>>41517279
It’s instant

>>41517298
Wdym, you don’t magically wake up looking like a faggot the second you take hrt.

manmoding is crossdressing, don’t make me participate in ur sick fetish

>>41517310
How is it cross dressing? I’m just a man on estrogen.

>>41517279
depends on your hair, I made everyone around me extremely uncomfortable before I cut it off. if you're alright with having shorter hair, you can probs get away with indefinite manmoding I'd you're okay with dying in summer.

>>41517279
Indefinetly

>>41517659
yeah a true moder modes forever

>>41517279
I'm on year 4, I'm going for the gradual subtle transition. Each year I save up for a new procedure, each month I try to learn something new, dressing, makeup, doing hair, etc etc. I probably won't socially transition until I'm 30 something. If I malefail frequently enough I suppose I'd accept myself.

>>41517614
why did your hair make everyone uncomfortable?

>>41517279
Soon as you get gyno and grow out your hair it's weird

>>41517808
>>41517813

I was also a bit baffled by it because the hair thing happened but cishet people probably just think: long hair/estrogenized skin = woman???? does not compute...


I'm ffs/hrt manmoding and I rarely malefail I think (I can only say I malefailed when some waiter genders me correctly or something like that) but often times I get weird looks or stares. Also when I pass people on a bike it sometimes happens that men are smiling at me which makes me think they think I'm a woman. But as soon as I talk or its not a fleeting situation I just get treated like a guy.

Essentally it depends on anatomy. The more feminine your face and body proportions are the weirder it will get.

>>41517279
Forever. Im 6 years hrt manmoder with breasts too big to really bind and a coworker genuinely confided in me that he thinks a guy at our work is a faggot the other day in a casual insulting homophobic way.
Granted, moids are retarded and basically blind.

>>41517838
was getting ffs worth it in your opinion

>>41517861

yeah, it helps a lot for dysphoria. I only got brow shave and rhino because my face is fairly feminine but I have a broad upper body. So I think the mix of my face and body shape weirds people out. I would like to have a more agressive nose job and other stuff but it would be detrimental for manmoding because it would take away plausible deniability potential.

>>41517838
why the fuck are you manmoding and cut your hair when you could clearly pass so well if you put the slightest effort into it? god i hate reppers

>>41517808
cause having long feminine hair and an androgynous face makes you look like a twinkhon. a lot of people will gender you female untill they hear your voice, but even if you have a passing female voice any sort of extended interaction is going to make it obvious that you're a tranny. passing during casual interactions and actually passing are two different things. and I'd rather be an effeminate faggot freak, that seems like an alright guy once we talk, than a confirmed troon. people will be weird around you if you have long hair, but they'll get over it and you'll eventually be socially accepted, it's infinitely better than being classed a troon and being a permanent social outcast.

>>41517279
I got FFS and a BA, and most people never asked or said anything, and just address me as male

>>41517877
>>41517907
also to add to this, any sort of flare up of something like perioral melasma from being out in the sun too long, or even a bad haircut will make you look more masculine, so it's not really worth it to present as a woman tbhondesu

>>41517877
I put a lot of effort into saving for FFS, but I can’t be assed to do the same for voice training, clothes or makeup
it is what it is. I’ll just get VFS at some point and manmode for the rest of my life