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QOTT1: Are you the type of person who can recall their dreams? any interesting ones youd like to share?
QOTT2: are you ever male in your dreams? Are you always "you" or are you sometimes someone else entirely?
QOTT3: Do you believe dreams hold any greater meaning?
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>>41662254
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Are permawomanmoders allowed to post?
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>>41662868
No one will stop you
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>>41662868
mommy
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>>41662254
i very rarely remember any dreams but i've dreamt that i was a man having sex with a woman and i've never considered killing myself more than after waking up from that
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>>41663195
Girl fuck you
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>>41663376
Fuck me yourself you coward~
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Threadly reminder that the following are the best ways to manage your dysphoria (the more you do at once the better!):
1) Butchmax
2) HRT-rep
3) Get a short, mtf femme gf
4) -optional- get bottom and/or top surgery
>>41662254
My femrepper partner is right out of my dreams, if that counts :3
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>>41663402
I don't want to be lesbian top though, I just wish I was a normie gay bottom.
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I wish I wasn’t born.
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>want to be a man
>insect phobia bordering on genuine hysterics
literally irreversibly over nothing could have saved this. foidbrain so terminal trannies weep with envy and kneel at my feet
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>>41664164
I'm mtf and roaches make me faint lole
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>>41664245
There is a roach currently skittering around my bedroom and I have no clue where it is.
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How do i get a cute butch lesbian gf? Im tired of going out w femmes im not attracted to. Problem is im a butchmoder
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>>41664336
Do you actually want a butch or just a tomboy
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>>41664346
Idrc i love butches in general. Def a lesbian butch and vers. Prolly wish i had one cause i am too and i can have some camaraderie too
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>>41664272
I killed it #girlpower #thefutureisfemale
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>>41662254
qott all probably: i will never forget this one dream that i had where i had a penis and nothing else particularly interesting happened i just had one and i finally felt okay
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>>41664920
hi
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Per the Qs OOT: Last night in my dream I finally had the football player height and bone structure that I would've had were I born male. Sounds like foid cope but it made me sad. I hate my life.
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1) Keep having dreams about fucking my toxic homoerotic exfriend and it’s driving me nuts. He wont text me, I would definitely never text him. I enjoy feeling like this though.
2) I never really notice but I’m usually me or someone else.
3) Sometimes yes sometimes no. I do believe that you dream of someone when youre on their mind or your energies are too synced, no matter the distance. Happened with an ex gf a lot, whenever we were no contact i’d have back to back dreams, she’d be the first to reach out and say she’d been dreaming of me without me mentioning it first. Freaky shit.

I hope I dream about driving my dream truck tonight.
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>>41662254
>QOTT1: Are you the type of person who can recall their dreams? any interesting ones youd like to share?
Yes, I can recall my dreams. An interesting one I remember would be probably one I had in my childhood. I dreamed that I was sitting in a coffin, during funeral, people were doing the thing where they drop dirt on the deceased. So they were dropping it on me. I saw my classmates in that "funeral".
>QOTT2: are you ever male in your dreams? Are you always "you" or are you sometimes someone else entirely?
I am mostly male in my dreams. Sometimes I did look like I look IRL, but I mostly wake up from those the moment I notice. A few times in my childhood I was in dreams as characters from stuff i read before bed, like, I remember one dream where I was Harry Potter, for example lol
>QOTT3: Do you believe dreams hold any greater meaning?
I do not think that they do, but I sometimes use them for inspiration in my work either because they have something bizarre in them that sounds fun to draw (like an upside-down seagull stuck in a tree or an igloo made out of feathers) or because they make me think about what my thoughts about people/situations I see in them are.
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>>41662254
I had a dream this August that I started male puberty. Was so pissed when I woke up from it and realized that it's just a dream. It's still sometimes on my mind, how do I handle this?
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>10+ years repping, nothing helps
>LTR with lesbian gf who has known since the start and openly said she will leave if I become a man
>Held back in career and hobbies because of repping

Thinking of speedrunning FTM transition and roping if my mental state doesn't improve by the 2 year mark. It would blow up my relationship and I'm not optimistic about passing, but I don't mind dating fakebians who see me as their transmasc he/him butch as long as my physical reality changes significantly. The problem is that then I will have wasted all this time repping for nothing.
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By transitioning to "male" you get the opportunity to fail at both gender roles in one lifetime
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>>41666915
Honestly, it kinda sounds like you have a shitty partner.
I love my femrepper partner and if they ever decided to poon out, I would still love them because they would still ultimately be the person I care so much about :3
I admit I would probably internally reconcile things in my head by considering them a he/him butch. But I would still support them doing whatever they thought was best for them.
In your case, I would recommend attempting hrt-repping as a he/him hrt butch first, since that may be enough for your dysphoria.
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>>41666915
>I will have wasted all this time repping for nothing.
sunk cost fallacy, and i thought repping WAS for nothing? it's about avoiding pain but you don't really gain anything for doing it, you just get more hollow and it impedes your actual life like you said not helping your career
you might as well lock in
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>>41667596
You retain the slightest bit of your dignity
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i fucking hate being around normie women
my only acquiantances at college are two girls who just talk about their boyfriends and show each other tik toks nonstop and i can tell they subconsciously exclude me, only talk to me when they need help etc., where the fuck do i actially find pleasant and nice girls who aren't obsessed with men to be friends with
wish i could have just been born with a cock so i could actually experience the only worthwhile form of friendship (between men)
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>QOTT1: Are you the type of person who can recall their dreams? any interesting ones youd like to share?
my dreams are always some crazy freudian shit. theyre not exactly nightmares because i am barely phased by them, but they are unsettling. last one involved child me hiding huge bloody pieces of meat in a closet and wandering around my town in frenzied paranoia, i was afraid of someone finding the pieces of meat
>QOTT2: are you ever male in your dreams? Are you always "you" or are you sometimes someone else entirely?
im always a child in my dreams, i think this represents how i feel emotionally stunted as well as stuck in the past. a lot of things went wrong in my life, too many to be exact, i am fixated on never experiencing a normal childhood, so my subconsciousness still perceives itself as a child and refuses to mature
>QOTT3: Do you believe dreams hold any greater meaning?
theres no way that they dont. not in a spiritual way tho. i think that your dreams always reveal something about you. like your suppressed worries or just stuff that your mind dwells on a lot. my dreams always make sense psychologically like i can tell what feelings of mine theyre representing
>>41664245
mtfs are women its whatever
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>>41664336
The first step is to live in a big city if you don't its impossible.
>>41668965
Female friendships are so unfulfilling. Half of the conversations are so vapid, unfunny and boring. The other half are full of emotions that is just draining. People act like its a good thing females are more emotional and open with each other but to me its so performative and intrusive. Even then people say that it's being open and emotional when the majority of the time it's either repeatedly consoling and soothing someone who is upset about the most stupid shit for ages on end or its pointless arguing and catfighting and gossiping. It is exhausting and useless.
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>>41663432
madness. i wish i was a normie straight woman instead of a gay bottom
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>>41666915
you give yourself ten years repping but only two years trooning?
try a little harder anon
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You are going to date a girl, right anon? You have only kissed girls, right anon? You wish to get your gf pregnant, right anon? You haven't given up on your man dream, right anon? You want to feel the fulfilling touch of a woman, right anon? You have given up on kissing men, right anon?
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dysphoria is hitting right now. but I would never, ever pass.
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>>41670041
i have a boyfriend i love him emotionally he is my bestfriend and so precious to me but physically and sexually i am so unfulfilled i want to ask for a threesome just so i can get some puss but even then i know it wouldnt be real like i would have to be all lezzy when i want to fuck a woman like a man does
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does it ever get better? being born as a female makes me feel not human. i can't believe this is my one reality. one shot at life- 50/50 chance of being a man or woman and i was a woman. why. why. why. i dont want to be a transgender man i want to be a MAN and i never will be.
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>>41670576
yes, it does get better once you stop poking where it hurts and distract yourself with something interesting
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>>41669938
yeah spot on anon that's exactly what i think but i didn't feel like dragging on with a whiny rant about how lame and gay female friendships are lol
who the fuck wants to sit around in a circle talking about their exes and feelings, i genuinely just want to do cannonballs off a cliff with a group of guys
i know this sounds really juvenile and crinfe but i've been subjected to the unbearable torture of female intrasociality my whole life and i can't take it anymore. i wish genuine non normie women were more common. and by non normie i don't mean dyes her hair has a septum piercing and listens to kmfdm, i mean an actually intelligent woman i can at the very least have a conversation with and not have to deal with her retarded problems like worrying if her bf is cheating or not
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>>41671682
you have to somehow wind up with an utter freak or outlier as a friend, one that isn't autistic or weird/edgy just for the hell of it. someone that's just neat.

or someone that's an outlier that fell in love with you, and it's a very atypical one-sided relationship.
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>>41664336
butch4butch is a rarity. good luck out there.
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>>41667558
i lol'd
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>>41672078
>fell in love with you
i wish i could reciprocate that feeling in the event it happened (probably unlikely), but my condition as a female would make the possibility of that impossible because i refuse to have any sort of romantic relationship as a female
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>>41672508
>the possibility of that impossible
i meant to say the possibility of that 0 fuck my esl brain
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>>41672508
>>41672521
well, that's the thing. I'm not reciprocating and I'm still being loved anyway.
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>>41672396
The baby face.. the beta male posture...the sad autistic stimming... This is you on transgenderism
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at the end of the day im just a ugly delusional dyke who will never be loved or love tbhq
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>>41672855
how tall are you?
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>>41672943
Im 5’3 but cope w 5’4
Jfl it never began did it. Thats why i try and cope w butchmoding
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>>41672952
>coping with an extra inch only to still end up as 5'4"
I won't nonsense you. it's indeed over for you before it even began, unless you're at all feminine and/or bottom-inclined.

if you're toppish, sincerely want to be a man, only attracted to women... you are "stick a fork in; it's done."
my boyfriend (butch) gets mistaken for a man despite not being on T and is 5'8".
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>>41672855
wait, why can't YOU love?
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>>41673126
Ik ill never be a man but i can cope w being a butch lesbian
>>41673138
I never learned how
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>>41673162
I'm pretty sure all women, even dykes, deep down resent a partner that cannot stand eye to eye with even manlets. you say you're butch moding but nothing separates you from regular women at all except maybe short hair. that's my point; you're not even coping or moding or anything.
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would you exchange bodies with a mtf repressor to get away from your meat prison? How much of a good deal you would be able to get from your current meat prison? I'm ugly as fuck, so probably would have to compromise for something accordingly.
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>>41673181
My femrepper partner is shorter than me (and I'm already kinda short), but I don't care because they have the male brain and masculine personality of a 6'5 guy.
Personality and presentation accounts for so much more than actual height does imo :3
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>>41673181
Most butches are under 5’6 idrc atp im not going to be femme anymore it makes me sick to my stomach tbhq im just gonna live my life going crazy and homeless in Albuquerque, also why tf would u think id ever date a femme. I have nothing in common with them.
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>>41673200
if I swap bodies, do I feel what the repper feels; meaning I badly want to have a female body? or am I me, in his body?
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>>41673232
You retain most of your brain, and you certainly retain wanting the part of you that wants to be of the opposite sex, but you also get new bits which means new brain parts to move and feel those new bits.
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>>41673200
Yeah, I wouldn't care about attractiveness really. I don't think anyone would want to switch with me though not that I'm completely buttfuck ugly my body is just kinda shitty when it comes to functioning.
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>>41673250
>wanting to be a girl whilst a boy
somehow this feels so fucking asinine, considering I'd be just coming from a female body. I wouldn't really be able to enjoy being male if the whole time I'm thinking of wanting to go back. I'd probably still go for it, but it's such a waste.
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>>41673294
No, I meant you kept wanting to be a boy after you get transferred into the boy body.
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>>41673309
oh. then yes! I would love to experience for even five minutes the other body I will never have. sincerely for pure curiosity. though I would prefer to not be female.
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>>41673218
>why tf would u think id ever date a femme. I have nothing in common with them.
This is something I worry about. I find fem people attractive, but…
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>>41673181
are you saying short butches don't exist? lmfao
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>>41674136
Believe it or not ive been on dates w five different femme girls and every time i felt so much dysphoria and felt like they saw me as a freak and couldnt bring myself to even rly touch them or kiss them but with butches especially soft butches im alr over that shit all my crushes have always been butch girls ig going out w femme girls i was tryna prove myself as masc or smth kek
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>>41673200
yes i could get a great deal i'm a reasonably attractive female and all i ask for is a mediocre looking lanky white boy body. i'd take a 5'7 one, idc.
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>>41674165
How hot r u. Proof?
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>>41673267
Would you want to be an overweight 5'11 white guy with asthma, stomach cramps and poor eye vision?
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>>41673200
idk if anyone would swap with me cus i detrooned and now im a twink that still gets she'd but with gradually deflating tits
short too
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>>41674521
I have IBS and asthma and need glasses so the only issue is overweight which can be fixed and I get to be white and tall
So yeah no questions
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>>41671682
You sound equally retarded as the people you're complaining about, anon. Perhaps if you stopped trying to masquerade as a chud and instead attempted to make friends with women that goes beyond listening to coworker-esque conversation and complaining about how you're different and far more intellectual, you'd find the friends you wanted.
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>>41674626
Nta but 90% of woman to woman conversation is just coworker drama and relationship shit
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>>41674208
foh i'm for femmes only
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>>41675419
Ughh whatever
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>>41674750
This is 90% of male conversation too, though, there's hardly much difference. Maybe add going to the gym and/or protein intake. It's a person issue rather than gender.
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everyone on this board is a liar but so is everyone outside of it. what a predicament
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>>41674626
they seem to think that this is the entirety that runs through women's minds. it's like small talk, a temperature check. once trust is established women will discuss deeper things.
I don't think most people understand the basic bitch routine is like zebra camouflage. nothing to see here, I'm just talking about men and clothes, take 10,000 - and action!
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>>41664336
i’m butch and i broke up with my butch girlfriend because she wasn’t dysphoric at all and it weirded me out that she was just like that. i feel like you have to find another femrepper
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>>41677473
I think another option would be a mtf.
I may be biased here. But I think with an mtf, you have someone that understands your dysphoria but will not make it worse like a ftm would.
They want to accentuate your masculinity, because doing so accentuates their own femininity.
Obviously there are bad mtfs and they are not for everyone. But my femrepper partner seems pretty happy to own me :3
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okay i think this is my gameplan
-continue to progress in the gym while bulking
-start cycling anavar (steroid with the most anabolic effects vs androgenic effects so no nasty roidtranny voice)
-when i get big enough break it off with tranny situationship (bpdemon + she’s really tall and i need to not be around male bodies at all)
-slay femme pussy while tiktok masc maxxing
what do you guys think
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>>41677551
Or she just naturally looks more masculine than you because she's tall, and she has broad shoulders and other things she's dysphoric about, and it still doesn't work out
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>>41677736
I'm not going to pretend that mtfs are always the ideal option.
But generally, if you are butchmaxxing (and especially also hrtrepping), you would be hard pressed to find a mtf that would be more masculine than you.
Also, some of us are short :3
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>>41677551
i did date a mtf, she ended up cheating on me with another mtf. i probably would again if i could find one short enough but im 5’4 so idk. that’s why i go for more short femmes/butches
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>>41677811
>she ended up cheating on me
Shitty people exist. Trans or not.
>if i could find one short enough but im 5’4
Short mtfs exist. I'm personally also 5'4.
But I don't think height is everything, personality is critical for me.
My femrepper partner is personally shorter than me, but I think we have a dynamic that works because they have a super masculine personality and I have a very feminine personality :3
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I got kicked out of the mens restroom again.
Years of T and I can't even do that.
Worst thing was, the womens was locked and nobody had a fucking key.
My life is a cruel joke, my body is already breaking down due to a rare genetic disorder fucking up my joints.
And I'm obese level heavy due to another stupid genetic disorder that gives me bones of fucking steel wich fucks my joints even more.
Yet my waist is 26" circumfence.
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>>41677845
how tall are you?
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>>41662254
take your HRT, retards
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>>41677845
>take arnold levels of steroids for years straight with no cycling
>don’t ever lift or work out
>be surprised when your body is fucked up
are roidtrannies this stupid?
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remember what the took from you
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>>41678051
HRT = good
Social transition = bad
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>>41678077
how are you guys explaining the disgusting roid voice to people?
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>>41678054
Hahaha imagine working out with Ehler Dahnlos syndrome hahahhaha
>>41677897
5'1"
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>>41678066
Even if I were male being Chad would be a distant pipedream
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>>41676946
These retards >>41669938 >>41671682 are straight up autistic. They will never understand human-human interaction.

>>41678738
>Hahaha imagine working out with Ehler Dahnlos
EDS is common in reppers. I have it too and work out just fine. In fact, developing muscle helps to support your joints. Unless yours is significantly vascular, you can get fit ez.
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>>41678951
Workout yes, but I try to stay away from weights and machines and serious strength routines.
Everytime I try these, I injure myself.
Fucked my legs up pretty badly already, at this rate I'll be in a wheelchair in a few years time.
Standing is pain, walking is less pain, running is nightmarefuel.
I would like to try swimming, but my sky high bone density and dysphoria makes it problematic.
I hate this body
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>>41676946
I mean obviously women can have deep conversations I'm sure most people know that because everyone here is female and has hopefully talked to another woman at least once but genuinely and truly overhearing the women in my family talking to friends they've had for decades or younger women my age hanging out it is almost always relationship drama. Not that men are better but it is almost always gossip and stupid bullshit
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>>41677561
Sounds solid.
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Does anyone else feel like their thoughts/feelings/desires were implanted by some outside force and that's the reason they're like this (not solely talking about dysphoria)
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>>41681232
Schizophrenia
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>>41681232
i often think about this when i run into people i was just thinking about or when the timing is a bit too coincidental
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>>41681232
Sounds like a level of disassociation or derealization to me.
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Whats the best way to hrtrep Ive admitted to myself that I probably need it to not go insane but I have to be able to pretend like Im not on it at all around family n shit and that seems a lot harder to do on T what do. Im assuming low dosage so the voice change is more gradual and you can just gaslight them into thinking it was always so low.
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I don't get the "reppers" on T that are sort of aiming to be like men, but they're not even 5'7"/5'8". people. why do you do this to yourself if you're not even manlet height.
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>>41682765
that's 170 cm for non-Americans.
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>>41682765
because some people dont give a shit
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sometimes all u need to do is get drunk and watch lesbian movies and wish you were normal like them
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>>41683109
I hate dykes. I thank fuck I'm not one.
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>>41683165
i wish i was normal like them tho yk itd be easier, but yeah theyre kinda boring tbhq
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>>41683199
What do you mean normal like them
Just not dysphoric?
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>>41683300
yeah
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I wonder if I'll ever see the day when technology is advanced enough for me to transition and go stealth. That's basically what's keeping me alive atm.
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>>41683165
Why do you hate them
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>>41684005
it's repulsive to me to see how misogynistic their attraction to women so often is. not that much different from men.
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>>41684249
that's literally any pooner on ts godforsaken board, women who like women are just as bad as gay men they just have female privlege to not be seen as a predator unless they are like a 6'6 heavyset lesbo
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>>41684264
yeah... I know. males (attracted to women), dykes and pooners (attracted to women) all have way too much in common. disgusting.
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Should I go to a lesbian night at a bar tmrw i've never been to a bar in my whole 21 yrs of living, sadly it'll probably be mostly "bisexual" college girls with their friends but maybe it'll be fun i've never been to a bar
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>>41684292
not me though (:
I'm the one exception. To be fair, I talk about men the same way.
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>>41684322
you dummies really need to get over yourselves and realize being with straights is an option. so long as you're actually masculine that is.
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>>41684339
ive tried but it never works out so, also i like rly queer girls
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>>41684339
who would wanna be with a bitchy straight girl lolol
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>>41684345
you have to be a 100 footer or diesel dyke or whatever the fuck to pull one.

>>41684362
I can see why you struck out.
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>>41684383
Its rly not that hard bruh kek. I can tell u most likely have never spoken to another woman before tho
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>>41684264
>ts godforsaken board
Zoomersisters...
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>>41677561
lfg
>>41677811
i got one thats 5'5. when i wanna be taller than her i just wear boots.
>>41684322
yeah go for the hell of it
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i think im so obssesed with being the rapist because having gender dysphoria feels like being perpetually molested
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>>41685264
>tfw I have never been violently, brutally raped by a femrepper
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>>41685341
hiii
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>>41685341
i feel like itd be fairly easy to meet a girl on here whod be into that. not me tho atp im bored by masochists. you wanting it makes it less fun
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>>41685640
i like the ones that think they're into it but have never actually tried it and as you go further they realize they don't want it
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>>41669539
>mtfs are women its whatever
you can downgrade into the status of womanhood but not upgrade into manhood
>>41683109
lesbians are all having issues and not being normal, that's why so many butches transition
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>>41688739
>you can downgrade into the status of womanhood but not upgrade into manhood
Supermassive trvthnvke
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>>41681856
anavar instead of or in addition to t, and no matter what you do you’re gonna get fucked up side effects if you don’t LIFT WEIGHTS
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>>41685640
>>41686919
I have a habit for biting off more than I can chew. So there is a very real chance things could go from cnc to non-con.
Punch me hard enough to draw blood or pull a knife and things could get as real as you wanted them to be pretty quick. Either way, I would be helpless.
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Bump
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its weird being an incel creep in a female body. nobody takes it seriously.
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>>41695410
Incel femreppers are the most cute femreppers desu.
I wish they could just take out all that anger on me...
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>>41696113
hey
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>>41696427
Haiiii~ incel-kun.
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>>41689996
>I have a habit for biting off more than I can chew. So there is a very real chance things could go from cnc to non-con
lowkey hate that i hate indecisive bitches. but hating you makes it loop back to being fun ig
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>waaaah I want to be a man and live the life of a man and have all the male experiences
>but only as a top 1% chad OTHER MEN DONT COUNT!!!
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>>41698143
The other men don't have cunts and a uterus and didn't spend the first 20 years of their life as a female. are you mentally retarded?
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Bump
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pemis emvy
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>>41703008
mushmoom



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