It's ok to be a feminine man.
>>41499628ty anon, have a nice day
>>41499628You don't believe that.
>>41499647I genuinely do!
>>41499628Then why do I hate myself and take estrogen to cope
>>41499628ok i will be a feminine man that acts and looks like a woman and takes estrogen and has a vagina and boobs
>>41499751based
>>41499628except you dont actually believe that after troons are gone you're gonna talk about how men need to be masculine again
>>41500506:(
Men needs to be feminineWe're already better than women on masculinity, might as well get better at feminity too since we've seen how they've been handling this so far
>>41499734because women aren't ok with you being a feminine man, and we need to change society to heal >>41500506nope! you have me all wrong>>41502625femininity is about expressiveness and enhanced communication - as well as the decorative element which frankly is optionalletting men be feminine would improve social adhesion for men, of course at the expense of not letting women control men so closely
trvke
>>41504039>because women aren't ok with you being a feminine man, and we need to change society to healFalse. Only people attracted to virile masculinity are gay men. Even straight women prefer pretty boys
>>41504683>Even straight women prefer pretty boysDo you happen to live on the West Coast anon
>>41504751I bet he does!
always!
>>41499628Except it's not, because incorrigibly feminine males are treated extremely poorly by society.
i take hrt to continue being a feminine man
>>41506248the autogynesmile strikes again
>>41506242let's work together to improve how feminine men are treated, without medicalizing their existence
>>41506268>autogynesmileI am a man with a penis who is attracted to men with penises
>>41506269I could spend my entire life trying to change society and human sexuality to allow me to be taken seriously and find a gay man who sees me as marriage material and not a novelty fuck.OrI could take HRT, get SRS, and find a straight man to marry me.I did the second one.
>>41499628Don't lie to them
>>41506287You take HRT because you don't want to undergo twinkdeath and masculinize.You don't want to masculinize because it would make you dysphoric.Masculinizing would make you dysphoric because you're an autogynephile.
>>41506297>and find a straight man to marry me.
>>41506306If he weren't straight, then he would find cis men attractive. He doesn't. Sexual orientation doesn't care about chromosomes.
>>41506305>autogynephile-phile implies theres some sexual gratification along with it anon.
>>41506327Nope. -phile simply means "love of" in this context.
>>41506338>in this context.>words are what I choose they are in the momentMan shut the fuck up and do something else
>>41506325>nobody has ever lied about not being gay
>>41506345Do you think hydrophilic substances get sexual gratification from contact with water? Dumbass.
>>41506353>see this woman, bro?>you're attracted to her, huh?>well, surprise! she has XY chromosomes!>I tricked you! boom. you're no longer straight, bro
>>41506375you never really see trannies except under layers of paint and hair flapsand only at certain specific angles, over and over
>>41506359Only if the water gets horny from seeing itself as 2 hydrogen atoms bound to a single oxygen atom
>>41506387Most people having that mindset makes things easier for passing troons. So, cool.
>>41506398>passingin your dreams
>>41504751Upper Midwest.
>>41506439Lol. Significantly worse. Opinion disregarded for being overexposed.
Trvthnvke: it's okay to be a feminine man. It is NOT okay to be a femboy and you need to either transition or fucking grow up, because adults cosplaying as 17.5 year old boys is not fucking cute or feminine. It's completely just an outlet for repper trans girls to feel desired, and no amount of femboy pissing and shitting and seething will ever make this not true. Enjoy turning 25 and balding. >t. 33 year old gay man with feminine mannerisms, never got femboy brainrotted and grew up into a normal adult who pays taxes
>>41506463>giving other people his hard earned money like a cuck is what makes him valid
>>41506305I like this idea that somehow a person can be sexually attracted to themselves. How do you have sex with yourself?
>>41506472Better than being an online (and yes they only exist online) femboy, that's for sure.Like you're just setting yourself up for psychic damage with natural aging lol. Adult men are not androgynous or feminine and if dressing as an anime character is your sense of gender, you're honestly better off as a trans woman than as a cis man.All femboy culture does is hurt the people who identify with it to produce porn for the internet and people with very weird, frankly closeted and homophobic tastes in men. I don't really like it because it is a very ephemeral label that basically cannot exist past 30. You either become a man or a woman and that's really all there is to it.
>>41506525What about someone who goes on E and later gets top surgery to remove the breasts?
>>41506492Some of them masturbate. Some of them have sex with men and focus on the fantasy of being a woman during it.
>>41506538Seems like a really roundabout gender nonconforming person to me, which yes under current science falls under the trans umbrella as much as it makes people online shit and piss themselves that being gender nonconforming in of itself- even if you're not on HRT - makes you trans.I would respect this person's identity but categorize them as a trans person in my head, like all people who are upset by their natural sex and their socially assigned gender at birth.
>>41506445What do you mean by overexposed?
>>41506559Overexposed to the type of women that like prettyboys>Even straight women prefer pretty boysThe rest of the country isn't necessarily like this
of course it is
nuh uh
no
>>41506525>>41506463i'm a broke repper, is there any hope of just being a feminine man who just conveniently takes E beyond 30 or should i just be a woman instead
>>41506935*20 i'm retarded
>>41499628Only if you're a cute twink or femboy. If you look remotely masculine then its disgusting.
>>41506305I dont want to masculinize because masculinity is gross and repulsive. I want to be cute. Masculinity is the opposite of cute.
>>41506935Trans people on estrogen tend to look pretty androgynous if that's what you're going for. You can self id as whatever you want. If you want femininity or androgynony I'd say transition/continue to transition, and yeah you'll end up happier than if you didn't. It gets worse if you don't, I think. I don't know. I'm intersex/cis I got no clue lmao
>>41506995i rlly hate my body + face and i want to be pretty more than being female. i feel like a retard for wanting to just be an hrt femboy but i don't have the mannerisms/voice either to pass as a woman. at best just look like an amab crossdresser
>>41506297glad it worked out for you but for me it feels like the opposite:>I could spend my entire life trying to change my body to be taken seriously and find a GAMP man who sees me as marriage material and not a novelty fuck.or>I could embrace my birth sex and find a gay man to marry me.
>>41506963no matter what age you are, or how attractive you are
>>41509069thisI’m 31 and I’ve only become more feminine relative to peers as I’ve aged. I did go through some rough patches giving into peer pressure, attempting to force myself to man up so it’s annoying to read people telling each other they can only be fem during youth when a lot of young twinks spend their youth repressed and trying to be masc to fit in as I did. When I eventually accepted myself I still always had the fear of aging out of youth, as if twink death would suddenly strike overnight, and that I would one day no longer be “allowed” to be myself because of that. It’s all toxic and I’m proof it’s wrong. I’m going to be fem as long as I live because it’s who I am. The kind of people wasting their lives putting out negative energy want to make others feel bad because they feel bad about themselves and their own bad decisions that they continue to make.
>>41509411peer pressure can be really intense
>>41509411Amen
>>41509411extremely based taketoo based for this brainwormed board