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In a minimum of 100 words, please describe the difference between MEF (Masochistic Emasculation Fetish) and AGP (Autogynephilia) as you understand it, response is open to all. Submit in the replies below before the thread is archived. (40 points)
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>>41599525
AGP is arousal at feeling, looking and being treated like a woman
MEF is arousal at being humiliated and emasculated for not being a real man
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>>41599525
agp as it was originally coined was intended to describe a subtype of transsexual
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>>41599525
mef gets off to the idea of being effeminate being emasculating. agp gets off to the idea of themselves being effeminate. they are not mutually exclusive.
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>>41599525
AGP is when it's based. MEF is when it's cringe.
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agp is when eurphoria boners for wearing a dress, mef is when you want a man to dom and boyremove you
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oh my fucking goooooooood none of this is real
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>>41599856
its as real people make it to be

>>41599661
whatever i am, its the based one

>>41599825
so context of arousal is a key element?
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>>41599825
CANT A GIRL SIMPLY ENJOY GETTING PLAPPED BY HER BF1!?!?!? FUCKING HELL U PPL HAVE THE MOST BRIANWORMED RETARDED SHIT TO SIMPLY SELHARM URSELVES INTO SUICIDE!
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>>41599870
>its as real people make it to be
You should probably not work in mental healthcare
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>>41599584
damn i guess i am mef as a femrepper after all. fuck my stupid faketrans life
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>>41599933
>mental healthcare
literally none of that is real either
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>>41599825
pic is so hot
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>>41599825
>mef is agp but in a way where you want to signal to everyone you are that
giwtwm
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>>41599825
God I need to give a visceral savage animalistic ass pounding to a cute mef tranny so bad
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>>41600303
I'm lowkey mef and self loathing about it plz have sex with me thanks
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>>41600344
I wouldn't want to be some 24/7 psycho dom about it, I could be loving too but in the context of raw, primal sexual energy it's something I'd love to just unleash on somebody that craves that kind of treatment, vigorously boyremoving them, teasing them for being an emasculated girly faggot while I cum inside and then kiss them and hold them
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for me it's forced fem/feminization

AGP is imagining having a female body
MEF is being feminized over time and getting off to the loss of masculinity
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>>41599525
Good girls goon their little clitties to sissy hypnos. Stop arguing and just goon! Goon it real good fro mommy!
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>>41599525
AGP is a fetish. MEF is a lifestyle.
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>>41601840
okay but what if i'm a tomboy that sometimes gets off to the idea of my partner making me be more femme
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>>41601958
part time mef
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none of these are real! i hate sex! i just like being pretty! my only sexual inclinations is people who make me feel submissive
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>>41599825
wow terrible and cringe photo where to find more
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>>41602207
@lambsamwich on twiiter (they have another one of the character sucking penor)
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>>41599525

TLDR: you are truetrans if you transition and experience MEF as something common (since there are cases of people that say they arent trans but take hrt)


AGP is a very specific fetish, mainly present in femboys /cds
This feeling however in most cases is only present when engaging on erotic activities, and disappears fast once orgasm is reached

MEF is losing your masculinity a.k.a what makes someone a man. This feeling in 99% of cases doesnt only appear on erotic activities and also doesnt disappear inmediately once orgasm is reached. This can exist at all times unlike AGP. May start small but usually it grows extremely big and exists at all times
MEF consists basically in losing masculinity, stop being manly, being used, being a needy womanly bottom. This is in fact, what the average traditional gender role of being a woman is. You could say cis women "experience MEF by default"
This is why cis "men" that experience MEF are so so so so likely to transition and actually be trans women. Because their minds are the same as cis women

However is common that femboys/cds that initially only experience AGP accquire MEF. If that happens, is likely they want to transition

There are many combos:
mef only base-> +++++ most likely transiition from young or devastating repping (usually what people call hsts here)
agp only base -> + may transition in the future or may not, repping without damage cause they are not MEF
agp + get MEF later -> +++ very likely transition, repping does lot of damage

also.agp + MEF can be be:
- lose agp, now have only MEF
- agp lowers down (never goes away, but maybe until almost 0), and MEF grows big proportionally

notes:
MEF may appear materalized as the typical "i wish i was a girl"
AGP may appear due to hypersexuality, acces to porn on early ages, staying inside, etc. This makes it common, reason why many mtfs have experienced it
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>>41602207
MEF enjoyers might like this
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>>41602856
i really hate that this turned me on
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>>41599825
not true. I'm MEF, I want a woman/girltwink to make fun of me so that I then turn the tables and fuck the shit out of her.
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>>41599525
AGP can be graceful if done right
MEF is necessarily foul
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>>41602092
Sounds kinda AGP
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>>41602639
nonsensical lmao
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>>41602856
doesn't have the same pressure as the image alone, chan text doesnt do it for me
>>41600303
sauce
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>>41606074
it's one of the doujin by Wataya



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