why do you even do it?
Not ftm but usually it's a response to unwanted sexual attention from a male at a vulnerable age
>>41548879Because I have gender dysphoria and empirical evidence supports transition as the only effective treatment.Next?
>>41548879I wonder if she ever thinks she ruined her life. She looks so sad and dead inside nowadays
>>41548891For me it was being abused by multiple women which turned me into a violent lifelong misogynist to the point where I would rather die than be seen as one of them. Even if I will always carry the seed of foiddom within me, I can at least scrub myself clean as much as is physically possible. The worst thing a man has ever done to me is be mildly irritating.
>>41548891FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER
>>41548922You realize you cannot "scrub" your chromosomes and that any attempt to chyange gender on your part is out of sheer psychological damage? You are simply proving that FTM is not biological at all.
>>41548949I don't particularly care. I have my motives and I'm satisfied with them.
>>41548967Hey, everyone is entitled to self-destruct in the way they see fit, but your kind are infiltrating spaces where they are not welcome predicated on the false science that trans is biological in nature when you are proving conclusively the opposite.
>>41548983You can't just take the terf talking points and switch the words around retard, gender politics doesn't work that wayt. >>41548891
>>41548996>nonsensical ramblingFemale minds cannot compete with male minds in debate. This is a lesson that you are learning now if you haven't learned it before.
>>41548879Not ftm but T makes me feel all tingly and boyish
>>41549028I'm amab though, and you just used a cat as an avatar (fembrained) sowwy you lost uwu!
>YOU LOST BECAUSE OF RULES IN MY HEAD!What a female thing to say.
>>41548891This.>When I take T I feel and look like a man>How do you feel when you take T?>Constantly angry and horny>How do you look when you take T?>Greasy and unkeptThat's literally the description of the weird uncle that should stay the fuck away from the kids.Some of them are shota fags too.Literally the child rape victim skin walking their rapist.
>>41549078Thank you for your free gender affirming care
>>41548879Because I hate women and it makes it them mad
>>41548879I sympathize with ftms because they all just look and sound so pathetic, honestly when you think about it ftfemboys are actually the best option for them because they'll never be masculine but they can hit a middle ground of being "boyish" girls. Even mtfs pass better, maybe because its far far far easier to be feminine than masculine but idk when I see ftms it really just makes me think they'll never be men sadly
>>41549119The average ftm still looks like a woman just with a raspy voice, would that description not be closer to mtfs?
>>41548891this post is literally just cismoids telling each other their opinions about trans men. what's the point of the thread if you aren't going to listen to anything doods have to say?
>>41549254>would that description not be closer to mtfs?>mtfs are greasy and unkept because of ENever been to a nintendo convention, have you?
>>41548891I had very little sexual attentionA boy asked me out when we were 12 and then nothing ever again
>>41548879Because cis men suck so bad at the game, heifers make it look easy
>>41549413>performative love for anime and video gamesSo wtf are they watching and playing... JJK? Friendslop? Palworld? Madoka Magica?
Not all FTM are the same.
>>41548879>>41548891Sexual mimicry occurs when one sex imitates the opposite sex in behavior, appearance, or chemical signaling. It can serve as a mating strategy, a defense mechanism, or a means of survival, and it varies widely across species depending on ecological and social pressures.In many species, female sexual mimicry of males evolves mainly as a defensive strategy. Females that resemble or act like males often avoid persistent sexual harassment; the unwanted and costly attention or mating attempts from males. In some cases, this mimicry also lowers the risk of infanticide, since males may not recognize the female or her offspring as targets. The result is reduced reproductive stress and improved survival.By contrast, male sexual mimicry of females is usually a reproductive or social tactic. Males with female-like traits can approach potential mates without triggering aggression from dominant males, gaining covert mating opportunities. In other contexts, this mimicry helps them avoid male aggression, letting them remain in social groups or near females without confrontation.The difference lies in the pressures each sex faces: females often deal with sexual coercion and harassment, while males face intrasexual aggression-violence or dominance contests among males.Ultimately, sexual mimicry reflects each sex’s adaptation to its own social and reproductive environment: females mimic males to avoid harassment, while males mimic females to access mates or evade rivals.
>>41549786We also see adults eat their children in nature. You come off as desperate. Are you trying to convince me or are you trying to convince yourself?
>>41549193It makes them laugh? As it does men. And children. And small pets.
>>41549274They think they can make you feel uncomfortable. Yet they post the same question daily...
>>41549850I'm not even ftm I'm just a cis guy who thinks this shit is retarded. Don't ask a question if you aren't willing to listen to the answer.
>>41549850Or, as men we don't understand why women would get pissed at this topic?
I know the mf making these threads would make a killer poonsona.
>i have no argument so i'll try to distract from the fact i am a woman pretending to be a man while dressing and behaving like a 14 year old from 2015
>>41549867OP is a woman?!
>>41549891I think you should pretend to kill yourself
>>41549828People also do that.
>>41548949wow anon, so insightful, this person never understood they couldn't change their chromosomes until you said it, right now they are looking on the internet how to grow back and style their hair. Have you always been a fucking retard or do you try specially for us?
>>41549078God, his haircut is fucking awful
>>41549920I knew someone would walk into it.JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN, SHOULD THEY?
>>41549028You really are a moron arent you, it 100% isnt the same, nobody is threatened by women dressing as men and joining male spaces, they dont suddenly have an edge in sports, they arent physically any more scary than the men already in the spaces unless its your house where they seem to only house cucks.Men have to work to be allowed around women, women choose to have men in their spaces, m2f break that social pact and become a threat that cant be called out on and sent away.You need to get that male debate ability checked out, you seen to have been issued a retarded one.
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>>41548879I wonder why you care? These people were never going to sleep with you anyway
>>41549119>>How do you feel when you take T? Focused, energized, confident and balanced.Before T I was aggressive af, lazy, constantly angry, but not any less horny.What you described is called depression.
>"BEING A MAN IS JUST ABOUT HAVING FAT ARMS AND TITS LOPPED OFF"The female brain is a fascinating instrument.
>>41549983yeah ... thats a man
>>41550014Yall bitches be on steroids and still fat as fuck but at least you're hairy now lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
>>41550035Now you're getting it
>>41550046>fat as fuckthis nigger's fucking retarded
>>41548891You would say anything a female does is a result of this
>>41550052wtf are you talking about, thats a biological man, the threatening one im talking about, f2m arent the same, they are no threat to anyone,can you read? go back and read what I wrote, only this time takethe time to understand it properly
>>41550088But in my case, no I never had sexual attention from anyoneI think lots of male queers probably have a fetish for being the victim in this situation and project it onto others
>>41550087Yeah mrs glued on nipples I replied to is, in fact, fat as fuck lmaoooo
>>41550102brother you're trying so hard, don't get a cramp
>>41550102how dare you
>>41550095>male queersThere are straight men, gay men, bi men and very confused men. Which category do you fall under?
>>41550161Chilling with my gf on a sunday laughing at ugly as fuck ftms tf would I cramp from lmao just glad im not you #blessed>>41550183Not a tranny if thats what you're implying #betterlucknexttime
>>41550207As long as it's real in your mind, I'm happy 4u
>>41550212Thats a cute way of coping very female
>>41550212>as long as its real in your mindSupporting that mentality can't possibly go wrong.
>>41548891I got hotter after taking hrt so I got more attention
>>41550196ftm, so woman
>>41550207Are you a nigger? Answer honestlyA poojet could be as well, but too laughably agressive for poojet
>>41550247Nta you're trying too hard
>>41550276I am being serious. This type of retarded coping is seen exclusively in niggers, and people larping as niggers
>>41550247Europe, one side of my ancestory is germanic the other is slavic. Also its kinda funny how you're talking about niggers and poojeets as if you're not the same tier of human as them being an ftm #nohate
>>41550310If thats how you cope with being ugly as sin then I support you #ally
>>41550320How many poppers
>>41550333>How many poppersThe drug? Im not even sure cause im not a junkie but Im assuming thats what you mean. My body is a temple and I treat it as such, I am drinking some green tea though
>>41550401>my body is a temple>let me show you what i can stuff in my asshole
>>41550412Could have been a gotcha if I had ever used my asshole as a sexual organ I suppose?
>>41550291How old are you
It’s bullshit that chicks can just get T but it’s basically illegal for men to get it because the government is worried they will rise up or something
>>41550446I don't know why this still needs explaining like decades later.When ftm go on T, they're bringing their T levels to the LOWER AVERAGE on male T levels. Nobody's getting hopped up and jacked on basedboy levels of T. The reason they don't prescribe it to cis men is because it destroys your ability to make it yourself, an issue ftm don't have to worry about. It's just a risks outweigh the benefits.
>>41550446>government is worried they will rise up or somethingThey'll rise up... Just not in the way you're thinking....
>>41550446You can go to the doctor complain about limp dick and feeling tired. Boom trt script. It's that easy you monkey
>>41550485So you like to go around and explain trans voodoo all day? And you're NOT a groomer, right?
>>41550446Way more men are on legit testosterone prescriptions than tranniesIf you want it there’s a doctor that will give it to you
>>41549834Absolutely seething
>>41550503You're trapped in this thread and pointing fingers at others? Very female thing to do.
>>41549495League of Legends>>41550019>Before T I was aggressive af, lazy, constantly angry, but not any less horny.Hi gloves.>What you described is called depression.Wrong.Women can't be depressed.
>>41550498Is it grooming when your doctor explains a medical treatment?
>>41550507How am I trapped
>>41550511Nah, gloves is still aggressive and retarded
>>41550485So basically I should just take the full 200mg vial a week to stop being effeminate right
>>41550511>Women can't be depressed.Putting the decades of research aside could you please elaborate on this take
>>41548879Pooners will never be real men. You will never experience the true male experience since regardless of whether you mutilate your body and plaster skin from your leg over your vagina, you will still be perceived as a foid. You know this, I know this, everyone around you knows this it’s just an unspoken truth that your pussy privilege stops you from ever facing the true reality of most men in your position. You’re all hideous, pathetic “man”let losers who should be dunked into trash cans by 6’2 chads for Stacy’s amusement. You’re nothing. You’re less than dirt. The most worthless subhumans to ever befall the face of this earth, only propped up by your utterly delusional entitled foid worldview since the entire world is handed to you on a golden platter, and yet you still have the audacity to endlessly bitch and moan and complain just like a fucking woman anyways. You will never be a real man. You will never be a real manlet, even. You will always, ALWAYS, be a woman.
>>41550507This anon >>41549834 can point at others and doesn't get called fembrained
>>41550575Not reading all that
>>41550544Lel.>>41550485>LOWER AVERAGE on male T levelsPoondose is a real issue. I want dem spines cracking, if you know what I mean.
Is this a man? I'm not so sure you guys
>>41550611Intersex
>>41550625
>>41550611>Im a dood like you!
>>41550575350lbs
>>41550650Only a female mind would think this is a flex. Tell me you get that?
>>41550611How many layers of mental illness does someone have to have in order to get themselves to this point?Genuinely impresses me how they find the confidence to post themselves online when any sane person would be ashamed to even let people know they exist looking like that.
>>41550575Dayum son it's not that deep calm down
>>41550669tranny echo chambers are a real thing and they are so damaging
>>41550661I am saying anon sounds 350lbs. Maybe that is too low. To see the world this way, you have to be immobile.
>>41550676>lets not think about thingsA womanly response if ever there was one.
>>41550669It looks like they may have cushing’s disease
>>41548879bcuz they get tired of having to shove wands up they coochies and decide having dicks would be better
>>41550684>>41550650>no logical response>resorts to insulting appearance out of desperationWoman. Most pooners are comically obese and play this off as being muscular, ironically. They are literally butch dykes. So this is nothing more than a pitiful jab because you can’t refute objective truth. Pooners are women.
>>41550688Quite the opposite, actually. Women think about things too much and end up making blind accusations from it. Sound familiar, foid?
>>41550737There is no logical response to mental illness
>>41550749Yeah, you’re right. Telling a pooner they’ll never be a man is like telling a woman they actually are inferior to men. It’s like screaming at a brick wall. This is why we beat you btw.
>>41550746>women think about things too muchHow many successful governments have been developed by them again? OK then, next topic?
>>41550759>we beat youYou say as you are trapped in this thread lolWhat a fucking woman I bet you make a PSYCHO AS FUCK ex gf
>>41550688I'm okay with that but you don't have to stress about doods
>>41550572>decades of researchAh yes, I love those "if you don't answer like a whiny bitch it means you are not depressed" questionnaires that determine if you are depressed.And what about the "in order to cure depression you need a random guy to listen to you talk about your life for a meager 200$ a month" course of action that women always seem to appreciate more than men.I guess "which gender is more isolated and suicidal" isn't really a good metric.
>>41550759I have not been beat by a man. Would you like to come over and let me spank your big piggy booty while you eat tendies?
>>41550824girl you got beat by a man so hard you wanted to become him
>>41550759Can't fucking wait for women to bully the average transbian STEM blahaj /tttt/ inhabitant out of this gods forsaken place.
>>41550843I beat my own mother as a child and got away with it because I was a girl: /
Because I was born XXY intersex and decided I felt more like a guy.
>>41550850unfathomably based
>>41548879>question for ftm's>first answer isn't even ftmYou can't make this shit up
>>41551185every question on reddit is like this. highest rated comment: "this doesn't apply to me but it reminds me of this unrelated thing that is all about me"every motherfucking time
>>41550904well this is about vicious trannies and not heckin' valid intersex people
cuz girls have cooties and i don’t want to have cooties
>>41548914Isn't that literally part of being a man?
>>41550782Seems more like a societal consequence from how people devalue men for seeking help or expressing their struggles + women being more easily persuaded by emotions and communication to find ways to tackle depression rather than it being limited to the gender that has a harder time managing it.Although that also depends on how someone defines depression at a fundamental level and at what extent it's considered "valid".
>>41548879All FTM's are handsome and deserve head from me
>>41551537don't argue with this raped retard, he's just desperate for attention his parents don't give him
>>41551695sad cope from a mannabe loving incel
>>41551707bleh, I don't care retard Trans Men are hot
>>41551698It’s just some Alice who is clearly jealous of women and has issues with that
>>41551537>Seems more like a societal consequenceMajor depression is not caused by society. Whatever you are describing is not a mental illness, it's a social identity.>to find waysTwo of depression's symptoms are the feelings of hopelessness and helplessness. If you have depression you are not going to seek help.>that has a harder time managing it.Self-isolation is another symptom of depression. It's not really about how well you can manage it, it's more about the fact that depression is unmanageable by definition.>Although that also depends on how someone defines depression at a fundamental level and at what extent it's considered "valid".>Let's play the semantics game with psychiatric diagnostic criteriaKek.Have you ever been depressed, anon?
>>41551779>>41551698
>>41549243Its so jarring when an ftm tries being a man vs a mtf tranny trying to be a women. Idk why
>>41550855based based based based basedt. theyfab that gave their teacher a concussion as a 10 year old girl
Wait till u learn he/him lesbians on t exist that will surely rape your brain
>>41552457k sweatie
>>41552628Im wet
>>41552636did you have a bowel movement?
>>41552642No like i wet myself w arousal
>>41552650so you shit your pants? thats fucking nasty but thats the only way a transwoman gets wet so here we are.
Objectively, I don't think FTM's fill any role in society. Like, at all?
>>41553181Ok buddy
>>41553192Any FTM:Chess masters? Nope.Architects? Nope.War heroes? Nope.Mens wrestling/boxing champs? Nope.Heavy equip operators? Nope.Road construction workers? Nope.If you have a job at all, it's minimum wage to serve me a drink.
>>41553205True, honestly I think they just goon to each others gross art on tumblr all day. Sad!
>>41553205minimum wage made me hate all of humanity forever
>>41553274Its literal serfdom
>>41553310>>41553274>the idea of demonstrating my worth by doing a good job infuriates me, I should be handed bags of goldSpoken like a woman.
>>41551863>Major depression is not caused by society.It isn't. The lack of support for depressed men is, though.>Let's play the semantics game with psychiatric diagnostic criteriaI don't mean to get into any unnecessary semantics outside of what's already considered to be the most known symptoms of depression.>not going to seek help>unmanageable by definitionIf that's the criteria we're going by, I can't disagree with you much there.>Have you ever been depressed, anon?Been in remission for a good while, but I spent the majority of my highschool years rotting in front of a computer screen at home and weighed at most 310 pounds. Showered at every other month and felt like I barely had anything to live for.I eventually got my own shit together, though I've always been a big pharma cocktail since so that probably skews my point of view on it. If that means I also wasn't depressed in the first place, I can live with that.>>41551878Cries from the echo chamber.
>>41548879>why?Because being a cuntboy is great once you received all of your upgrades. If have even mild rizz things are an easy pull. If you look good women will do extra favors or give extra assistance "for you". Based older women will call you cute. And if you're self employed or have a STEM degree you're all set.
>>41553436Menstruation-stained fingers typed this post
>>41553332>>the idea of demonstrating my worth by doing a good job infuriates me, I should be handed bags of gold ??????????I've been spit on because I told a customer she can't open multiple bags of takis to taste test them before she purchases them
>>41553332Wow, exactly you totally get the concept of wealth inequality!
>>41549040Are you from the poonybin?
>>41553589Do u have the invite
>>41553594i do, just curious if it was a Ayden was a tripfag
>>41550688>>41550737>WOMAN WOMANis this your only insult, anon?
>>41553589The one and only clamdestine enby
>>41553609well, ayden is ayden but no he isn't in poonybin nor in any ftm 4chan servers
>>41550688>>41553332Omggg please dont call me a woman!! I tottally dont knooo that i have a pussy!! How could u tell me smth so horrid that i dont alrrr know!! Omggg ):
>>41553635haha>>41553640must be another Ayden then
>>41550575oh yes mistress degrade me>losers who should [get humiliated in front of beautiful women]people will have you believe that this is a "con"
>>41550575How did u know i had a cuck fetish?
>>41553458I have never menstruated, I dont know what's going on with that. But it seems cool I guess...
>>41549757>I was a highly plappable tittymonster!>and now I AM AN AMBULATORY BUNION
because i have gd and not dogshit genes
>>41548879I feel as though its a response to girlies getting sexualised too early, and thus thinking it would be easier as a man and so they live a life with dysphoria or get past the phase once they enter their slut era (I liked mine :3).
>>41553334How did i clock that you were extremely obese and disgusting bruh. Were you ever on olanzapineYou’re just a young adult and retarded. Any healthy male would clock that. You need male role models in your real life and to stop being addicted to the internet. Grow up and stop having a belief system that revolves around stuff you read other pathetic losers write on the internet to feel self righteous about being unhappy. You’re basically just a caricature at this point with no real identity beyond regurgitating some cia psyop to divide the left
>>41553334>It isn'tSo we must conclude that if you don't look for help because of societal pressure (rather then your symptomatology) you don't have depression.It reminds me of the Ring of Gyges.>If that's the criteria we're going by, I can't disagree with you much there.I was using the DSM 5 criteria. Which criteria were you using?>If that means I also wasn't depressed in the first place, I can live with that.Yes, that's not clinical depression.I mean, even getting periods will give you a (subclinical) depressive episode.Everyone is sad during puberty, hormone imbalances are bad enough, but they don't even compare to what major depression is.Major depression is when do everything right and you still get depressed. You as a tranny will never do "everything right", because of hrt, but hey, at least you pass because of how fembrained your understanding of depression is. You even had an eating disorder.It's almost disrespectful to us depressed men how much reliance on society you have. >Cries from the echo chamber
>>41554133>rather then your symptomatologyWhich is what I'm implying those depressed men also have. It's not that societal pressure has to be the root cause of not looking for that help, it just makes it harder.>I was using the DSM 5 criteria. Which criteria were you using?Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but I don't recall anything there saying that.>at least you pass because of how fembrained your understanding of depression isI don't see the correlation there or how exactly my view on depression is "fembrain" but I won't deny that I've had a lot of fembrained problems in the past.>It's almost disrespectful to us depressed men how much reliance on society you have.In what way? I don't really consider myself to be reliant on anyone but myself and the people in my personal life.>picrelI'm not the one throwing aggressive insults instead of trying to genuinely understand and hear your viewpoint here.>>41554066What are you on about? It's not that serious.
>>41550669Literally just be born AFaB and raised into a girlYou will come out dementedly protected and arrogant
>>41554581>it just makes it harder>harderAgain, it's not depression if they look for help.>I don't recall anything there saying that.From the DSM 5:Letter A point 1 >Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad, empty, hopeless)Letter B>The symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.>how exactly my view on depression is "fembrain"Also from the DSM 5>Women tend to experience more disturbances in appetite and sleep, including atypical features such as hyperphagia and hypersomnia, and are more likely to experience interpersonal sensitivity and gastrointestinal symptoms. Men with depression, however, may be more likely than depressed women to report greater frequencies and intensities of maladaptive self-coping and problem-solving strategies, including alcohol or other drug misuse, risk taking, and poor impulse control.Depression for women is an excuse to whine (interpersonal sensitivity) and eat more (hyperphagia).But how on God's green Earth is that supposed to cause "clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning"?That's obviously not real depression. That's just laziness.>and the people in my personal life.That's amazing. I would never wish depression even on my worst enemy.Keep them close to yourself.Just know that "real" depression causes issues with the people around you too. It's an ugly condition, anon.You didn't have anything severe enough to understand just how bad it gets, and you probably never will, and that's great.>I'm not the one throwing aggressive insults instead of trying to genuinely understand and hear your viewpoint here.My bad, I thought you were saying I was a chud who didn't engage in discussing.I'm too used to ftms ganging up on me, so your "support" was pretty unexpected. Thanks btw.Gn.
>>41548879So jerking off feels better and muscle gain easier
>>41555021>Thanks btw.No problem. You've made some pretty good consistent points here without being insufferable to read through, which is relatively rare here, so that's appreciated.
>>41555998You too should fuck because you’re both equally retarded
How it feels realizing you don't need to respond to bait from mentally retarded namefaggers
