I recognize that ass editionQOTT: Can you clock other manmoders in public?old >>41533906
let's go blue jays
>>41546081>QOTTif i can clock them they're not manmoders manmoding is deep stealth (as your birth-assigned sex)
>>41546100nevermind :(
>>41546500SUCK IT KNOW UR PLACE LEAF
>>41546644i'm american.. :(
God hates Canada
manmoding so hard you convince yourself to enjoy baseball
>>41546658baseball is transgender
>>41546665baseball should've repped
>>41546668what sport is trutrans?
>>41546668it is!
>>41546658it's fun to see a game in personnot very exciting on TVnow football, THAT'S good at-home entertainment
>>41546651oh ew...
>>41546671waht's a sport>>41546685yeah ive been to a few games, at least there's food. and usually if someone dragged you along they'll pay for it
i try to cum but see i'm not that fasti get hard first but surely finish lastlast
what is going on with baseball my parents watching it for the first time in their lives and also shouting at the screen
>>41546767world series
i'm trans
I'm going to quit hrt for real this time
>>41546766the lonely gooner likes to free his cock at night
>>41547355just one more year on hrt i swear
I'm third gender
>it takes a year before you see changes hon>it's only been a year hon it takes two for significant changes>it's only been two years hon it took me five years to transition hon>it's only been five years hon transition is lifelong>it's only been ten years hon
>>41547495Did you really expect HRT to change your face structure?
>>41547492אנדרוגינוס?
¿o סָרִיס?
>>41547542I WAS told IT WAS MAGIC
¿Bro cree an φαρμακείᾳ;
I'm still seeing changes in my sixth year but iw still nbaw and I'm still dying alone and I'm still the only real manmoder
>>41547727https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0
>>41547492indigenous white thirdgender known as manmoder
it's not just Whitewaiti forgot i'm Whitewhat is White?
>>41547765internet aborigine4chan 1st nations a form of gender expression exclusive to those who don't go outside
>>41547760call me the wahmbulance
is it gay to sodomize a moid with my modermember?
it's hereget in
>>41547867Get in loser we are dying
The integration of Mossad and CIA intelligence networks was agreed by Bush in 2008
>>41548317least obvious glowpost
drinking myself sick again award
https://www.politico.eu/article/attacks-will-be-spectacular-cia-war-on-terror-bush-bin-laden/>>41548506or you could just get in bed and sleep
>>41548506>>41548520dont listen to the glowie, get in bed and drink more
>Contrairement à ce que l’on peut voir à l’Assemblée générale des Nations Unies, où chaque pays dispose d’une voix, le pouvoir de vote et le poids dans la prise de décision au FMI dépendent du rang économique relatif des pays membres.
Debt as a Tool of Domination
>By halting the manual recount, and thus ensuring that the uncounted legal votes will not be counted under any standard, this Court crafts a remedy out of proportion to the asserted harm. And that remedy harms the very fairness interests the Court is attempting to protect.
sleep is where nightmares happen
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ucFNsktz2JQ
>>41546081hii /mmg/I've rlllly gotta lock in guys. I've been on hrt nearly 2 years, and im still manmoding. Ive malefailed a few times, but i dont rlly pass or anything. Idk if I should detroon or just go all the way... :/What do you guys think?
mocking me
1 day of hrt and malefailed 100 times but i think i dont pass guys is it over?:/
is it normal to feel like total shit when you AA dosage gets changed?
>>41549131probably reverse dysphoria
:|
>>41548823>only 2 years
>>41549188...yeah?
i should die because im a man and no amount of estrogen will ever make me male fail
>>41549234that's nothing
>>41549266i mean if things are still bad atp, whats going to change in future.
>>41549266you pass from hrt in (years you've been on e + 2) years
>cis men tend to have wider hips relative to their shoulders than me (3 years hrt)
>>41549517idk about passing but it does get better up untill about 4-5 years
i am swearing off this godforsaken forum once and for all. i don't want to be here anymore. y'all make me miserable.
I have a cold
>>41549726none of us want to be here
fuck my chuddy manmoder life... :/
I’m permamoderPorn made me want to transition at 25I am ugly and skinnyfatI’m not female at allMy “bf” keeps saying he is just placating my tranny shit he still doesn’t see as anything but a holeI’m literally male socialized, make brained and have 0 female anythingI’m dead meat and no dysphoria, I just meme myself into having itI’m literally monkey see monkey do and I consume tranny porn and loser faggot boardstwo week since last injection. It’s over folks. I’m masculinizing. I ruined my transition like this multiple times.I’m literally ruining my life in more ways than possibleIt’s OVER
am i really that masculine
>>41549817AM I REALLY IS THAG REALLY ME AM I LIKE THIS
>>41549829yes. we all saw you last week and we laughed
>>41549843im sorry
Manmoding at 20 sucks
i should have been a woman and if i wasn’t a woman i should have a youngshit and if i wasn’t a youngshit i should have been a highschool troon and if i wasn’t a highschool troon i should have been an hrt at 18 college twinkhon and if i wasn’t an hrt at 18 college twinkhon i should have been a manmoder which i am so everything is okay
my issje is not manmoding only it’s also that i manmode UGLY too im ugly and fat (150 pounds)
manmoding at 33 sucks even more
>people keep calling me butchI'd rather be called a troon than being "politely" called a man
had a ton of fun at da halloween party :D hung out with friends, including some friends of friends i don’t see often who seemed to enjoy my company, got super high, maybe a little drunk, and slept over at my friend’s house on a blow up mattress :3 now tonight i go to a concert. how are your weekends going, fellow ‘moders?
>>41550029you're a loser
>>41550549we’re all losers, we’re on mmg
im trying my epilator, it seems to be working well desu
>>41550622nice to hear, kiria
epilators hurt and i dont want to go to a laser tech until i have done some on myself and im too lazy to ipl and so i just dont have
>>41550721uhhh who??>>41550726ok, it does hurt a bit but its not that bad. its like, a bunch of pinches, its beareable and ive seen people giving tips of how to make it hurt less, which i havent even tried so like, just the raw epilator through my skin is already beareable enough but there are ways to make it more comfy
also its a good alternative to self harm. you feel a bit of pain and you get a gain which is getting smooth and hairless
>there was once a time when I wasn't a masculine grown man
i should just die about it
>>41549726You are here forever
>>41550961I wish they made coats like that but for 6'2 men with giant shoulders :/
>>41551009i mean they do
>>41551021where? I only see black black black dark blue dark gray etc coats for men
>>41551033>for menhere's your problem
>>41551087but I'm a man
>>41551095can't relate
Still love my goodness loonixmoder >_<
>>41551112you must feel creeped out by talking to me I'm sorry I'll go away
>>41551159lol stop that
>>415507262 ibuprofen work for me just dont take them too often
>>41551033https://alligatorwarehouse.com/products/mens-pink-overcoat-wool-topcoatit’s not as long but also im not going to spend more than a second searching for you
seeing happy couples ruins my day
>pelvis too small>ribcage into armpit area too mascit’s over
ultimately to be "good optics" is to be an empty husk with no desire, no personality or any will to live for yourself
I still hate men
the repressor is the most fembrained troonyotype
I'm glad I'm not attracted to men, that would be against my politics
I'm a chud
I’m a homofascist
no shitmale homosexuality is always reactionary you ain't special
quick message to all the fakemoders/bdd passoids/"boymoders" here: i use all your whineposts as fuel for my non-sexual agp :)thanks for letting me vicariously live a girl's life through you
i ruined my life and i will never pass
how did i ruin my life? i started hrt too late , im skinny fat, and yeah pretty much
the secret to passing is quite simple actually, all you need to do is get ffs, become wheelchair bound (lose your legs up to your knees too, if you can), get srs and get 3rd degree burns over most of your face
fucked up hairline
getting ffs will lower my quality of life due to how masculine my body shape and proportions are. in fact the only logical life choice for me at this moment is to get a mastectomy and live as an hrt cis man forever
>>41551313Kinda same, but only when they aren't self aware of their situation and how unhappy everyone else is
>>41553246am i a fakemoder?
>>41553246why dont you just do that with real women instead of troons
>>41546102yeah ive never been clocked lol. closest things to malefailing are 1) when a really drunk friend started staring at me and said you look like a girl, 2) friend id known for years saw me from behind and said he thought i was a girl at first, 3) with a hood and facemask and glasses on someone thought i was a girl till i looked at him and spoke, and 4) (idk?) random man started leering at me and hitting on me in the dominican republic and i didnt know if he thought i was a boy or girl
ffs would fix me because im intersex and i have a girl body and the most brutal manface ever
>>41551468REAL. so fucking real. however this still is much happier than its equivalent prehrt
>>41553434i wrote that because earlier i went to the park to feed the birds but i saw two girls hugging and heard one of them say "you make me so happy" so i gave up and went back home crying
it’s only me and my trols in here
>>41553535wow this would shatter me
>>41553467thats good to hearyou can grind and eventually be freedon’t forget about me
i have a friend who's a manmoder repper but if i ever insinuated this to him he'd stop being friends with me probably. any suggestions?
put estrogen on his food
women b talking
all of us can make it, it would only hurt for a short little moment before becoming a girl forever
>>41553613strap down and give immediate injections
i should ghost all my bitches and skip town
strapped to a gurney and given lethal injection (estradiol enanthate) for the crime of being male
>>41553666please god
I have no bitches to ghost
>>41553639
>>41553246You're welcome.
>>41553625all of you in this thread are women youre just sad about being ugly and looking like men
>>41553565i will probably manmode anyway because im mentally retarded but if i mi (make it) i will remember you all
>>41553725this is why I'm the only real manmoder, even if I passed I would still feel like and identify and live as a man
>>41553626love this anime the ending always makes me cry
>>41553626>>41553755I never finished it as a kid, started watching it recently but don't really have the heart to keep going... I always really like the ending song being weirdly soft and sentimental with this harsh industrial stuff included too
>>41553735oh naur not the ffs manmode
I wouldn't mind manmoding forever if I got ffs and srs desu
HIPSSMALLSHOULERSBIGBAKCHUGEBELLYBEER POT FATHANDSROUGH AND HAIRYFEETBIG AND HAIRYMANBOOBSFACEUGLY AND FATCONLUSIONefforthon and detroonbait
>>41553784i just watched it a few months ago, it’s excellent, i really recommend you finish it
>>41553916same and im going to bare it all at some gay moid and disgust him fuck my life i cant even get the stubble off my legs im fat i have a fucked up small lower body i might as well DIE
fight club is repper core
>>41554137fight club is normal gay male shit you just werent there in the 80s man you dont understand how fucked up and hot aids sex was
>>41554137I am literally bob
>>41553784it's one of the greats in my view, the only negatives i can think of are it being one of the contributing causes for the angelgirl phenomenon and it making me a little too comfortable with the idea of dying
WE'RE STILL MEN
today, i hate faggots and homosexualsi’m straight
>>41554142I do not care about gay men at all
I SHOULD SHIT MY PANTS AND TWIRL AROUND AND HAVE IT SPRAY EVERYWEAR OUT OF MY WAIST BAND AND MY FLY AND MY ANKLES AND OOZING OUT OF ALL THE POCKETS AND I SPIN AND I SPIN AND FINALLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THE REAL ME
>>41554165as repressors we have no name, but after transition...
we’ve gone crazy
im so ugly
im chopped and unc
chuncced
>thread comes close to 1/10th of the self hate of the average /repgen/ thread>nobody can take it anymore
i'm actually ok with who i am
>>41550549whyyyyy ;((
is fentanyl good for you?
>>41554370ik hou van je <3333jk nigga square up
>>41554416disgusting
>>415543881000 kowtows
>>41554178we’ve been crazy
>>41554431hello not june
>Can't even kill myself because I would upset the people who care about meI have an elaborate plan to get a series of busses to a remote cliffy seaside, paying only in cash, climb down and find a ledge/cave within the cliff where my body won't be found or seen. Then take a lethal dose of heroin and watch the waves crash against the cliff face as I slip away. Perhaps it would be crueler to give them hope though
>>41554518tell them youre traveling the world and get an indian scammer to periodically send them ai postcards and voicemail for a few decades
i didn't go out and talk to people for 4 years and now i go outside and everyone's showing each other AI videos on they phones
train 1 (had to run to catch it)
>>41554727wash your vans :(
>>41554620at least theyre under the watchful gaze of ai police equipment ensuring they wont hurt themselves :,)
i use ai everyday including for things such as therapy and measuring my doses
>>41554620me every time i hear someone say they "asked chat gpt"
am I a dinosaur for not embracing LLMs in daily life...? or am I preserving my already-rotted ability to think critically? once in a rare while when I have a tricky formatting task or something autistic I want to run through it or a meme idea I'll consider it, but it's just really advanced auto-complete
>>41554752no :Ptrain 2 is a pain in my ass because apparently a football game fucked up the whole train station, i kept being herded elsewhere my people because nothing’s the way it is every other day
>>41554806>>41554847it gives me whiplash every time someone casually mentions using AI for daily tasks. like i don't even know how you use these things? is it an app? is it a website? what are the actual names of specific services? how do seemingly normal people even get put on to these things?
>>41554897it's a glorified search engine for retardsyou input a prompt and chatgpt gives you the most likely response to that prompt, even it's wrong or hallucinated
>>41554897chatgpt, claude, gemini, and even grok all come in flavors accessible through a basic webpage and a smartphone app and amplify the human impulse to just google whatever is on your mind into a markov chain echo chamber
>>41554936>>41554847i agree with you both, it’s fancy autocomplete used as a search engine by morons
I'll give you my all, in exchange you have to love me unconditionally
train 3: the packed subway for 1 stop
>>41554137finally someone says it. silence of the lambs too
>>41555210sounds toxic
>>41554388opiates are so good it makes my neet ass feel like i could get a job and talk to normal people
>>41554151i remember when i watched this when i was 10 bob realy disturbed me, the idea of being an old man and how ugly old men are... and he has massive tits. it was like the wrongest body i could ever imagine myself having. and now im well on my way to having it.
>>41555231>silence of the lambs toono one has ever said this
>>41555231silence of the lambs just hates trans women. in fact there's a whole section of 70s-90s horror movies that have "what if a tranny" as a premise
subway 2. had an entirely stilted interaction while waiting for it
>>41555332>>41555346everyone says it’s about trannies but they pretty explicitly say in the film he’s not a transsexual. also in the 2020s the film can be read as him being a repper gooner type
>>41555210i already love you unconditionally and don't want anything in return
>>41555363>make a character with common negative trans stereotypes>erm actually they aren't transwhat you say doesn't mean anything if you're doing the very thing you claim not to be doingplus, people say the same shit about rocky horror, and other one million "totally not saying trans women are violent psychopaths" movies
>>41555425fair point. i don’t disagree with what you’re saying. i used to think it was anti-trans too but recently ive come to see it more as about repping
>>41555425mfw
>>41555438sex
witnessing another homeless breakdown I'm afraid is gonna turn violent with how he keeps hitting his head on things... I'm a bad day away from being that except with gross titsI should try and have more empathy
autistic hyperempathy ruined my life
>>41555485there but for the grace of God go us all
>autistic hyperempathy>look inside>undiagnosed ptsd
>>41555722literally every time
ptsd isn't real just get over it
>>41555757cruel
>>41555796do you love me
I hate you all
>>41555804i don’t know you
>>41555837
>>41555804>would you fuck me? I'd fuck meokay buffalo bill
oh
>>41555876shut up whore
id fuck my clone though
>>41555943real shit
>>41555863i look like the one on the right but act like the one on the left
>>41555943damn same
>>41555982if you look like either you are on the wrong general
>>41555863me to myself
>>41553535yep thatd be it for me. oh god
>>41555943i wouldn’t fuck my clone. not because she’s not kind of cute but she seems depressed. typing this out and realizing why nobody wants me
>>41556181i need to nuke my self awareness but lobotomies aren’t in fashion anymore
>>41556083im a boymoder tho
>>41556181real real i go through this loop of realizations like 9x every day and then say im gonna kill myself but then i get too tired and fall asleep
>Working with the CIA, the New York Police Department maintained a list of “ancestries of interest” and dispatched undercover officers to monitor Muslim businesses and social groups, according to new documents that offer a rare glimpse inside an intelligence program the NYPD insists doesn’t exist.
>>41556265boymodeGOD
>>41556282bruh
i don't have free will
free willy
sometimes I wish I even found the idea of having no free will appealing
i would like to kill myself
permission denied
I'm just not into women
>>41556244Just take a fuckton of benzos all the time
I am the whore and the holy one. I am the wife and the virgin. I am the mother and the daughter. I am the members of my mother. I am the barren one and many are her sons. I am she whose wedding is great, and I have not taken a husband. I am the midwife and she who does not bear. I am the solace of my labor pains. I am the bride and the bridegroom . . . Why, you who hate me, do you love me, and hate those who love me? You who deny me, confess me, and you who confess me, deny me. You who tell the truth about me, lie about me, and you who have lied about me, tell the truth about me.
I'm a man
i am a loser
Asia is in Europe
i m weasel
>Once the Roman Empire had become the Church’s best friend, the enemy in Revelation had to be sought elsewhere.
the battle between the darkness and ignorance of the material world and the enlightenment of the realm of forms is already underway
i hereby endorse doctrines of transformation through personal illumination
as punitive, hysterical religions thrive,hide scriptures somewhere in the hot sand,crused beneath the golden statues of empire,supressed by law,a light in the darkness
only after all the millions of us so-called heretics, past and present, have been burned alive and the planet destroyed will someone unbury and truly understand the words of the prophets
Do you know if this intelligence program was ultimately confirmed or what its outcome was?What kind of modern philosophical or cultural anxieties do you think might contribute to this sense of fatalism or hopelessness?What is it about Gnosticism or the idea of "personal illumination" that might appeal to people feeling disenfranchised or seeking "light in the darkness"?
gonna read the bible again. any recommendations besides john as always
>>41557342i'm particularly fond of the Pauline parts
>millions are annihilated>every major city has been destroyedtonight, (booing)i speak of prophecy. (shouts & jeers)and what i willshall be done. (flames rise around me)the sacrifices are not over;the next sacrificial lamb...will be led...to slaughter!>you awake on the alter>your blood spills down the pyramid>your body dissolves into a whirlwind of sand>you are reborn into the worldwide ancient hologram the government is running
>Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence>a needy protégé>victory of the few over the many>dependent empire>Homeland Security
>>41557381this picture makes me incredibly sad
the ending of timethe entire world's a graveyard]m
i am horrifically lonely and desperate to be loved
same
ܘܤܓܝܐܐ ܢܒܝܐ ܕܓܠܐ ܢܩܘܡܘܢ ܘܢܛܥܘܢ ܠܤܓܝܐܐ ܀ ܘܡܛܠ ܤܓܝܐܘܬ ܥܘܠܐ ܢܦܘܓ ܚܘܒܐ ܕܤܓܝܐܐ ܀ ܡܢ ܕܢܤܝܒܪ ܕܝܢ ܥܕܡܐ ܠܚܪܬܐ ܗܘ ܢܚܐ ܀
back to eating nothing but microwave meals
subway back
>>41557684as the meal is hesting, ψυγήσεται ἡ ἀγάπη
>>41557582and thus, the prophecy has been fulfilledthe end is nearand before the black abyssbile will spew from your esophagusand those misfortunes brought forth by trumpets and bowlswill be yours to hear
Loa yet agayne spurs hee. We rely toe thyn hautye behestings Who th'wart, mightye Godhead; thus agayne toe thy wil we be forward.
train that takes the place of train 2 and subway 1 the way there
>>41558078where are you goin
>>41558091home. i’ve been waiting on the final train for a while already and it’s still another half hour away :(
>>41558265where were you
>>41558273concert :D
>>41558284which band
future teens :3 now i’ve got all 3 of their albums, and i wait another 15 minutes for the final train to leave. i got a setlist but i’m pretty sure i put it down when i bought the LP :(
hey /b/ros i think im a faggot
>>41558744ew
>>41558754suck my bitch tits
>>41558780so you're a faggot AND rude? pick a lane
i think my underbust shrankim very certain it was above 30today i measured below 30 for the first time
>>41559022mine is 32 because im a real man
>>41550515i went to a concert too
>>41559033im 5'6 so it seems much bigger in proportion for me
>>41559084im the same hieght
>>41559091wth i am also 5'6 are we just made in a factory
i'm also 5'6
>>41559122my factory is fulled with stupid idiotswhydthey make me so ugly
>>41559060what concert ?
>>41559204moon panda
i deserve reparations for my moidness
im so ugly my ass js tiny my back is huge my boobs are uglg as shig i need to DETRANSITION
>>41560194drama queen
>>41560240sorry
tried shopping to make some actual real food but i couldnt figure out how to translate or find an alternative to an ingredient im so useless i cant do anything right im gonna go home and gorge myself like the weak pig i am
I hate the way my body looks nowit's so disgustinghope I don't get sick so I don't have to subject doctors to the horror of looking at my body
the dht from prog made it so i cant shave clean anymore it’s ALWAYS prickly
>>41561380i can only get smooth if i go against the grain but that cuts my face to hell and back
>>41561371yeah like genuinely how are you even supposed to excuse it"uh yeah i want to be trans so i take hormones but im not actually transsexual so i just live like a normal man" you'll sound insane to anyone and any doctor would probably admit youyou cant blame it on being gyno either because any blood test will reveal the truthwe are destined to rot in solitude
i don't deserve the mental effects i get from being on e
>>41561528if I wasn't diying nobody would've let me get hrt because I would have to pretend that I feel like a woman, that I know I am a woman, I would have to do RLE or whatever for two years and everybody knows that a giant man like me would never do itI'll just say it's gyno
what options do i even have if i'm a 6'2 manmoder
detransition
>>41561758its crazy how there's a height above which women arent seen as women anymore unless they have 50 inch hips and its 5'10
>>41561758i know a guy like this with waist length hair lol
this has gotta be the longest lasting mmg in like 8 weeks, wow
>>41561349im v good at cooking tell me what are you looking for
epilating seems to be working better for my skin than shaving, it was a good buy ^^
>>41561895good purchase*** sorry im dumb
>>41561786yeah but he's not a tranny now is he
>>41561758find someone who likes tall girls (extremely easy)
my favorite way to pinkpill people it's by making them deeply unconformable with themselves and when theyre absolutely demolished I present hrt as the only solution to their woes
>>41562007they did this to me back in high school
>>41561903“a good buy” is a perfectly acceptable phrase in most contexts, you’re fine
>>41561890i think it was lard
I have so many regrets
>>41561905he told me as a freshman in college he'd considered himself a tranny throughout all of high school and then supposedly gave up on this. i think he's on hrt still
i don't look feminine at all
>>41562472samenot a single thing about me is feminine
i need to buy a new magic wand
i would look soooo good with a mastectomy
>>41562789don't cut off your boobs :(
i would look sooooo good with a bullet in my brain
smoove off
>>41562971thinking about this every minute of the day. can’t tell a therapist though, that’ll get you locked up in a mental health facility
>>41562639Have you considered detransition?
>>415631570 benefit in seeking help in 2025 btwespecially as a tranny
I still look like a tranny with short hair this was not meant to happen I was supposed to look like a cis chad just by cutting my hair
>>41563221so i’ve heard
>>41563413cute
>>41563509I'm not the cute kind of tranny
Her makes me depressedWhyWhyI just wanted to be tranny and be cute and be loved
>>41563937shut up
gonna get my tits cut off and then never interact with trannies ever again
>>41564003we wont miss you
>>41562971giwtwm
>>41564125thank fucking god i hope you all kill yourselves
the disappointment in his eyes when he finds out youre a failtroon manmoder instead of a natty twink with an endocrine disorder
>>41564150you'll do it first
>>41564167suck my cock bitch
>>41564003goodbye jk see you tomorrow miserable cunt
>>41564150even me… ಥ_ಥ
>>41564195nty not into failures who give up
>>41564150i probably will :/
>>41564150youll die alone and bitter for abandoning the only people that could ever love you
>>41564340go to work lol that's not even me
>>41564404bitch
she man on my mode till i gen
does the everclear on your balls thing still work
why dont u tell us
>>41564466nothe only confirmed medical documentation i know of about someone who did that is a guy who did it repeatedly for months before going to the hospital for ball pain, his T was low but still in the male range and they refused to remove is nuts because they were still alive. they didn't neuter him until he tried physically castrating himself and botched the job.
>>41564340that's me!
>>41564603nobody cares
>>41564609:l
i need a ride or die bih
>>41564609you cared enough to reply
>>41564624>>41564619keep it in your dms thanks
>>41564628this is mmg exclusive content you dumb fuck who are you who do you think I am
>>41564635relax manmoder. okay?
>>41564644relax deeze nuts into your mouth
>>41564653try to regulate your emotions better
>>41546081new bread >>41564698
>>41563209all the time
>>41564661try to regulate your sucking better