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Why do so many different countries use believing in magical forces as a test of someone's character while sort of implicitly setting up society to be hostile towards open homosexuality?
If they just let people be gay, what would they lose out on?
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>>41559538
whoaa thats a islmophobia + racism
be better
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>>41559538
This question can be taken two ways
>why did they start doing that
you need soldiers to keep a country running and gays can't make more
>why are they still doing that
Governments are jealous and insecure entities. Just as the humans that populate them, they crave control, doesn't really matter if the control has good intentions, reasoning or outcomes, better to have that leverage than not. In politics you should never give something for nothing, so until they have a vested interest in letting gays fuck they simply won't do it. There's no benefit to them and they're giving up influence. Also with any theologically motivated society you also have conservative adherence built into it as a structural pillar. Great to have in war time, not so great in peace time. Leads to schisms and regression.
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>>41560150
>you need soldiers to keep a country running and gays can't make more
that doesn't make sense unless 100% of the male population is gay and homophobia on an institutional level is the only way to keep them repressing
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>>41560155
Most didn't outlaw homosexuality outright until the abrahamic brain drain came through, but it was never seen as desirable since it's a numbers game. They didn't have a billion people, having families producing enough kids was pertinent to their survival. That's why they'd hand wave you being gay provided you had a wife and were making kids.
>but why straight man not just fuck more women???!!
Polyamory is an aberration of the powerful, historically. Humans don't do well psychologically having to share romantic partners, it's only tolerated from the powerful due to the implicit threat of violence. Can't have that many powerful people around and no king can impregnate as many women as a population can, so that avenue is a non-starter.
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>>41560217
>Most didn't outlaw homosexuality outright
because it was religiously illegal and they didn't have to and if you tried to be gay in public you would be ridiculed, beaten, or arrested on "public morality" charges
they don't have to specifically make being gay illegal for it to not have been accepted pre-abrahamic times
the roots of anti-homosexuality go back far further
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>>41560224
It was and it wasn't. It was treated like a dirty secret. That's a lot better than being executed.
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>>41560289
not really, a life of social isolation is being barely alive
i think the real homophobe here is you
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>>41559538
religious thinking is natural to humans biologically, homophobia is natural to heterosexual men biologically.
These things have served a purpose in allowing our species to survive which is why they have been selected for evolutionarily.

It's not that the gay person is a threat, it's that the straight guys attacking each other for being gay keeps them all in line and masculine so they can do the masculine things they need to do.
It's not that you're bad for not believing in magical stuff or whatever, it's that people who do will have more willpower than you and achieve whatever is needed to pass down their genes.
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>>41560683
homophobia is learned and actively preached by females to suppress male power in society for their own opportunistic enrichment



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