https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/new-pentagon-policy-undercuts-transgender-troops-ability-to-fight-military-ban-ap-reports
>>41565556>PBS>Associated Press
>>41565616its a repost from PBS of AP story
>>41565622And you pay attention to anything coming from the AP?
This entire policy (allowing transgender people in us military) is a threat to our military readiness and the burden and cost of covering pentagon funded sex changes. It should have never have been implemented, and it was only implemented at the second half of Obama's last year in the white house.There is no right to join the military. It is not discrimination.
>>41565634tell me oh wise one, where do YOU get your news
>>41565836Groundnews
>>41565634>And you pay attention to anything coming from the AP?Does it matter where the story comes from?
I voted for this. AMA.
>>41566084Do you think it will remain after Trump's term expires?
>>41565556stop tolerating faith
>>41565616AP maybe but I trust PBS and their syndication>>41565844As far as I was aware groundnews just hosts other news outlets and remarks on their slant and consensus, but your the one that uses it. What sources do you use from there?
>>41565556Good. Trans troops shouldn’t exist. Baby killing psychos don’t get special treatment just because of their feewings.
>>41566274>Trans troops shouldn’t exist.Shouldn't you say "troops shouldn't exist". You are still allowing baby killers.
>>41566287I do say that, but we can take whatever victories we can get. Ban women and Black baby killers next. I get that we’re on the “anti-woke” train now, so we can focus on getting all of those categories of people out while the opportunity is here.
Not the heckin trans generals!
>>41565556Trans rights are white rights. By refusing to let trannies fight in the military, Donald Trump is protecting trannies from harm. The brown liberal hordes want trannies to die for Israel. Trannies are more protected here than in countries where they die in the military.
>>41566307>Ban women and Black baby killers next.Come on, you know that's never happening. None of this has anything to do with anti-baby killing. This is just about hating trans people.>>41566313There has never been a transgender general.
>SIR I MISSED RANDEVU BECAUSE I WAS DILATING MY NEO VAGINA SIR
>>41566352>This is just about hating trans people.They must hate women and Blacks a little bit too, right? If not, they probably hate faggots. Are faggots still allowed in? Get rid of them, at least.I don’t care about motivation, I care about outcome. The outcome is a great one.
>>41566352Theres been an admiral which is an equivalent 4 star rank
>>41566204>What sources do you use from there?Whatever looks interesting, but mostly to look for differing views.If you look at both sides of an argument, chop them up, put them in a blender, throw in some bleach, and heat it up with a flamethrower, you might get a few facts here and there.
>>41566383>When you referenced Rachel Levine — she is a four-star admiral in the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (USPHS), which is one of the uniformed services, but not one of the DoD combat services.>Bree Fram’s service is within the DoD (Air Force / Space Force), making her rank relevant for the “military services” you asked about.>So: Yes, Bree Fram is the highest‐ranked openly transgender officer in the DoD’s military services*, and her rank is Colonel.
>>41566381Homosexuals are statutorily codified to serve since the Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010.The rest are never getting banned. It's copium to think this is about anything other than bigotry. This isn't 5 d chess from Trump.
>>41566429It’s bigotry I’m okay with. I literally can’t be drafted now. I like that!
You mean I can't be drafted then? Sweet! Fuck the US military
>>41566406Theres literally No difference Stop asking Chart gpt and read a real source
>>41566446>>41566447if there ever is a draft ever brought back, they will revoke whatever status to allow you to serve on the front link.
>>41566455Rachel is U.S. uniformed services, while Bree is highest confirmed rank attained by an openly transgender officer in the Department of Defense branches
>>41566395>you might get a few facts here and therecould you share some cool interesting facts you know? maybe stuff to do with bleach, blenders, flamethrowers, and chopping stuff up?
bamp
>>41566556It's not a good idea to burn bleach with a flamethrower.
Autism and type 1 diabetes is also banned from serving in the US military. Yet nobody calls that bigotry like they do for banning GD, which was the standard policy prior to June 30, 2016. The entire policy is not anti-trans, transgender is never used in the memo. It's about making our military the most lethal fighting force on earth.
>>41565814Hegseth raping TRADOC is infinitely worse than your retarded jewery
>>41567176Hegseth is retarded and jewish
Drone warfare era however
>>41567955Finally, the reasonable and nuanced takes I've been craving. Most unqualified secdef ever.>>41566455USPHS isn't a military service, they're their own thing that wear navy uniforms. ESL pls go>>41566307>Ban women and Black baby killersHe is trying his best
>>41567176lol, they're gonna have a hell of the time recruiting in the future given the current fitness, autism, gd, and diabetes rates of increasing
This thread is restoring into the same tired "your an evil mean transphobic bigot if you don't support allowing pentagon funded sex change." Did you call Obama transphobic for not allowing them until the second half of his last year in white house?
>>41565814>He doesnt know that theyre losing out on one of the demographics most involved in engineering and electronic warfare
The Trump admin shooting itself in the foot as usual. This anti-trans shit just makes it seem like the promises of the DOD are completely worthless, when they're already at a time of low recruitment. Why sign up when you can serve for years or decades with no problems and still be forced out, even if a separation board wants you to stay? If they can deny you retirement pay that was already approved? Humiliate you for no reason?
>>41568903>This anti-trans shit just makes it seem like the promises of the DOD are completely worthless,Where does the word "transgender" ever show up the DOD memorandum on this? It is not targeting transgender people, this is about gender dysphoria, similar to autism. Is that anti-autism?>when they're already at a time of low recruitment.Lies>Why sign up when you can serve for years or decades with no problems and still be forced out,It was only a nine year policy enacted by Obama in the second half of his last year in office. That isn't "decades".>even if a separation board wants you to stay?They are being treated with the upmost respect and dignity, but policy is policy and it has to be implemented.>If they can deny you retirement pay that was already approved?That only applied to those 15-18 years of service, it did not apply to 18+ years.
>>41565844>>41566395>i read both the daily stormer and the nyt>this makes me intelligent
>>41568966>They are being treated with the upmost respect and dignity, but policy is policy and it has to be implemented.it's inherently undignified, and you are undignified for pretending it's a natural occurrence.
>>41569282>it's inherently undignified, and you are undignified for pretending it's a natural occurrence.Trans troops have been given the upmost respect and dignity from the USDOD leadership. All troops are giving honorable discharges and full involuntary pay. It is vital that we implement these changes for our military to be the most effective and lethal in the world. We simply can't deal with the months of non-deployment lost due to sex changes involved in GD.If I was a private employer, I would definitely ook to hire these discharged trans vets. It is you, who claims anyone is a bigot for returning back to pre-June 30, 2016 standards that is in the wrong here.
>>41569334>the most effective and lethal in the worldThe most effective cannon fodder in the world*Ftfy
>>415697720.50 rubbles from FSB deposited to your account.
>>41569779>rubbleGeg retardYou're simply inspiring more people to dodge the draft
>>41569785US military is the only force left to stand up the autocratic regimes of Russia and China. Maybe you should look up what they do with transgender people in those countries before casting stones on our armed forces. You would literally be thrown out of a building in Russia.
>>41569815>You would literally be thrown out of a building in RussiaHmm where have i heard that type of rhetoric before? 5 billion to israel btw
>>41569823https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gay_purges_in_Chechnyahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_anti-LGBTQ_lawIt's funny how you are such a useful idiot for your own extermination.>5 billion to israel btwOnly country in ME where you won't be thrown out a building btw.
>>41569844>Only country in ME where you won't be thrown out a building btw.Ohh there it is, knew it, knew it. Funny you never talk about how you have a higher chance of getting killed by a bomb there anyway. 5 trillion to israel>r-russia bad and ebil and theyll kill you in the streets because they implemented censorship laws similar to hungary and bonglandOh wait, Russia doesn't require ID verification, so you're saying UK is worse
>>41569860>Ohh there it is, knew it, knew it. Funny you never talk about how you have a higher chance of getting killed by a bomb there anyway. 5 trillion to israelShort answer: Yes — among sovereign states in the Middle East, Israel has the strongest and most comprehensive LGBT protections.>Oh wait, Russia doesn't require ID verification, so you're saying UK is worse>What it does: In 2022 Russia expanded its 2013 “LGBT propaganda” ban from minors to all ages, effectively outlawing positive or neutral depictions of LGBT life in media, books, films, advertising and online. Penalties include large fines and takedowns. >Escalation: In Nov. 2023 the Supreme Court labeled the “international LGBT movement” extremist, enabling raids, arrests and criminal cases under anti-extremism statutes. Coupled with 2023 laws banning legal/medical gender transition, this produced sweeping criminal-adjacent risk, not just content restrictions. >Net effect: System-wide censorship and criminal exposure; Roskomnadzor and prosecutors can block content, fine entities, and bring extremist-law cases. >Hungary’s law is targeted at minors, enforced via fines and administrative controls, and is constrained by EU law. UK does not even have a law>A report by Human Rights Watch (HRW) in August 2021 concluded that Chechnya’s campaign of violence against LGBT people “has no end point” and that new incidents of abduction and abuse occurred in 2021 (for example, a man abducted from Moscow and returned to Chechnya for interrogation). >Amnesty International in January 2019 documented a “new wave” of attacks and detentions beginning in December 2018, including at least two reported deaths. amnesty.org>Several human rights and academic studies indicate that the underlying policy environment remains unchanged: denial by the Chechen government, impunity for perpetrators, and pressure on families of LGBT people.
>>41569893>chatgpt crashoutGegI accept your concession, muttanon
>>41569958>doesn't read what I postedIf you hate America, move to Russia and see how you are treated.
>>41569966I am Polish, anon. I neighbour with Russia. An average mutt is 10x worse than the most retarded ruzzoid
>>41569978>I am Polish,My point still stands. Move to Russia and see how lovely they treat LGBTQ peoples there. Especially when they throw you in jail cell.
>>41569983>Especially when they throw you in jail cell.Better than being raped and stabbed by a spic then dying of a fent overdose because some retard decided to drug youWhy are mutts such retarded cattle?
>>41569990>Better than being raped and stabbed by a spic then dying of a fent overdose because some retard decided to drug youThings that don't happen.... except in Eastern Europe....>Why are mutts such retarded cattle?Why are you here? Poland doesn't allow transgenders in their military either.
>>41565556Okay yeah sure discrimination bad, whatever. But you know, trans drone pilots are still drone pilots. I can't feel too bad. Killing people in the name of US imperialism ain't any better even if it's done by a tranny. So I don't care too much about their "plight."If anything this helps the community's moral standing.
>>41570008>If anything this helps the community's moral standing.Still can join:>PMCs>USDOD civilian force>police>FBI>CIA>ICELet's not pretend there is any moral standing for anyone in America.
>>41570026Okay yeah good point
>>41570040The private military contractors (PMCs) is the little loophole that trans troops can simply work around here. And most us wars are fought with majority contractors now.
>>41570001>except in Eastern Europe....Sure anon, sure. Who has the fent and spic crisis, again?>Poland doesn't allow transgenders in their military either.Yes because our military is retarded as well and encourages draft dodgers, what's your point? That your country is le magical and le 1 in the world while being an overglorified techbro retadation with most people's living standards being these of a second world country at best
>>41565844weeks of torture could not get this confession out of me
>>41569059>I now have 2 uninformed opinions instead of one
>>41566026>Does it matter where the story comes from?Absolutely brain-dead sheep-like response. No hon, it doesn't matter. You keep reading random articles and believing them to be undeniable fact. All sources are equal!
>>41566179>Trump's term expiresImplying that will happen.
>>41570056> Yes because our military is retarded as well and encourages draft dodgers, what's your point?maybe they don’t a military where tax payers have to fund sex change operations and non-deployment time lost from it>That your country is le magical and le 1 in the world while being an overglorified techbro retadation with most people's living standards being these of a second world country at bestyou say this, but most people in the world would rather love in america than anywhere else. us is number one safest nation on earth for being transgender because we are an armed population.
>>41570075> All sources are equal!read the primary sources in articles and make your own judgements. galaxy brain take.
>>41565556Implying I want to defend or preserve that disgusting nation. Fuck the united states
>>41570096us is defending your right to say that even if you feel that way. usa is safest nation on earth yo be a transgender person. that protection is though the us military
>>41570115> usa is safest nation on earth yo be a transgender persondeluded retarded faggot say this while being right next to canada.Many countries have travelling warnings against going to the USA for trans and sometimes LGBT people on their official travel sites. Fucking insane battered wife syndrome ass retarded fuck
if you are transgender, you can serve, in your birth sex. after you leave, you can transition. us military was becoming a feeding troth for transgender people to join and get pentagon funded sex changes. it would be discrimination on basis of transgender status not to. do we had to reinstate the ban. it has nothing to do with being transphobic.
>>41570088>you say this, but most people in the world would rather love in america than anywhere else. us is number one safest nation on earth for being transgender because we are an armed population.Yes anon, brown cows also produce chocolate milk
>>41570145its already a feeding froth for people who want to go to college what are you on about
>>41570088>tax payers have to fund sex change operationsYour taxpayers support getting blown up for kikes stfu
>>41570138> Many countries have travelling warnings against going to the USA for trans and sometimes LGBT people on their official travel sites. fucking lol yes those NGOs that act like USA is Russia or something. everywhere in usa lgbt people are safe. all i see in my area of us (pennsylvania) are lgbt flags everywhere. i have yet to see trump round trans people up into concentration camps. the reason he enacted the ban was GD is same as autism and other conditions, we simply can’t deal with the burden the disruption of it does to our readiness.
>>41570159wouldn't it make sense to make all trannies serve as women, you can't garuntee the level of physical performance as men but they are still usable
>>41570151a post-op trans person still requires copious amounts of drugs, testing, etc. etc. we need people who can be deployable for over a year without that.
>>41570159Holy shit the average american is so retarded
>>41570179So... nobody? Your country has shit form
>>41570169even trans men and non binaries who appear men?this kind of disruption is what we are trying to stop. the pre-june 30, 2016 police worked fine. trans people served fine in their birth sex.
>>41570191If you have a tranny given HRT, you can't garuntee that a female will perform as a male and you can't perform that a male will be up to full performance if on HRT. I don't think trannies should be allowed in all positions but I feel like they are fine for the cushier positions.
>>41570204and I guess if we are going with positions that don't require maximum physical performance, then serving as whatever sex they pass as would probably minimize weirdness
>>41570159GD has nothing to do with autism or anything like that. End it subhuman amerishart fuck
>>41570204nobody said they can’t serve. they can in their biological sex. >>41570292GD is a condition like autism and type 1 diabetes that are all banned from service. its not transphobic.
>>41565556Why should i care?
>>41565814>WAAAAAAAAAH, why don't women get drafted? No one cares about men!!! >bans tranniesCan't make this shit up
>>41571457This is not banning transgenders. The word transgender is never used in the memorandum.
>>41570184>the standards have fallen thought America>therefore we should lower them further!The difference between US and other countries is they have conscription armies and not provisional volunteer armies. Conscription armies fucking suck.
