Any other trannies here who were harmed by theyfabs, libs, and/or "leftists"? I'm sure this is a more common occurrence but I don't see anyone talking about it other than pick-me rightoid trannies on YouTube. I'm talking about stuff like being lynched for talking about DIY, saying that medical care for trans people is more important than the concerns of cis people with pronouns, or being anti-islam (as a consequence of being anti-religion in general, not the anti-immigrant sort of anti-islam)
I'm a leftoid tranny and leftist trans misogyny is literally the reason I didn't come out, I boymoded for a year because of the abusive things i heard from so-called leftists on a supposedly progressive campus, and I delayed transitioning knowing zero other trans women and then one trans woman who lived in Georgia until my senior year of college. before I was on HRT I tried to tell a group that I used to crossdress on imageboards and that I thought it was gender dysphoria but I was cut off and told to stop talking before I could continue. there were very few trans girls present and in the same place, I was talking about wearing skinny jeans (which I would do frequently, while tucking) and I got treated like I was delusional and that I shouldn't wear them because I have a penis. about 5 years ago I lived with my landlord who was highly trans misogynistic as well, who raped me and the funniest part is that she identified as a Marxist and had Marxist / psychoanalysis reading groups on discord that she was in every day. eventually I gave up on mainstream, reddit leftists and became a lot more attracted to the trans fem alt lit scene especially around surfaces.cx who saw themselves as the like, spiritual successor of porpentine and her era of queer lit. I got into writing ultraviolent erotica one of which, ironically about my ex boyfriend who victimized me was weaponized by another leftoid trannies in a cancellation attempt ~3 years ago involving the rapist landlord, who has been stalking me since I moved out of her house.I haven't experienced anything for being pro DIY and saying medical care for trannies is more important than nonbinaries because I try to avoid drama now but I have been extremely disappointed with some of the latest discourse to say the least. for instance testosterone is being pushed on lesbians and cisgender women by doctors and I think that this is frankly comparable to the "husband stitch" among other forms of institutionalized rape. and more
>>41518163Ah yeah I got stalked by "leftists" too after I was cancelled. Gotta make sure after all that something as dangerous as one (1) tranny with "bad" opinions doesn't step a foot outside otherwise she might wreak havoc on an entire group of leftoids. They say they want to fight fascism but one stupid tranny is what brings them to their knees and forces them to throw out all the virtue signaling they had been doing and makes them use violence against a single person, but it had to be done, their hand was forced, tragic. I was also sexually assaulted and raped by several leftist women and men over the years, I guess trannies make a good target for them because no one believes you or really cares about a tranny getting sexually assaulted.I didn't know there was something like a trans fem alt lit scene. I read hot allostatic load after everything that happened to me and it made so much sense to me. I thought about writing or making art that deals with what happened to me but after everything I'm just so burned out I feel like I can't get anything done. And I'm still extremely scared of it happening again. What if I create something and then get dogpiled again, maybe even have someone dig up the last cancellation stuff and use it as "proof" that I'm basically just some evil creature that deserved everything.I've also given up on almost all leftists. Most of them aren't even really left-wing imo. And even more "radical leftists" I've come across (including Marxists and anarchists) have turned out to be shit most of the time. They will side with liberals over trannies as long as it's convenient for them.One thing that makes me really sad and angry is that a lot of trannies will participate in all of this. We don't really have a lot of people who care about us so it's extra painful to see a tranny harm another tranny just to fit in.
>>41518310the trans fem alt lit scene is actually quite prolific but I will say that if you're expecting a group of safe people to be around it's not gonna be there. only real thing to do is to move very carefully offline, pick your friends well and understand you probably won't be able to be completely yourself in any one context. personally I am always juggling multiple social groups that I occasionally do things with, I don't think this is completely necessary but I'm so disaffected it's hard for me to situate myself in with one group of people at all.porpentines other work is great and honestly it's a bit disappointing that most people's context into her is the essay that she's seemingly had a lot of inner turmoil over the years. most of their stuff is oriented towards trans mascs (and honestly still good if you're into that sort of thing) now but a lot of their older writing is still very dear to my heart.i want to say its seriously okay to write something either very fucked up and rant-y for catharsis or somrthing very superficial and light like ice cream YA slop. i do both, simply because they bring me joy. or i make creative imageboard posts lol.I agree on leftism. I used to identify with various labels like post leftist for this reason but I realized it's not about the political label really, it's about a willingness to both deeply interrogate what you've been taught and to take your own desires and values seriously. many just want a group to be part of, or an identity to cling to. it disappoints me that it's trannies doing this too. I think the main thing that's changed between HAL being written and now is how trans women have integrated into these systems and fed other trans women into the lower parts of the machine. now it's trans women doing many of the same violent things that TMEs would have done in the past. even trans fems who bring up hot allostatic load and make themselves out as on a more sympathetic side of things can be so petty
>>41518065They're so insufferable... Everything is the moral olympics, everything is problematic. Why fight fascism when we can get mad at someone having Mindless Self Indulgence on their Spotify playlist? Why fight fascism when we could be upset that someone is playing Harry Potter and the Game that Disappeared after Initial Hype?And then they go quiet when someone is genuinely racist, transphobic, or discriminatory because they used up all their energy on bullshit. Oh, and muh social anxiety. Sometimes it just feels like a way to police people's behaviors, but almost never the cis/straight/males in their lives. Mostly it's the trannies, because our friend groups are smaller and they can be kicked out easier.
theyfabs all get off on telling others what they are and arent allowed to do. they want everyone on earth to be molded into a copy of them in mind body and soul so if you have an amab manly penis or like "problematic media" that means youve got to go in their mind
>>41518376I don't really go outside at all anymore, so doing anything offline isn't an option unfortunately, I wish it was, but my city is relatively small so the chances are high that someone will have heard things about me or is friends with someone that harmed me. I want to move but it feels completely impossible. I'm too scared to even ask some LGBT organizations or shared flats/houses for cheap housing elsewhere because I'm worried I will just be abused again too. Right now I don't really see how I won't just be homeless eventually.I kinda wish I never got involved with leftists or activism of any kind at all at this point because I feel like I would be a lot better off had I never met any of these people. One thing I really wanted to do was help other trannies but I think it would have been better to just focus on a career and then buy HRT for others or help them out some other way.Yeah I think you're right about what you said about labels too. I've read about mobbing and stuff like that a lot and it seems like almost all groups just devolve into these abusive structures no matter what ideology they say they subscribe to.>>41518407I feel like this version of identity politics and all that has to have been some sort of psyop to completely incapacitate the left, but then again I trust leftists to shoot themselves in the foot all by themselves without the help of the CIA or whatever.It's so frustrating how you can get cancelled for saying the wrong thing or liking the wrong thing. Obviously some things are bad to say but people should also be allowed to make mistakes, or have different opinions, and all of that doesn't justify ostracizing them. And like you said when someone is genuinely being awful they don't really care. It often felt like they would tolerate a Nazi as long as he'd make sure to use the politically correct terms while he executes a tranny.
>>41518065Yeah even as a communist I don't think calling out a lot of left-wing spaces for still being misogynist and phobic, just coated in woke language and conventions which can also be used to turn against minorities, should be that controversial. It's legitimately just true. Be it in some (not all, mostly the more "traditional" ML or trotskyist ones) marxist communities where stuff is seen as bourgeois perversion even if they don't say it out loud, or lib & anarchist ones where their own comfiness takes precedent and you'll be chastised if you don't fit their very narrow conventions & views/are not useful to them.But all in all the odds are still better than in most anywhere else to be somewhat respected.
>>41518163I love this artist literally just liked their post !
>>41518570Who's the artist?
You may think rightoids are mean because they think the wrong things, but they are generally nicer people than leftists.
>>41518938I mean they're really nice until they find out what you are and think. Maybe you can get by if you try to be a pick-me, but when you dare disagree on an issue or get them drunk the slurs and worse come out.T. it's been literally under a week since I got punched in a bar after a pleasant chat turned awry when I tried to politely push back against anti-trans policy positions.
>>41519028Discourse is dead, that's kind of everybody's faultPersonally I really enjoy those type of convos so a lot of my favorite conversation partners are people who think wildly different from me
Yes hey hello! Them, radfems, and transmeds and my conservative parents filled me with a huge amount of fear and catastrophism regarding transition rhat i literally kept coming oht and desisting because i couldnt handle the pressure and then one day i just took the hrt and it was super easy and nothing drastic happened and basically i hate cissociety
>>41518938Depends. The nice thing about most rightoids at least is that they don't do the stupid virtue signaling and other stuff, so you at least know more or less what their values are, in contrast to most leftoids who say they support trannies but actually hate them.>>41519028>Maybe you can get by if you try to be a pick-me, but when you dare disagree on an issue or get them drunk the slurs and worse come out.To be fair this also happens with leftoids
>>41519185I'm just saying that strength and virtue are more common among rightoids and strong, virtuous people aren't as vindictive or needlessly violent. There are scum lumpen in every group but I'm talking about averages.
>>41519223This might be true from a rightoid perspective, but I would say voting to take away the rights of trannies is needlessly violent.
>>41519518The entire idea of voting is a leftoid conceptIn a rightoid world a just king would protect the ancient rights of all his subjects even the trannies
you make leftists sound better than they are lmao
>>41519028>it's been literally under a week since I got punched in a bar after a pleasant chat turned awry when I tried to politely push back against anti-trans policy positionslol average right wing battered tranny
>>41518938that would require right winger to only think things and not truly live according to right wing values. In truth they are wolves in sheeps clothing
It seems like the issue here is that trans women, having been abandoned by (or proactively did the abandoning of) their pre-transition family and friend group, sought a replacement family through online "leftist" communities, and were unprepared for the fact that extremely online activist types are prone to purity testing and woke shaming as a substitute for having any actual values of their ownThe quickest way to radicalize yourself against any group of people is to immerse yourself in their internet community and expect emotional fulfillment or support
>>41519634>online "leftists"No this is very much about "leftists" IRL. Have you ever been to a university campus? All of them act like that, the left is dead and only libs with tumblr-brainrot remain
>>41519581Living according to right wing values is what makes people strong and virtuous
>>41519659>the left is deadis that a bad thing? If you say yes that would make you a leftist lol
>>41519686yeah but you actually have to live it. If you only think things while in truth being completely tolerant you are just a liberal with edgy opinions
>>41519689It would be a good thing if those people would have gotten radicalized instead of just being indoctrinated into being mindless libs
>>41519700why would that be a good thing?
ive gotten strange looks for mentioning diy hrt, even from other trans women. most trans women ive met at my excessively white college are nonpassing, heavily leftist, have juvenile interests, and a masculine disposition. i cant help but feel theyve been absorbed into something thats literally actually harming them and preventing them from living how they want to live. theyre treated like pets for other liberals to feel sorry for and dote on, and they accept that role. im the only one in my dorm that has undergone any significant form of change in terms of where i appear to be on the sex binary. its so clear that leftism serves to insulate and sate the dysphoric while treating them according to sex roles rather than gender roles. for every leftist vtuber or artist i see online its the same pattern of sensitivity and stagnancy. there are thousands of patricia taxxons for people with the eyes to see it, and they will never know what its like to be treated like a womant. kathoey adjacent womanthing
>>41519703Why would it not be?
>>41519716Radicals use terroristic violence to harm people...
>>41519714>ive gotten strange looks for mentioning diy hrt, even from other trans women. most trans women ive met at my excessively white college are nonpassing, heavily leftist, have juvenile interests, and a masculine disposition.It's interesting that this is so common. In an ideal world hondosed trannies would be forced to take DIY
>>41519734i cant even hate them. they clearly have body dysphoria but barely even take the first steps to addressing it. its sad. since so many trans women are like this, or pickmes, ive opted out. the whole term "trans" is so stifling
if you have a problem with the left the last thing you'd want is for them to become TRVE radicals. Lib left will cancel you out of a DSA meeting, radleft will shoot you or send you to do force labor and rob you of your property by force for "redistribution"
>>41519536In a rightoid world each man would be absolute monarch of his own home and expressing statist sympathies would get you killed on the spot. The mere existence of a king (or any form of government) violates the idea that all men have equal rights.
>>41519836Hierarchy is a core part of rightoid ideas, indeed it is modeled on the family. The king is pater familia to all those under his protection and acts as a first among equals whose primary duty is to protect the customs, laws, rights and bodies of all those under his protection. Social class mirrors breeding and aptitude but all are responsible to one another in the great chain of being
Got cornered and groped by a lesbian "feminist" at a club who claimed she was being a good ally because girls like me (see tranny) "want the attention" like her awkwardly feeling me up and telling me all the stuff she wanted to do to me was gonna make my night so much better. She's also bitched that non-passing trannies make her "uncomfy" and other bullshit like that. God I'm so glad I have the self respect to not hang around people like her anymore.
>>41519803its honestly a shit show. i do feel like they get absorbed by the gender identity side of the issue, and try to power through the dysphoria by living constantly hugboxxed (your body is falling apart, but you're valid!) and diminished by their peers. its clear to me that they need help, dont know where to start, reach out and get nothing from those who were supposed to help them. its just repping with a different change of clothes.t. tranny that was once stuck in the situation you described
>>41519862Right wingers support natural hierarchies such as parents over children. Governments are unnatural, artificial constructs that exist to elevate child molesting thieves above the rest of us.
>>41519976oh you reprobate upstart, the divine authority of kings is as natural an authority as authority can be
>>41519976Nations are a natural evolution from the ever increasing scale of family-tribe-clan. Governments are things made of power and are subject to the corruption of power, which is why the only just state is one informed and sanctified by an independent ecclesiasarchy of some kind.
>>41520016The divine authority of kings is an absolutist construct that does not reflect the majority of monarchies in world history let alone European history.Which is why people are more free on average under monarchies, it hacks politics by removing it from most people's lives.
>>41519659I went to one of the most notoriously leftist schools in the country, the people you're describing existed but they were also extremely easy to avoid
