Men, alone, should determine who breeds or not. The biggest problem in society is letting women, who are functionally retarded, determine which genes go to the next generation. Women have terrible taste in everything and basically exist as irl villains and monsters to make men's lives miserable.
>>41527632imagine caring about who breeds with whom, what type of miserable person one need to be to care
>>41527632Let me guess, women didn't choose to breed with your ugly ass?
>>41527751imagine simping online for females who hate you
>>41527632If men wanted to be the sexual selectors, they should've become househusbands and caretakers. The ONLY male animals in nature that get to do the sexual selecting are the ones that take the role of incubating eggs and take on majority/all of the parental duties.
>>41527806men are way better at raising kids than women are
>>41527632Breeding should be treated like the unspeakable horror that it is, when there's a pregnancy or a full gestational hellspawn, everyone acts like it's a beautiful and great thing, while I can barely conceal my disgust. And if you pay attention it's women driving this. Femininity is the source of all insanity.>>41527751Average foid reponse.
>>41527842foids are terrible people
>>41527767>>41527842>>41527864Never has an attractive or successful man complained about women choosing men, only uggos, manlets and losers. Which one are you?
>>41527894Most women would be uggos, manlets, and losers if they had a Y chromosome.
>>41527904And?
>>41527914women are antisocial monsters
>>41527916How come only undesirable men say that? Why aren't hot, tall, rich men with dozens of women throwing themselves at them claiming that?
>>41527925because everyone else is scared to lose points for speaking the truth
>>41527632How this LGBT?
>>41527932Lose points with who? The evil women they supposedly hate (and therefore should have no issue with losing points with), or the based men that also know the truth?
>>41527914And so that means they would be incels themselves. Being a social outcast really fucks with someone's psychology.
>>41527955the matriarchy that rules us all
>>41527925>Men who get no women should just accept their place and suck it up!This is why those men are violent by the way.
>>41527955Losing points with Chad, duhOP wants Chad and Brad's social approval, that sweet, sweet male validation.
>>41527964women don't care at all about men's feelings
>>41527916complete opposite. women are SO much nicer people on average. its bizarre how big the difference is. and its not women committing like 90+% of violent crimes. just go look up empathy quotient graphs right now
>>41527964so don't accept it. make yourself look better, act better, or go to therapy. actually do something instead of posting online. right now what you're doing is just accepting that you're always going to be undesirable instead of putting any effort in
>>41527964What's the alternative? Forcing 10/10 girls to breed with them? Because we know those guys don't want uglies, fatties, old ladies, mentally ill women or single moms which are in their league
>>41527980women are the cruelest humans of all
>>41527981Sorry boo, but women haven't always had power over choosing who gets to breed. It used to me man's choice. The pendulum will eventually swing because women are getting more and more intolerable as time goes on. Our ancestors gave them no rights for a reason.
>>41527994The alternative is patriarchy.>forcing girlsDon't care.
>>41527981This is all terrible advice. Instead you should realistically assess yourself and lower your standards. You could be very happy with a single mother goblina wife.
>>41527999>It used to me man's choice.literally never
>>41527997good argument and convincing evidence
>>41528018Women from non-noble families were property of the male heads of family in the majority of ancient civilizations.
>>41528036property meaning you are cared for and get free shit for doing nothing
>>41528040Yes even when women legally belong to men, men STILL treat them better than how women treat men.
>>41528036Did you know that in those times the ratio of females to males reproducing was higher than it is now? Women may have been property but they just cucked the shit out of their owners.
>>41528036Except non-noble women typically had more freedom in who to marry since there was no wealth/form political alliances involved
>>41528047>belongaka you get to spend money you didn't make
>>41528048That ratio is pre-historical and it has no way to accurately compare the difference in rate between those who live in the city and outside of it. The whole point of civilization is man's triumph over nature, and that includes women as women have always been symbols of nature.>>41528057Father always had final say, and as far as options go a woman had maybe between choice of 20 guys in a village. There was a woman for every man. Nothing like today where women have literally thousands of options and no accountability.>>41528066Yes and in exchange is sex and loyalty. No martial eape protections back then either. The concept in itself is superfluous.
>>41527894>a man doesn't want to impregnate you>REEE INCEL REEEEEEElol, never change foids
>>41528074>Nothing like today where women have literally thousands of optionsSounds like you're mad women aren't forced to pick you just because you're the only bachelor in the village kek
>>41528074>has no way to accurately compare the difference in rate between those who live in the city and outside of itWhat do you think would change if you controlled for that?
>>41528083>a man doesn't want to impregnate youMeds
>>41528085Why should men as a collective allow women to pick at all? Why should men give women the power of deciding who gets to have a family and who does not? That is not in our collective interest as a sex.
>>41528074I'm sure women were never disloyal and got free shit anyways :^)
>>41528106Sure but back then disloyalty could be punished by death.
>>41528094>a man still doesn't want to impregnate you>REEEE HE MUST BE INSANE QUICK CHEMICALLY LOBOTOMIZE HIMaverage foid response
>>41528100Why should women go through pregnancy and birth which is risky for their health and lives for a male they did not pick? That's disadvantageous to them as a sex
>>41528111This thread is about moids seething about being sexless and not being able to spread their genes lmao, who is being denied impregnation?
>>41528100But it is in the individual interest of the men that women would pick.
>>41528119shouldn't be their choice
>>41528119Correct. Either men have the power or women do. I'm just going to be on the side of my biological sex.>>41528133No it's not.
>>41528100Even if men picked, the most successful men would get the best women and poor/powerless men would still get either nothing (because heads of families wouldn't pick them/disapprove) or the leftovers like uglies, fatties, single moms, etc., which is the same choices the average low tier man has now. Nothing changes.
>>41528126You, evidently. Show us on the doll where moids didn't want to touch you :(
>>41528155Yes it is.
>>41527842It is mostly men who want kids nowadays. Women are choosing not to have kids because of its horrible effects on the body and the great burden it is to have a child.>>41528047Yes being property, being battered and raped and forced by your husband to have 12 children until you die of childbirth, having to do whatever men tell you, being blamed for others raping you, etc. is surely the best treatment out there.
>>41528163Clearly something has changed when more young men are single now than they used to be. It means clearly we are on the verge of conflict.
>>41528174>Yes being property, being battered and raped and forced by your husband to have 12 children until you die of childbirth, having to do whatever men tell you, being blamed for others raping you, etc. is surely the best treatment out there.Who cares? It should have never stopped. And god willing it will come back. Giving women liberty is the gravest errors of mankind.
>>41528177It means people are more disconnected than ever and would prefer their creature comforts over the work it is to find a partner. That combined with many women just giving up on dating men or finding a romantic partner because of the shitty experiences they've had trying to date men anyway.
>>41528186property just means you get fed
>>41528186You said>Yes even when women legally belong to men, men STILL treat them better than how women treat men.If you really think that, maybe you think men would be better off if men were the property of women were treated like that.
>>41528188No it means a lot of guys are just priced out of the dating market period. Every man dreams of a nice young girl to light up their heart. Reality is that women are not that.
>>41528201That is not contradictory to what I said.
>>41528174I'm not sure that's true. I think men say they want children more but aren't serious about actually being fathers. This is completely anecdotal but I've been a part of the pronatal-lgbt community for a while and there are way more lesbians looking for sperm donors than gays looking for surrogates. I've also donated to several straight SMBCs who say they were in long term relationships with men who said they wanted children but constantly put it off.
>>41528195Reality for men is harsher at all times. Women's position of weakness buys them extreme comfort. It's men who constantly bare the brunt of reality.
>>41528210Because if a father slips up even slightly he's a monster and the kids are taken away and if he was a gay man who adopted he only did it because he's a groomer pedophile. Whereas women can get away with literal murder and they are forgiven.If you were a man, why would you subject yourself to that? Why take the risk?
>>41528212It would only be fair for women to bear the brunt of reality, then, and take ownership of men and boys, and decide who gets to breed with whom, and enforce this via rape, battery, and murder. Let women privilege men, as men deserve it after centuries in their unprivileged position.
>>41528216I think it's a good thing that only men who are willing to take that risk reproduce. Need to keep the pussy MRAs out of the gene pool.
>>41528224All that will do is lead to more kids in foster care. Kids deserve heterosexual parents because if things go splitsville, there's a woman who can take over the parenting. A man's role is to be the paypig.
>>41528206It is contradictory because I am arguing that it's power women have over men and can only be taken from women by men.>>41528220Women don't have the strength for this.
>>41528240>Women don't have the strength for this.No. Men really are better at domination and oppression. That's why most societies are patriarchal. I'm really just trying to point out how contradictory it is that you say women should be subjected to such treatment again and that this treatment is actually a privileged one.
>>41528248In a society where men are oppressing other men women will still get the superior treatment over men, that is not contradictory in the slightest.
>>41528248all societies are matriarchal that's just how monkeys are as animals
>>41528261>all societies are matriarchalWhy do men make up 99.999% of leaders of countries, CEOs of businesses, etc.?
>>41528364Because they're the ones dumb enough to spend their whole life working.
>>41528391So true
>>41528364those are high risk, high stress jobs, women just want to stay home and scroll