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WHY DID GOD CURSE ME WITH BEING BORN A MAN, GOD WHY?????
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>>41517034
To hit that like button and subscription bell!
In all seriousness idk, I think god isn't real
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Being male is great. No menstruation, no pregnancy, no childbirth, no menopause, greater height and physical strength, more robust skeleton.
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>>41517034
for the plot, you can't skip the plot
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>>41517057
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>41517064
Some of us can make ourselves look very much like females, but we retain many of our male advantages. We shouldn't be ashamed of what we are. Let females see the; it's their problem, not ours.
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>>41517074
I just wish I didn't have to go through this BS.
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>>41517078
For us, it's temporary. For females, their problems are lifelong. No wonder they hate us: we live on easy mode.
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We get designer vaginas paid for by insurance. Females don't.
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God cursed you with being born male, not being born a man.
Society and male-socialization is what made you think, speak, look, and feel like a man. Every facet of your thought is something that is inherently male since your entire world-view is male and andro-centric.
So when you say stuff like this, it is pretty male-brained. Hell, even incels say the same things. It's a pretty common thing for men to go "nooo being a man sucks for me it's so hard waaaa".
No matter how hard you try, you will never be a woman. Not because of biology, that is very easily a conquerable thing -- but because of your socialization. There are critical periods for learning things during your development, once they are closed (and they all close before around 10 years old) they are extremely hard to change.
Do you really think you will be able to rewire all of your male-view of the world?
The way you feel, the way you think, the memories you have, the way you see colors, the way you react to smells, the way you use words, the information your brain chooses to retain and chooses to throw out. You can never change over a decade of that.
Think about how much people struggle to learn new languages, and basically none of them ever get to a fluent level.
Female/male thinking is something that is even more ingrained, more sub-conscious, and harder to catch and correct than language is.
So good luck <3
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>>41517113
It's so over.
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>>41517126
It's not. TERFs think their own stunted development is universal.
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>>41517034
Transitioning doesn't work, you are just going to end up as a social pariah and a freak.

Being a man is not the cause of your pain that is your autism making you hyper focus, if you sort out all your other issues like your depression loneliness etc, your life will be much easier.

and if you want proof of this, go look at all the troons on here, discord and reddit. A lot of them take all the shots have been transitioning for years and guess what there still fucking miserable.
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>>41517139
>Transitioning doesn't work, you are just going to end up as a social pariah and a freak.
I'm already on 6 months of HRT and already have tits...
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>>41517155
Congrats, you're a man with tits
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>>41517034
god did not curse you
these horrors you're dealing with are 100% manmade
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>>41517162
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>41517132
Nothing I have said is wrong or referring to "stunted development". It is not my fault you do not understand basic developmental biological concepts such as critical periods.
But again, it is very typical that uneducated and unexceptional men speak confidently over women about subjects they know nothing about, and demean them when they say something they do not like. So, to put it simply: you're just proving my point lmfao
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>>41517213
Critical periods sound like a female problem. Stay mad
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>>41517213
Are you a girl though?
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>>41517225
It's a TERF. Don't encourage it. It needs to learn its place.
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>>41517113

If any of what you said is true then how can you explain people learning new languages, or any substantial new systems after age 10?
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>>41517246
No. It can't. It stopped learning at 10 and presumably by its own logic still behaves like a 10 year old.
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>>41517213
jesus fucking redditspeak please fuck off back to the ackshully dungeon
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>>41517221
No it's something that every human experiences. It's why learning language becomes impossible if you miss your critical period for language learning.
And it's why, if you are male socialized during your critical period for socialization, you cannot stop your male rage from showing the moment a woman disagrees with you slightly.

>>41517236
Dehumanizing women. Very feminine. Though I understand why you're mad.
See, women in society are often forced to take on the emotional labor of men. We are forced to be sympathetic to men, and if we don't we are shown to be evil. If I was a man, I doubt you would be half as angry. Because for some reason, being a female who does not care is a million times worse a crime than being an indifferent male.

>>41517246
Your critical period for learning a language is where you develop the capabilities in your brain for language. So if you know how to speak one language, you can use these facilities to speak a different language.
But if you do not learn any language during this period, you cannot develop full linguistic capabilities in any language. We can see these in children like Victor of Aveyron and Genie who did not develop linguistic capabilities and were not able to speak past a rudimentary level when people tried to teach them on later in life.
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>>41517267
>women in society are often forced to take on the emotional labor of men. We are forced to be sympathetic to men
Bait used to be believable
Try again in the next thread
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>>41517278
Why did my thread turned into this? I just wanted to vent.
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>>41517267
So much for that "female emotional intelligence" if you think you've gotten people mad. This isn't Reddit. People are going to disagree with you and not be nice about it, and you ought to learn not to be a whiny sniveling cunt about it. Femanons fifteen years ago had thicker skin than you do, and would respond in kind instead of with cowardly passive aggression. An excellent demonstration of adaptation outside your "critical period," incidentally.
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>>41517297
turn*
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>>41517297
A female decided to shit up the thread. It's what females do. They can't let males have anything of their own, because they're paranoid af, because they suspect males of plotting like females do when they get together.
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>>41517278
See, you still think like a man.
Men often only confide or be vulnerable to their mothers or wives. When is a man vulnerable to another man? It's always to a woman in his life. Women are expected to take on the role of therapists for men.
>>41517299
You do sound rather angry. But if you say "i'm not mad" a few dozen more times I'll have no choice but to believe you I suppose.
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>>41517313
Typical cunt behavior: try to needle males into getting mad, then run crying about the scary male if they succeed. If a male doesn't get mad, then either he's secretly mad, or he's a bad person for ignoring her.
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>>41517267
>It's why learning language becomes impossible if you miss your critical period for language learning?
are we for real? i was inclined to take your side (as a pseudo-terf) but like. billingual people just dont exist??
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>>41517278
Homosexual men have no need for women and no need to entertain their bullshit. This often vexes malicious women, who are accustomed to being able to manipulate men.
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>>41517335
Bilingual people learn a mother tongue during their critical period for language. So the faculties for speaking a language develop in their brain, and they can use those same faculties to speak any other language.
If you do not learn ANY language during that critical period, you will not have those faculties and your ability to speak in any language will be heavily hindered.

There was a girl called Genie in America whose parents locked her up and never spoke to her for 13 years. She never learned how to speak any language at all (including English) in her critical period for languages. She can only speak in broken sentences and cannot speak fluently and properly despite psychologist's best efforts to try and teach her.
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>>41517335
TERFs engage in a radicalization spiral and end up believing absurd distortions of what they started out with. It's why they believe no MTFs pass. It's why they believe any man attracted to an MTF (but not to any cis men) must be secretly bisexual.
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>>41517299
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>>41517359
just use a trip atp, samefag
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>>41517370
I never claimed to be different people, idiot.
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>>41517377
control your moid rage it's kind of embarrassing. try some breathing exercises.
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>>41517354
ohhh okay makes more sense i misinterpreted what u originally said. i do still wonder the implications of everything because there are people (like me) who because of complicated reasons didnt get very much socialization at all, and i think im mostly okay? obviously its not nothing id be WAY more screwed over if i got literally no socialization but im hesitant to believe its as black and white as what youre saying implies
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>>41517387
Perhaps if you came up with something original then you'd have a chance of succeeding, cunt. As it is, all you've got is "u mad"
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>>41517393
well i don't think socialization is a binary thing or necessarily based upon biology. that's why i said earlier that socialization, not biology is the key factor. there are many cases where you can unlearn male socialization, but that involves recognizing your male socialization, and going through the huge effort of unlearning it. all i have said in this thread is that it is a massive effort and that most people do not even try to unlearn it, instead they just hurl insults at you for even suggesting male/female-socialization is real.
so unfortunately, for the vast majority of transgender people, they will never unlearn it.
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>>41517393
You're fine. You're just dealing with a TERF trying to discourage you. Even if you're a bit rough around the edges socially, you'll pick things up as you go.
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>>41517409
but you are lol. you're just throwing insults after insults, and continuing to engage. those are the two unmistakable signs of a person who is maddest they've ever been
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>>41517335
>billingual people just dont exist??
americans are so funny. they always talk like being BI-lingual is the cool one and somehow special. in europe — at least outside britain — literally everyone is at LEAST bilingual. its when you know more than 2 or 3 languages that youre considered a person who knows languages. an european wouldnt have said "bilingual people dont exist?" but rather "people who speak multiple languages dont exist?"
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>>41517113
biggest retard on tttt award and thats saying something. i bet you feel like youre so much smarter than others
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>>41517419
okay nevermind yeah thats basically what i think too. i think its really hard but socialization from a young age can at the very least be altered, though maybe not entirely reversed
>>41517423
im socially stunted not stupid, but thank you
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>>41517454
ok alice
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>>41517454
It does. For example, it thinks I'm extremely mad when really I'm tired but I've been unable to fall asleep.
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>>41517475
>im not maddd im just tiredddd
what's next? your little brother actually typed all that and it wasn't you?
it's so funny how archetypically mad you are.
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>>41517034
Everyone gets nerfed in one way or another
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>>41517484
Looks like you're the one who is continuing to engage. I wasn't even replying to you.
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>>41517501
>nooo im not mad
>im just tired i get upset when im groggy :(
>no YOU'RE mad
how are you being continuing to this cartoonishly mad dude. genuinely what's next? are you gonna make a whistle sound and have steam come out from your ears?
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>>41517354
You really took like one early development psych class and think you know everything.

You dont know what your talking about retard
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>>41517419

Damn that goalpist sure loves moving
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>>41517526
Anything that serves the anti-trans position in the moment.
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>>41517518
i don't think i know everything, critical periods are taught in high school psychology. i thought people would know what im talking about but apparently not. the other guy refused to even believe that they're real lmao.
so please explain how i'm wrong.
>>41517526
literally said in my original post:
>they are extremely hard to change.
which is like exactly the same thing i'm saying now. but you know, i get that the average person here is a high-school drop out and literacy is not really your forte.
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>>41517532
Ye critical periods are not gonna make you intrinsicly male socialized or whatever. Its really easy to unlearn male socialization anyways,and if your trans it doesnt stick anyways.

Like you can just read a bunch of feminist litature and make sure your not exhibiting behaviours men do. And ut turns out I never exhibited those attitudes and behaviours that hold up the patriarchy to begin with.

Its why we all got called faggots snd beat up by cis kids. Cause even before transition we are inherently different from men.

My body language was always feminine, I adopted talking like a girl and had to practice talking like a guy so I didnt get beat up.

I never perpetuated the male gaze or male sexuality because I was never attracted to woman.

Its not as simple as: you were raised a male you are now permamale its actually so stupid to believe that
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>>41517113
It actually is possible

You can't unsocialize yourself, but you can resocialize yourself.

Identity fractionalization, hypnosis, exposure therapy, repetition.

Conscious ontological and psychological transformation



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