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She has a point...
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I'm surprised zoomers like this guy considering he wears a skinny suit like an unc
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>>41552677
they like him because they are retarded
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>>41552677
I don't even know what the fuck that means. what does any of that mean. why would I care what suit he wears

>>41552805
I hate socialists (I'm a left-neoliberal) but he seems like a nice charismatic quick-witted guy who speaks well so it's no shocker people would vote for him
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>>41552948
>but he seems like a nice charismatic quick-witted guy who speaks well so it's no shocker people would vote for him
yup. people are forgetting the options are him or fucking CUOMO., in new york.
They fucking hate that guy, no shit the young guy saying they don't have to pay to commute to work and will have a grocery store in their neighborhood seems appealing
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>>41552948
Men should wear more timeless clothes, not that skinny cringe trendy shit
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>>41552948
>self-identifying as neoliberal
How are people still too stupid to understand M-C-M and C-M-C in 2025. You might as well say "I identify as an idiot who doesn't know how to read."
>>41552677
Zoomers all (not even remotely) secretly want to be '90s kid millennials.
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>>41552994
>Timeless clothes
and it's a suit that's already 2 seasons old, and fucking doc marten platform boots gooooood god. you're a real munchkin arent' you
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>>41552995
marxism is the height of pseudoscience and pseudoeconomics. it's like creationist studies and their theories. it's not a coincidence that like 99% of economists don't agree with or respect almost any of marxian economic theory, just as like 99% of scientists do not respect alternatives to the theory of evolution by natural selection
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>>41552655
i voted for him in the primary because busing is expensive and i want to choke on his cock but sliwa in the mayoral solely so he can get more votes than cuomo
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>>41552805
stfu you cancer patient. zohran is giga based
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>>41553034
you have no argument and can only appeal to ideologically captured institutions as evidence for why you think Marxism wrong. meanwhile, Schmitt and Marx are having a field day as the birthplace of liberal democracy, America, is collapsing into an authoritarian shithole. there's no need fto argue with you, because your kind will either be joining up with the right or killing yourselves in droves soon enough.
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communist muslim dual citizen pajeet that eats with his fucking bare hands

peak leftism
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>>41553273
america is collapsing into an authoritarian shithole in part because marxists keep insisting we absolutely need to keep electing trump and trumpists for either accelerationism purposes or pure retardation purposes

even if they weren't, it would all be completely orthogonal to any merits or lack thereof of socialism. retards often converge on fascism for reasons that are universal and everlasting
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>>41553294
>Nooo vote for the israel puppets
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>>41553273
Both marxism and neoliberalism failed. Both of you need to move on.
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>>41552977
umm aren't you forgetting the only real new yorker? sliwa
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>>41552655
I voted for him
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>>41553545
Sliwa supports masked goons driving around snatching random brown people off the streets, it doesn't matter if he 'seems like a nice guy', he'd be a disaster for this city
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If he wins we should bus all the homeless schizos from every state to new york city
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>>41552677
I get that every generation is annoying when they’re young, but zoomer is zoomerisms are a plague upon this world
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>>41553571
lol what the fuck is this even in reference to?
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>>41553582
which country are you posting from. it's either india or israel, so which one?
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>>41553595
mexico
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>>41553571
even he doesn't support that, from what i know. His support ended on deporting actual criminals
But he is still quite senile and not in the best mental state, so as entertaining as he is, I wouldn't want him to run for mayor
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>>41552994
That looks like a korean idol or model in a niche outfit not suitable for the average gentleman
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>>41553611
>But he is still quite senile and not in the best mental state, so as entertaining as he is, I wouldn't want him to run for mayor
lovable doofus with a big heart is no way worse than guy who believes in actual djinn-tier nonsense including price controls and rehabilitative justice
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>>41553034
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Do a little reading kiddo.
https://www.realecon.org/capitalismpdfs
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>>41553572
Didn't texas already do that to the PNW
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>>41553653
Why is it that when someone is promising to bring about a fascist theocracy and has a plausible path to make that happen, it's "oh don't worry he doesn't mean it and even if he did nothing ever happens" but if someone is promising to give everyone free child care and improve the grocery stores it's the zombie apocalypse
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>>41552655
why do americanniggers spam the whole internet with their mayoral elections an entire year before they happen?

moreover, are americans human?
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>>41553653
>djinn-tier nonsense including price controls and rehabilitative justice
I mean they can work, it's simply the fact of their execution. America loves to half-ass solutions then cry about how they are worthless
>t. euro
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>>41553696
>an entire year before they happen?
I voted a few days ago. The last day to vote is next week.
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>>41553686
where's the fascist theocracy and where's the "improved grocery stores"?

And who wants free child care? Did you ask any parents? A child care run by the government in nyc sounds like a nightmare, if I was a parent there I would never do that.
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>>41553713
>I don't live in NYC but let me tell you what it's like
thank you for your opinion
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>>41553679
not only is the theory untrue but the observation (tendency of the rate of profit to fall) is so empirically untrue at this point it's not even funny. in fact it may even be the case the tendency is for it to rise, in the long term

it's just pseudoscience from top to bottom. but marxists will keep saying the same shit in 100 years from now despite it continuing to be so clearly bullshit. it's a cult
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>>41553705
nobody looks to europe as a model of what to do, nobody asked for your input, nobody wants your input, nobody in america likes europeans, never comment on our politics, please just kill yourself euro freak, if I saw you irl I would shoot you, I would stab you with a knife, I would behead you, NEVER step foot in my continent. Your accent is annoying, shut the fuck up. I hope you are raped, I hope you are raped so hard, and I hope nothing is done when you are raped and that you feel worthless and alone and that nobody will help you, I hope your mother is raped, I hope you are humiliated, poor, tortured, killed, your corpse humiliated, pissed on and that monuments are built dedicated to how raped you were where flowers are put to commemorate the rapists who raped you.

Do you hear me? I WILL RAPE YOU. I WILL BLOODY YOUR FUCKING FACE YOU EUROPEAN FREAK.
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>>41553744
Saved
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>>41553696
This
Death to America
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>>41553744
is this copypasta?
You do realize the idea of your whole country comes from us?
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enjoy your shithole i guess
gonna turn into a somali filled stank like london
>>41553744
>calling anyone a freak while making a post like this
jesus you really deserve to be destroyed by muslims
good luck to you sir.
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>>41553727
>TRPF is empirically untrue
Go on any academic database and look for TRPF papers, I'll wait. This incidentally is how I know you're some midwit who took intro to macro and knows nothing about higher level econ or contemporary research.
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>>41553788
Shut the fuck up european freak. Your arrogance and hubris will be your downfall. You think the world revolves around the shit you took this morning. You think the entire world is lining up to lick your asshole and praise you for doing stupid silly shit like eating croissants for breakfast as if that makes you cultured and refined. You think when the world hears your shitty down syndrome sounding accent they are going to be all ears to whatever garbage your about to spew about "ohhh in europe we do this...." as if they give a fuck about your retarded ass opinion. hahah. Could not be further from the truth. Nobody wants you. Nobody wants to be with you. Nobody wants you except as rape meat. That's all you are. You are a piece of meat to rape and when I am done with you I will butcher you up and turn you into mince meat.

Never, ever, ever, step foot on my continent.
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>>41553799
i will pre-register what i'm doing just to be fair:

i am providing the following prompt to Claude Opus 4.1 with reasoning set to max, ChatGPT-5-Thinking with reasoning set to max, and Grok 4 with reasoning set to max

(despite one might expect, Grok in non-reply mode actually tends to be more left-leaning than even other top models - it's the reply one that has the elon-injected system prompts to make it """anti-woke""")

this will probably offer a better and more rigorous literature review than either you or i could do in a week

i will share the results of each when they complete

>how empirically true is marx's claim of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall? review the academic literature and all other research. how much research is there that supports it, how much is there that counters it, and in your own final assessment do you think it is more true or more false? provide any other analysis of your own as you wish on its empirical veracity
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>>41553295
you're such a fucking retard holy shit no marxist is telling people to vote for trump, and even if they were, nobody would give a fuck what marxists have to say in the US. you are braindead rapemeat levels of retarded. were you dropped as a baby?
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>>41553872
all three models reviewed the literature and say they believe it is empirically more true than false, so I will admit defeat

(however, they all add caveats that this only holds under marx's strict definition of "rate of profit" and that under other reasonable definitions it may not be true)
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>>41553907
they are de facto demanding people help trump win and they will very likely mostly or almost entirely demand people help vance win. if you do not see and understand this there is no helping you
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>>41553872
>I'm asking an LLM to give me an answer
Lmfao the absolute state of neoliberals. Here, I'll predict what the slop machines will spit back at you:
"The Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall remains a heavily contested concept in modern macroeconomics, with some research suggesting it has empirical validity and some suggesting it doesn't. This is in part driven by the persistence of debate over how the rate of profit should be defined, and a conclusive resolution to the debate is unlikely in the near term."
>>41553912
AHAHAHAHA that's actually much funnier, incredible.
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>>41553907
>>41553918
to be clear, I think regardless of what marxists do or don't say, trump would've won. but it is still very rich to see marxists complaining about this while directly contributing to the problem
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>>41553925
modern models are quite good at impartial review. they all made it clear they believe it is more true than false but that the debate over definition is important. do you disagree with their answer
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I think pinochet was a great guy
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>>41553937
I don't disagree with their answer, I disagree with the premise that a stochastic parrot getting lucky means I should trust anything it says.
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>>41552994
I know it's partially the clothes but why do east Asians photoshop their heads smaller lmao
Ive seen it a lot
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>>41553954
it's very, very funny to see leftists continue to parrot the "stochastic parrot" line. they're going to be saying it in a decade, even
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>>41553954
>>41553963
but yes, I will cease saying that TRPF is empirically untrue. I care much more about being correct than being ideologically validated
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>>41553969
>>41553963
the important thing is that even if it is true doesn't mean that we need to have stalin or mao

objectively capitalism has given the best living standards in the world
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>>41553979
I fully agree of course. this wouldn't stop me from being broadly in favor of capitalism and opposed to socialism (where "socialism" = "abolition of capitalism"). I can just be more willing to acknowledge marx correctly predicted certain things
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>>41553963
But you do realize that's all it is, right? It's not 'thinking,' it's predicting. The more you know about whatever you ask it the more you can see where that results in all sorts of problems. It introduces common errors of fact and misconceptions because it was trained on them, it glosses over major points of text it attempts to summarize because it isn't actually thinking about the text it's producing a probabilistic approximation of what an average person might write to summarize it, etc.
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>>41553988
Marx is right about a lot of things (a lot of people from various ideologies/backgrounds are and have a valuable insight to learn from) and it is good to read his works but his evangelists are some of the worst human beings
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>>41553992
although it's kind of the mainstream belief: no, it really is thinking in addition to predicting. human brains likely operate largely via predictive processing too (though very differently from how LLMs operate). their thinking is often flawed and they make dumb mistakes humans wouldn't, but they actually are thinking and reasoning

LLMs are not very intelligent but the current ones actually do possess real, genuine intelligence and some degree of real creativity and extrapolation and generalization outside of their training distribution. and in 5 years I think there will no longer be any debate that the best AI systems are truly intelligent

the lossy compression of the training data and the naive nature of the prediction mechanism makes them not as good as thinking as the best humans but they're not as bad at thinking as you think they are
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>>41552677
Dressing casually isn't likely you to get points after Fetterman. Besides, as a Muslim, he has to try harder to be taken seriously by less open-minded parts of the electorate.
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Retarded leftists voting for a lying muzzie
lol
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I remember a few years back (no one even pretends to believe this kind of bullshit anymore) people tried to argue that 4chan isn't actually a rightoid shithole, people here are just contrarian and they hate the establishment and that's why they support Dotard Drumpf (a coastal elite billionare born with a silver spoon lmao). And yet when someone like Mamdani comes along and both Republitards and the DNC hate him somehow 4chins seethe endlessly about him.
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>>41554219
Its the anti Muslim tourists mostly i dont think most people give a shit about a moderate Muslim. The endless seething is amusingz, he really has the zionists riled up
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>Moderate muslim
Hahaha
Nice one
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>>41554269
it's not that he's muslim its that hes a leftist

if we had the saudi prince or the emir of dubai running I would support them because they would shoot criminals and communists
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>>41553036
waow based
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>>41552655
Who is this?
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>>41553036
you must be a transplant, buses aren't expensive. They are free
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>>41554545
you are why we can't have nice things
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>>41554328
hes pretty cute i think
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>>41553798
God, European racism is so weird and gross. Wish they'd have some self-awareness about it.
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>>41552655
Fuck this trash individual. He's the one who fucked up all the universities
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>>41555028
why?
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>>41552805
They "like" him cause they will support anything that chuds don't like.
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>>41553294
i know that white people have like 50 eating utensils but do they really not use their hands to eat at all? I thought chips with dips was a thing
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>>41553686
>free
>>41552977
>don't have to pay

Guys...
They don't know that nothing in life is actually free...



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