>"Dont worry! you can become a woman! Just look at my transition timeline">sends picture that looks like any other man and is near identical to their pretrans picJesus christ, ill never be able to become a woman. HRT isnt even worth taking when it barely even does shit.
>>41571788Im not repping, I know I want to be a woman. But I just realize that ill never truly be one. Its delusional of me to think I can ever become one
>>41571794are you taking HRT?
>>41571822No, because theres no point to it. All of the hrt timelines of transwomen just show me that hrt barely makes any difference at all. Im pretty sure HRT is mostly just placebo since they all say it makes them "feel better" even though it never makes them look like actual women
>>41571830>>41571788
>>41571830You're talking out of your ass and have no experience on the mattert. Socially transitioned trans woman (13 years HRT) with a boyfriend and successful in life
>>41571842Ive had trans friends tell me nearly the exact same thing as you, yet their transition timelines still look like men (although i dont tell them that ofc) I doubt your any different. HRT just makes you "feel" like a woman and makes you think you look like one when you really dont. Plus even if i did hrt no boy would ever want to date me anyways
>>41571861nta, hrt doesn't make me feel like a woman but i enjoy having soft skin so i still take itjust boymode luv
>take HRT>it turns me into a woman with a hormonal disorder within 10 months>years pass>doing the thing, living as a woman>randomly pull up photo from 10 years pre-transition (I was 25)>face is nearly identical>skin even looks basically identical>maybe the color's a little different?>maybe the old photo's just underexposed>I think it's that actually>mindfuck ensuesIt's kind of a bone structure lottery desu
>>41571751Yes most troons are delusional and think shaving their legs and having long hair like a metal head means they’re a girl now
>>41572212provide proof.
>>41572265>please hand me blackmail fodder.>i promise evidence will change my mind.If you hang out in the right discords I already have.
>>41572299please hand me blackmail fodder, I dont believe in you. I promise evidence will change my mind
>>41572321What am I? Fuckin' Santa Claus?
>>41572425let me check if you are. post pic.
>>41572265>>41572448Yall would just hugbox her anyways
>>41572488wrong
>>41571861Continue to live in your pit of despair while the rest of us actually make something of our lives then. The worst thing about you kind of people is that there is a ladder right next to you in that well, but rather than climb out of the pit of despair you choose to wallow and whinge about how hard your life is. Pathetic.Captcha: PD8PP
>>41572727Taking a shitty placebo pill that makes you grow mantits isnt a ladder or a way out. you just deluded yourself into thinking everythings okay now but everyone looks at you and still sees a man. you can call it "wallowing in misery" but id rather live in the realm of reality then delude myself
>>41571751People that pass in under a year of HRT probably could have passed pre HRT with a bit of effort
>>41572824I have yet to see any trans woman who even remotely passes without extreme amounts of surgery
>>41571861>Ive had trans friends tell me nearly the exact same thing as you, yet their transition timelines still look like men (although i dont tell them that ofc) Its all hugboxing kafkatrapping, either you concede to their lies perpetuating the running lie on the circle or you become a persona non grata among the cult for calling the emperor's new clothes. Its all a castle of cards built upon mountains of lies and also the reason why if an actual passoid shows up it becomes highly disruptive just by virtue of their success.
>>41572852And this is why I mostly don't go to support groups!
>>41572833> I have yet to see any trans woman who even remotely passeswell yes thats a feature not a bug. not sure why so many people think its impossible to pass
>>41572833the ENTIRE thing of a passoid is you (and everyone else) think they look like a chick. youre not magically smarter than the rest of the population. even trannies cant clock each other sometimes
>>41573005I have outed myself to people in real life and have had all of these things happen:They forget I told them or otherwise fail to internalize it at allThey misunderstand and think I'm nonbineyThey misunderstand and think I'm FTM (and I guess REALLY not trying)They insinuate or even outright tell me that I'm intersex and it doesn't count (a favorite of both rightoids and trans people strangely, except for trans people remove the part where it doesn't count)Functionally I can't even reliably out myself as MTF.
>>41573117Holy humblebrag lmao
>>41573239I guess what I'm saying is if your core belief is passoids can't real then nothing will change your mind because you can always find an out.
>>41571751You literally can't become a womanBut you COULD be a pretty transwoman
>>41573239its not a humblebrag. yall on this board get so annoyed at the idea that this is the goal that you're all meant to aim for >>41573268dont listen to this retard listen to your cisf friends who like you and see u as a cute girl with brainworms
>>41573117top 10 things that never happened>>41573268I cant be a pretty transwoman, i didnt win the genetic lottery
>>41573273Nobody thinks that a passing transwoman is a FTM when they tell them their trans, and certainly nobody forgets their trans just because they pass so well. Its a comically fake post. You should aim to pass, but aiming to magically be such a perfect pretty girl that everyone thinks you must be FTM is ridiculous
>>41573280Well, guess you're gonna be an unpretty trannyIf you had actual dysphoria, it's better than being a man
my take on this is literally yeah, you might not pass and be a hon.. would you be satisfied if someone loved you like that tho? if someone despite that truly saw you as a girl for how you are inside too
>>41573299cope. some of us actually pass lol. also that one isnt even that weird if ur androgynous. even in early transition when i came out (as trans) to people theyd ask me which way
>>41573299I mean most people don't. You're right that's pretty ridiculous. But an optometrist had me charted with an unspecified endocrine disorder and an unspecified psych diagnosis and they asked me about it, and I explained I was trans and maybe that's what they were getting at, and then I had to stop them from mischarting me as FTM right in front of me.Or here's a screenshot from a urologist's office where they actually did mischart me as FTM. I still can't believe that happened. But I can change those fields. I totally could've faked that. I also know how to use the DOM inspector so there's that.A tale as old as time. There are no girls on the Internet.>>41573582I had a personal trainer do that to me. In his defense at the time I had absolutely no confidence and was dressed like a dude and I'd changed none of my legal info.
>>41573299when you see trannies post about getting checked into the ER and given bracelets with sex F on them and asked if theyre pregnant do u just think theyre all lying
>>41573582its still not passing if they cant tell if your a girl or not.>>41573679No, but I think theyre lying if they start going "im such a pretty perect girl that everyone thinks im a transman when i tell them im trans because their brains just cant comprehend me being a cis male due to how beautiful and amazing I am!"
>>41573299Yeah that's what i meant. Having some ppl think you being trans means youre ftm? Sure why not, I've poonerpassed. Saying you pass so well no one could even imagine you're a trans woman like you're way more feminine than even the famous model trannies you're just so feminine and small and petite? Cmon lol
>>41573679Being asked if youre pregnant is so not comparable to saying "im a tranny" to everyone and literally everyone assuming that means you're ftmShit most ppl don't even know ftms exist lmao
>>41573299>>41574128>>41574203>>41574223Who said everyone? I gave a list of four different (non-exhaustive) outcomes.But in case it was confusing, no not everyone thinks I'm FTM.>prettyNot really desu.
>>41574128>cant comprehend me being a cis male jdi do prdele
>>41574276Your outcomes looked supposed to be exhaustive. Also you're a retard for outing yourself?
>>41572727The problem is that this ladder literally doesn't exist
>>41574533Sorry for the confusion :(I kinda had to out myself to the doctor who was literally about to inspect my genitals. It comes up for other reasons too. For example maybe I should but I don't lie to any of my doctors.I've also done some light to moderate activism because the state where I live is generally hostile to trans people, and that just doesn't land unless I explain what I am.
>>41572833I have been ushered to the female bathroom despite not remotely passing. It's context dependent.
>>41574985Yeah to doctors is reasonable. I mean for me it's in my file lol euro stuffBut yeaaaah activism seems like a bad idea ngl
>>41575313I felt like I had no choice. They deployed a hontical opticsnuke to a women's locker room near me and then they used that to justify multiple competing ID and bathroom bills. This last year was rough.But yeah I'm basically human clickbait and it feels inevitable one day the news is gonna notice me and my face will end up on TV. It hasn't happened yet but I'm aware of the risk.
>>41573117k nice story
Out of all trans people that post things online and I assume they do because they think they look good, only a handful I've seen actually pass, and what's the likelihood that that would be me? Like 0%. And also it just seems like a hard life. If I could magically change into a cis woman I would, but being trans is no life for me. At least I can cope by being a conventionally attractive boyish good looks guy.