mtfs, what do you think of ftms? ftms, what do you think of mtfs?
I'm cool with ftms unless they're the type that dislikes trans women then I feel the need to dislike them back
>>41537403Also forgot to mention I don't like trans women making pooner jokes and w/e else because it is mean
>>41537270i dont think t. mtf
They are hott
>>41537270imo ftms dont talk enough and mtfs talk too much.i like all my trans friends but its a pattern ive noticed. its unfortunate more ftms dont make an effort to actually escape social conditioning, as i know theyd love to talk but are scared of saying the "wrong thing" :(
>>41537270i'm mtf and I try to see ftms as women with severe internalized mysogyny caused because of distress over their body and patriarchy. I mean, who would not prefer this instead of trying to transition into a dickless man. But there are too many trutrans ftms out there so...
I want an ftm bf. I love them
>>41537270ftms are just butch lesbians who want to score "straight" women or autistic straight women with a special interest in being male and experiencing gay love. The latter are actually the closest to being male ironically
>>41537478So much for "female socialization" of women talking all the time and "male socialization" of men being quiet and stoic.
>>41537270want a ftm bf but idk any irl
>>41537270we should get married and she should let me get her pregnant
>>41537270I don't have much experience with trans women but I like their electronic music, and the ones on my Tiktok fyp.
i love ftms as much as i love any other tranny in theory but in reality i've only met two. one was a deeply evil person that i hated and the other was a chill autist that i wanted to be friends with but missed the chance. so i guess in reality it's 50/50
>>41537270mtf schizos and autists are my favorite musicians and usually my funner friends i like them
>>41537270I get along alright with ftms who aren't terfs but a lot of them are terfs.
>>41537270most ftms fail to differentiate their behavior profile from women the way us mtfs do similarly. watching a bunch of pooners try to pretend they understand the male mindset is nearly laughable in practice.
>>41537840We be doing our own thing
>>41537840have you considered that cis women probably think of you the same way?
>>41538338what is it about my post that gave you the impression I didn't realize that? Was it the seething cope generated by witnessing someone on hrt having self awareness and pattern recognition?
>>41537270i dont like mtfs because they are a neverending optics bomb and commit most of the rapes within the community. a faketrans ftm is an annoying attention seeker who makes afab only spaces that hurts mtfs feelings. this isnt good but its manageable. a faketrans mtf is a male that wants to rape and harass everyone. they commit sex crimes against straight men, cis women, trans men, and even other trans women. and they cant leave children alone. if you say anything against this behavior its "transmisogyny". there are mtfs that arent sex pests but theyre rare and support the sex pests.
>>41537270mtfs are women
>>41537270Most mtfs I've met are genuinely good people and I see them as women or woman brained, but I have sadly had my share of nasty trans women and even dated one which didn't go over well. I try to not let my personal experiences sour my overall perception.
>>41537270I'm chill with mtfs when I remind myself that this place isn't a representative sample of my fellow transsexuals
>>41537270The FTMs who are basically men, or the FTMs who are basically women?
>>41537270As a mtf I've had bad experiences with both. Every mtf interaction eventually ends up in some form of gate keeping transness for the "good ones". ftm interactions end up with me having to be their mommy in some way, or they tell me to shut up and run around behind my back making shit up. I hope I find my people some day.
>>41537478>imo ftms dont talk enough and mtfs talk too much.>i like all my trans friends but its a pattern ive noticed. its unfortunate more ftms dont make an effort to actually escape social conditioning, as i know theyd love to talk but are scared of saying the "wrong thing" :(because mtf's and the whole fem aligned queer community will swarm them if they don't communicate something perfectly and take everyone elses feelings into account firstftm's aren't allowed to have their own experiences they're meant to be erased /splus I swear to god mtf's are jealous of the misogyny that ftm's have actually experienced or it makes them feel "dysphoric" (help someone had an experience alien to my own and it's taking sympathy points away from meeeeee)
mtfs are chill and in some cases smoking hot>ftm
I would like to try ftm but im invisible to them. I stare at every ftm i see but they just cant notice me...
>>41537511But men do talk more than women. When women talk as much as men in equal amounts, they are perceived to be dominating the conversation.Women talking more than men is a stereotype where the opposite is the truth. So this is just normal AGAB socialization.
>>41537270I love my ftm bros. I'm friends with quite a few. I feel a lot of sympathy for them because I imagine whatever I desire to have is the same stuff that would be nightmare fuel for them. I also love making certain characters canonically trans men in my mind, like Leon from Resident Evil or Link from Zelda. Anyway trans guys are hot and would. >>41537511This reminds me of how ingrained misogyny is into men without them noticing. They did this study of men and women talking to each other and they had to report how much they felt the other sex was speaking. All the men reported the women talking way more than the men, but when they broke down how much each group was talking, men spoke 70% of the time. Women talking even a little is often times too much for men.
>>41537270I want to suck ftm tdick.
i've never gotten along with a single ftm in my life. i'm a pretty autistic transfem and i'll ramble a lot about my interests or raise my hand a lot in college classes to ask questions, and every single pooner i've been around fucking despises me for it, quickly goes from tolerating me to blatantly telling me to shut up. and they always get catty about it too, like, in a very socialize fem way but also with the condescending nature and biological advantage over me that a man has which makes me uncomfortable and feel unsafe. this has happened at least like 7 timesthe first person i knew irl was a tomboy who came out as trans and he kinda berated me for being so adamant about getting on hormones cuz he didn't want to and thought i was crazy for not wanting to be like 7 feet tall even though he was more than comfortable looking like a butch lesbian his whole lifei want to like transmascs. i want to fuck transmascs. i'd love to live a st4t life but they always just hate me for who i am. i'm convinced girltism (amab) and boytism (afab) just don't get along and all troons are some form of autistic
>>41541141>i'm convinced girltism (amab) and boytism (afab) just don't get along and all troons are some form of autisticActually very interesting. The one ftm friend I get along with best has boytism, but he's understanding. I have girltism, but I'm understanding. We both rub each other the wrong way at times, but have enough patience to explain to each other why that happened and how to avoid it. Unfortunately, how we are raised forever taints us.
>>41541185i'm just convinced being the no filter/wikipedia editor male socialized nerd phenotype of autism does not compute with afab autistics yet i've also met other transfems who act similarly. its kinda just the inevitable disconnection between "talk a lot and be very emotional" autism vs. "quiet, reserved and hates loud noises" autism. just so happens the first is more common with amabs and latter with afabs
>>41537270They're chill and cool and unfairly bullied by trans women onlinet. trans woman
>>41541211> "quiet, reserved and hates loud noises" autism.I have this type of autism and also have ADD (AKA ADHD-I, inattentive ADHD), and I'm MTF. So affirming.>its unfortunate more ftms dont make an effort to actually escape social conditioningI'd say it's worse that even fewer MTFs don't make an effort because very male socialized mtfs are worse than very female socialized ftms for reasons listed out by >>41538695
I enjoy ftms I have a great flirty bromance with all of them.
>>41537840Of course it's laughable when you don't see them as men in the first place. Typical transphobia because the goal post is just going to keep moving
>>41537270Ftms are some really cool peeps. Ftfemboys/ftthems are stupid faketrans abominations
>>41541041>>41541060women give extraneous details and go on pointless tangents way more than men, it makes listening to them tedious
>>41545333More useless complaining from the board's local woman hater
I think ftms are fucking awesome. A ftm gave me the courage to transition and I'm so much happier now. I wish eternal happiness onto every ftm person.
I had been pursuing cis women ever since I trooned out, just like I had when I was still a guy.But a month ago I burned out on the apps and took a break. I sat down and really thought about what I wanted from a partner.To my surprise, once I actually pictured myself in an LTR with a cis woman, I didn't see it working. Then I pictured being with a trans man, and I felt calm, peaceful, protected even. I was shocked, but yeah. I want that st4t love. Being trans is really, really fucking hard and I want someone who knows what it's like, but is still very different from me too. I was worried I was just thinking of trans guys as women, but no. I reflected on my feelings a lot, and I do want them in a way that is nothing like how I've wanted any woman. I want a man who will be the man of the house. Thinking about my king one day coming up from behind and hugging me while I cook us dinner... one day hopefully.To answer your question then; I hope there's a ftm out there who I will be thinkin about a lot in the years to come.
i need an ftm to suck on so bad
