that they get that then just ask out women until you are not lonely

You obviously don't want it enough though
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>>41495873
>If you are sooooo jealous that they get that then just ask out women until you are not lonely
I can't do that. It's too humiliating.

I genuinely feel I could ask out 1000 women and not a single one would ever say yes to me.

This is what my life-long experiences inform me would happen.
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>>41495887
Ok so you don't actually want a gf then. Your actions show it.
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>>41495824
>This makes me hate you and want to exact violence against you. Seriously.
>I work my body to the fucking bone for my entire life and get nothing, meanwhile you meander into the room like a fat slob putting in zero effort, and you receive the world.
>I can't do that. It's too humiliating
You are a pathetic piece of shit. Kys immediately
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>>41495898
Imagine if I flipped that logic back on you.

"Women have never wanted to be my GF. Their actions show it."

You'd rage at me and accuse me of making excuses.

One time, when I was at university, I was at a party, and I met this girl who I genuinely thought might be interested in me. I was very attracted to her, I enjoyed conversing with her, I just liked her a lot. After 30 mins or so of talking to her, I went to the kitchen to get another drink, and a friend pulled me aside and said:
>bro, you HAVE to go for it. she clearly likes you! just ask her out

I felt invigorated and, when I walked back with my new drink, I started talking to her again.

Not 10 mins into the conversation she randomly, without me saying ANYTHING untoward, stopped the convo and said:
>Look, I'm really sorry, but, I have a boyfriend, so, nothing is gonna happen between us...

I felt so fucking humiliated, so utterly embarrassed, like I'd just been castrated in front of a live audience of people, I couldn't fucking bear it. I couldn't fucking breathe.

I just stood up, said nothing, and silently walked out of the room and out of the house and marched back home.

Apparently the girl was so "worried" about me she found out my name from someone else (despite me never telling her my name) and found my Facebook account and messaged me an "apology" and tried to ask if I was okay.

I don't even remember what I did. I was in such a daze. I might've blocked her. Or maybe I just ignored her. I know I felt so bitter about it I never wanted to see her again. And I NEVER, EVER want to feel the way I did that night EVER again.
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>>41495946
ok who cares about some whore ask a different girl
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>>41495959
She wasn't a "whore".

And there isn't any evidence that if I asked any other girl, that she would have any other kind of response.
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>>41495969
Just go ask a different girl and if she rejects you ask a different one

I don't care about your "evidence" just do it
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>>41495980
>Just go ask a different girl and if she rejects you ask a different one
Every rejection cuts me to my core.

I have only ever been rejected explicitly twice in my life, and "softly rejected" (I.E., rejected without actually asking someone out) maybe a handful of times more, and every single one of those instances lives in my head permanently even over a decade later in some cases.

I can't face any more rejections. It will legitimately kill me.
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>>41495997
No it won't you dramatic theater kid

Just do it
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>>41496003
There is literally no point. No woman has ever been attracted to me. If they had been, I would've known about it. No woman has ever shown any signs of romantic attraction towards me.
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>>41496034
Then rope
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This is sad, if you live near seattle I will pity fuck you
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>>41495759
That's fucking hot. If you're near LA I'd let you punch me in the head and fuck me, just make sure to send OP pics of us fucking so he kills himself quicker lmao
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>>41496045
Yet another death threat. Yawn.
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>>41496059
Do you even know what a death threat is?
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>>41496055
Unfortunately, I live as far away as possible from Seattle.

You wouldn't pity fuck me even if you could, anyway. I guarantee you if you interacted with me on a personal level, you would be repulsed by me. It's the case with every woman I interact with. You all hate me.
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>>41496057
>That's fucking hot. If you're near LA I'd let you punch me in the head and fuck me, just make sure to send OP pics of us fucking so he kills himself quicker lmao
Thanks for proving how 99.9% of women hate me and are repulsed by me.

It's much easier to make my arguments when there are live examples of what I'm talking about.
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>>41496065
Ik that I'm for sure repulsed by you
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>>41496085
Why though? What did I do wrong?
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>>41496080
Hey fucktard I asked you a fucking question. Do you know what a death threat even is?
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>>41496065
I will coach you to get a gf if you post discord, I love helping loser males
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>>41496093
Read your fucking responses and take a wild guess. You are fucking trash and you deserve to feel like you do
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>>41496097
Nope. No Discord. I'm not ruining my entire life by doxxing myself.

I'm severely drunk right now and when I go to bed, I want this entire episode to vanish into the ether and I'll forget this thread ever happened.
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>>41496108
Keep drinking and maybe take some painkillers too. Like a lot of them
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>>41496105
>Read your fucking responses and take a wild guess. You are fucking trash and you deserve to feel like you do
I don't really see why I am "trash" simply because I was born with the misfortune of having a disease that makes all women romantically repulsed from me the moment I start speaking to them.

If you haven't lived in the shoes of a man who has gone 30 years without EVER having a woman ever flirt with him or express any form of romantic interest in him, you don't know what it's like.
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>>41496120
I'm out of booze. And when I go to bed I'm not coming back to this board. Maybe you'll see me in a week if I get drunk again
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I believe people in this thread need to stop being mean to this guy
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>>41494028
If you asked me, the first thing that worries me is that you are alone. Are there any reasons for this? What are they? This may indicate that you are a bad person.
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>>41496055
Nta but also not near seattle
Wish I could get a pity fuck
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>>41496217
Why should anyone be nice to that sad sack of shit
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>>41496295
they aren't harming anyone and being nice is good
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>>41496476
That's stupid
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>>41496598
no u
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>>41496055
>seattle
why do we all live here lmao, every time i use this site i wonder how many troons in a 2 mile radius are here
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>>41496108
You can just make a throwaway discord instead of doxxing yourself with your main one. It would take less effort than these threads that go nowhere.
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>>41494028
Honestly dude? Your whiny "woe is me" demeanor seems insufferable. You, quite frankly, give off narcissistic vibes. You have low self esteem and people can sense it. People can sense how judgmental and pathetic you are because your personality simply gives off rancid vibes. It seems like you are utterly incapable of taking advice from anyone. And also: if literally every friend you've ever had has dumped you, it's a you problem. You can easily find a partner even if you're below average looks or height or intelligence wise. Do you even have any hobbies or positive traits? It seems like you just want a girlfriend for sex or just to have one, not for any real companionship. You are not ready for a relationship. Work on yourself and fix your shitty attitude before you try to date anyone. And please, learn to take advice. You'll thank yourself.
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OP did nothing wrong and was instantly assaulted for being perceived as a low value male.
This is the world the matriarchy built.
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>>41497403
You didn't read the thread then or you're as stupid as he is
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I didn't start dating until after 30 for personal reasons and it really wasn't that big of a deal. A lot of it came pretty naturally because I was never a friendless loser and knew how to talk to people. Skill issue OP
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>>41494028
are you the guy i think you are? did you once sleep in the bed next to a naked woman because you didn't know how to initiate sex?
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>>41494028
wanna change that ?
drop dc or gtfo



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