>>41672676
Uh yeah I can imagine that

>>41672676
>lusted after by moids when his shoulders are that wide
maybe I have a chance.

>>41672676
Do you really think this person passes as female?

>>41672676
That doesn't surprise me. That retard doesn't even look like a bitch

>>41672676
doesn’t she/he/they (idfk) have rlly weird allegations

>>41672755
Probably a pedo

>>41672676
me

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>>41672698
There are trans appreciators for all shapes and sizes of trannies

>>41672755
>>41672759
that was made up by kiwifarms/shartyfags

>>41672698
Ella's got an amazing ass tho

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Natalie Mars convinces sphere hunter to go into camming, setups up a porn shoot for her with christian xxx who rapes her up the arse and pozzes her and she has a mental breakdown.

Natalie Mars convinces Ella Hollywood to go into hardcore scenes with her faggot friends who brutalize her in a piss gangbang, beat the fuck out of her and piss in her mouth and gaped arsehole and she has a mental breakdown and detroons.

somebody needs to stop this faggot demon

>>41672676
Wide shoulders, no hips, probably a heighthon, male jawline, no tits, no waist

>>41672862
And yet men would still rather fuck her than deal with cisf bullshit.

>>41672876
If you look at who straight men are dating you will be surprised to find that that isn't true

>>41672924
Bruh. Straight men think Hunter Schafer is hot, when she's an underweight twink with breasts.

>>41672861

>Muh brutal piss gangbang

Hollywood just retarded or it's just environment force him to detrans

what does it say about me if i feel less bad about my male features when i remember that theres plenty of chasers who would find my body attractive?

>>41672954
It says that you crave a sexual partner. That's normal.

>>41672954
I'd say it's productive

A large swath of bisexuals (who will self-label "straight" very often, >>41672942) like estrogenized males with some woman-ish social roles.

>>41672861
If this is what actually happened, thats heart breaking. Hearing that kinda made me choke up, I’ve been in a very similar situation. Hopefully they have support and are doing ok :(

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>>41672861
wail until you find out who NM is associated with...

>>41672976
Typical cisf response to men choosing troons over her: attack their sexuality.

>>41672942
A few straight guys liking Hunter schafer does not change the fact that the majority of straight men are dating cisf over transfems

>>41672793
whaaaat rlly? i never look into it cus i rlly am not enough of a gooner to care about pornstar drama i js watched one video a while back. i thought it had to do with some twitter gooner lolcow thing

>>41672861
what the fuck

>>41673019
What's being attacked?
The fact that people that find AMaBs attractive are at least bi?

>>41673125
And there's the denial that anyone AMAB can ever pass as female, because that would break TERF ideology.

>>41673145
It doesn't. Some tomboys can pass as young boys. They're still female and passoid trans are still male

>>41672676
>Ella Hollywood
didnt this person get exposed as a pedo or am i stupid

>>41672861
damn that's kind of hot. they're so lucky <3

>>41672676
This is nothing, did you know that there are 4'10" gigaturboultramegapassoid cis women with G cups, fat hips, wasp waists, tiny hands and feet, and a 12" biacromial who willingly decide to de-detransition?

>>41672755
it was abdl content, kinda like that latex diaper shit natalie mars did but she doesnt get hate for some reason

>>41672676

Sex, drugs, and superficial ideas about yourself are unsustainable in the long run. It's born out of an adorable materialistic culture built in "getting that bag" where people experience social pressure to prove themselves by being as successful as they can as quick as they can. So trannies facing lots of social pressure and cut off from resources do porn to seize control of your destiny.

Of course then it ruins your relationships, friendships and life prospects, alienates you from your body and teaches you that your body is a disposable profit generating machine. Then you experience an hedonic, depression and existential crises without having any real support or values to guide you, you're alone and suffering, so of course you eventually break and retreat to the ancient conservative judeo Christian ideas that underlie society. You lose confidence in yourself and you never trained yourself to see your life as a marathon journey because you were so focused on early success.

And so then you overcorrect, you give in to your depressive dissociated state let go of a gender presentation that you never made your own, you quit alcohol, drugs and sex work because you see how hollow it is but you never formed any concept of trans womanhood independant of drugs porn hedonism and morally bankrupt anti intellectuality. Then you're out preaching the "truth" of how your gender transition was a lie-- when a more pragmatic thinker might first question whether going into porn age 18 was the right call.

And don't get me started on psychedelic drugs. Some people have a bad acid trip as part of a quarter life crisis and then have this "gender doesn't matter" epiphany and detransition thinking they are taking control of their body when they're just messing up their future.

>>41673275
lil bit stupid
the whole gigglygoonclown thing
basically a pedo discord was exposed that had usernames including youtubers and tranny porn stars and kiwifarms took that as proof that the youtubers and porn stars connected to/referenced by those user names were actually involved in the pedo discord

>>41672676
ok but he's a guy
he likes being fem but female hrt destroyed his sex drive because that's how that works

>>41672861

Doing porn and using drugs and engaging in alternative lifestyles is dumb-- but these things can be safely enjoyed if you have the right perspective on it. Obviously a woman can enjoy an anal gape piss gang bang if she just understands that fetishism and porn doesn't reflect on her identity and doesn't let it invalidate her. But these porn stars are impressionable uneducated weak minded and with zero support. It's a shame.

Generally speaking those who detroon early eventually retroon if they don't totally ruin their lives with alcoholism and homosexual promiscuity.

>>41673067

Obviously it's about the trend lines not the raw totals.

>>41673197

So do you believe CAIS women are male? Is gender ever actually different from the one assigned at birth?

>>41673725
probably not in this case though being that
A. male endocrine response
and
B. hypersexual
he's a femboy/crossdresser who was memed into transitioning

>>41673690
This website has some seriously incredible case studies. I mean this is text book repressor shit right here. Like this was genuinely such a poetic read when you realize its coming from an egg.

>>41672676
idk I don't blame her. apparently the producers drugged her up and got her to do stuff she wasn't really comfortable with. after that kinda traumatization it has to be hard to be secure in your identity.

>>41673690
picrel is still a gross coomer tho they didn’t “retvrn to tradition”

>>41673756

>male endocrine response

Are you saying they were not on HRT at the time and thus got post nut clarity? I can see that.

>femboy/crossdresser who got memed into transitioning.

I don't mean any offense by this but I actually see this as a really frustrating and pernicious stereotype because in the actual trans experience the vast majority face extreme pressure to "just be a feminine male" and literally get memed into trying to be a "femboy" this was a brutal gauntlet for me and it's strange that despite many years of concerted anti trans rhetoric we're still talking under this suspension of disbelief where it's "cool to be trans" or there is "social pressure on gay kids" to medically transition. It's pretty much entirely the opposite. Many many people ruin themselves trying to force themselves to accept their birth sex and behind every sad feminine male homosexual ex pornstar wreck of a person you usually find a narrative like "I'm not true trans I'm just AGP"

It's a complicated question that we can't answer until we deal with this unspoken fear/belief that it seems many cis people have that "everyone secretly wants to be the opposite gender." Maybe that's true and maybe it isn't, society certainly doesn't have any answer for what to do about it either way.

>>41673796

What r u talking about it had sex reassignment surgery 2 weeks ago.


You read my post and think because I don't make porn or do drugs that I can't be trans? Did you actually read what I wrote?

>>41673825

I feel like in a way they did because they basically accepted their broken ruined state as the way they were meant to be and I think it's an implicitly value judgment on their own identity. Basically what happens when a person is swallowed by hedonistic nihilism because of a lack of cultural context or grounding.

>>41672676
Skelly boys are not attractive

>>41673839
You can be a repressor and get sra you stupid fucking retard

>>41673850
how are they not still a hedonist tho, I think your argument applies to a lot of religious detrooners but Ella hollywood isn’t one of them. feels more like they just trooned for a fetish and decided they didn’t like it anymore

>>41672793
Didn't seem made up, there was a lot of connections to pedos and pedo content.

>>41673859

What am I repressing exactly? Also how would you get SRS as a repressor like what? As soon as you get medical treatment for being trans you basically stoo being a repressor

>>41673018
This is mind blowing if real , dropping this on the same day as the Epstein emails like damn

>>41672676
>Imagine looking like this and willingly deciding to detransition
yeah evil

>>41673830
i'm saying jean hollywood showed the chemical castration reaction to female hrt rather than the second puberty reaction of a transwomen

i'm still facing that pressure but outside context doesn't magically change reality
femboys exist
men who like lace and femininity exist
i obviously know transwomen exist
what i'm saying before is when the two year mark rolled around for hollywood he/they did not grow in a sex drive, they lost theirs
that's usually a pretty good sign cross sex hrt isn't for you

>>41672793
Pro-tip: Any scandal revealed through Discord screenshots is gonna be 100% fake

there is too much hate in the world

>>41673924
well i mean the gigglygoonclown being a pedo running a cp discord was real
they just completely fucked up the identities of the discord user and giggly himself

>>41672676

people do things that make them comfortable with themselves and that’s okay anon
they don’t live up to your expectations because you also shouldn’t live to the expectations of others
peace be with you

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>>41673891
damn. you're new as fuck.
1st day off the boat.

im a literal fucking wizard compared to you.

>>41673912
>chemical castration reaction to female hrt rather than the second puberty reaction of a transwomen
The shit you niggas make up is so fucking funny.

Jean had the same reaction every single male who takes estrogen has:
>look girlier
>pp no work good

>>41673952
heres the thing
>pp no work good
can confirm false
there are biological differences between cis and trans that affect how hormone levels interact with brain and spine structures
close to the end of the first year....
pp work too good, was not ready

>>41673981
>close to the end of the first year....
You haven't been on it long enough.

>there are biological differences between cis and trans that affect how hormone levels interact with brain and spine structures
I am not a "source" guy but I don't believe this even a little bit without a source.

>>41674015
There are differences in how the hypothalamus responds to estrogen, but it doesn't matter for transitioning. Get enough estradiol in your blood, the hypothalamus stops signaling the testes to produce testosterone.

>>41673981
Completely off topic side tangent but im schizo and have believed the brain is a storage space and your spinal chord is actually doing pretty much everything, no data to prove it but id almost guarantee 10/100 trannies have spinal issues. No one believes me but someday my work will come to light, its why the government has us working desk jobs sitting ruins your spine, later causing distress and physical pain throughout the body. The world will see some day! YOU ARE YOUR SPINE NOT YOUR BRAIN!

>>41674042
I mean 10/10 all of them! Check your local tranny! She has back issues, all check what vertebrae its probably the same in every MtF !!

>>41673830
>It's a complicated question that we can't answer until we deal with this unspoken fear/belief that it seems many cis people have that "everyone secretly wants to be the opposite gender."

Well that certainly is true. The entire construct of gender and its separation from sex and sexuality exists for the sole purpose of warding off exactly this feeling of wanting to be the gendered/sexual other. Societies develop and the strictly sexual division of labor becomes harder to enforce, sex distinctions are muted and modified, and so for the sake of preserving civilization, a new kind of social distinction has to be imposed to maintain order.

If you look at the psychoanalytic tradition, you can see this quite explicitly. The structure of hysterical neurosis for Lacan is precisely the question "Am I a man or a woman?" Anxiety and lack of certainty are the fundamental constitution of gendered life for everyone, which is why violence, erasure, and disavowal have to be employed as a response to anyone and anything that transgresses.

>>41674051
That's from lumbar lordosis, from the ligaments weakening on HRT and the spine being forced into an unnatural position. Most troons need to hit the gym and do some deadlifts.

Any "height loss" from HRT is also... lumbar lordosis.

>>41674060
Yes! but before that too! The spine is a mother board, fractures and pinches effect us in meta physical ways that humans cant fully observe and study! Microscopic damage to the spine acts like a subconscious braille, rewriting your thoughts and feelings and emotions! Take care of your spine! You are becoming a new person everyday because your spine is changing everyday! In the future humans will be able to predict disorders and illnesses by reading the records of our spine!

>>41672698
Ella's problem isn't the shoulders, it's the face. Its too blocky for me. Needed FFS

>>41672676
This moron detransitioning when they were like the 2nd most successful trans porn actress, and could have easily transitioned their audience over to twitch or youtube like Suzi did will always be one of dumbest things I've seen someone do.

The thing about how they went about it that will always make me facepalm is that they could have privately detransitioned and gone back to living as a guy irl and then just dressed up for stream to farm their gooner audience. Why nuke your entire audience and in turn your legacy? Now the only thing people remember them for is being a creepy discord groomer. Bro could have taken the same route out of porn as Suzi, but nope, instead they decided to detrans and be a creepy little acne ridden gremlin man with pedo accusations instead. Absolute fucking idiot!

>>41673854
Not to bichuds ;)

>>41674197
what about the male abdomen, proportions, and entire torso

>>41673946
shut up meg

>>41673018
>>41673018
Natalie should cosplay as Monica and fuck some old dude that looks like Bill, just to really stare down the bull

>>41672698
The things /tttt/ spergs about are not things actual men will notice.

>>41674042
for what it's worth, you may be wrong but more-right-than-most-would-think.

There's a strong tendency in current medicine to ignore the work neurons distributed throughout the CNS, even in the spine or intestines, are doing for our cognition overall. Likewise, were I you I'd do some reading not only into that, but into the distributed brains of Octopi. However, to present you with a flipside, how would you explain people with severed spinal cords still apparently retaining their full intelligence? There's something you're missing here, and it stems from your over-assumption that it's doing everything rather than, say, modulating or regulating.

In any case, I deeply enjoy your perspective and just wanted to share that. You're likely incorrect claiming that the spine is doing "pretty much everything", but you're on the right track about how aspects of consciousness are distributed and how it's impossible to separate the wellbeing of all biological systems from the wellbeing of the mind.

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>>41676044
Bill "The Egg Cracker" Clinton

>>41672676
fucking pedophile, and friends w/ the creepy goonclown no less

>>41672676
I didn't know about detrooning. what happened?

>>41672676
Isn't she like really into fucked up hentai and was involved in some drama with that mfer Kris from Mr Beast?

>>41673690

whats up with LCD and mushrooms making people detransition? I could find like 5 cases right now on youtube of it happening.
I want to try psychedelics but on other hand i dont, in case it gives me weird ideas/beliefs.
>And don't get me started on psychedelic drugs
please start

>>41672676
i look like that and am considering detransition

>>41676044
>>41676050
damn not kroc too

>>41676288
psychedelics make it easy to identify isolate and fully explore internal processes in an experience idiots call ego death
if you are a fetishist meming into transtion
if you are a transsexual pretending otherwise
if you have any complex deception going on
psychedelics have a way of forcing you to focus on them and belief structures under actual scrutiny inevitably fall apart
wouldn't be the first egg cracked with acid, not surprised that it works the other way for the bandwagoners

Detransed by lcd/shrooms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqyW56P6-g
>him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYJMWIkz9w
>dude in thumbnail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3EXt4xiWU
>her

>>41676965
So psychadelics just melt your brain and make you go batshit insane, got it

>>41677956
unless your internal modelling doesn't include these circular pieces from philosophy/spirituality or social shit like me, then they just give you neat visuals and a high
only idiots and the unprepared are at risk of mental collapse from a wee touch of acid

i tried psychedelics to help me understand my gender. didnt help

has she really detransitioned? new films i see of her/him she looks pretty much the same. but when she was on e i never saw her cum unlike now

>>41672861
DESU When I was 16 I saw a Natalie Mars interview vid about how she turned 30 and decided to transition, and I told myself I'd wait until 20. I didn't even know what trans was at the time.

For Sodacat, I super liked how they said "I thought I was a woman, and I started E, then I realized I wasn't a woman, but like being on E." That openly in between thing was nice, compared to Finnster having to be on E and be fem. Soda being androgynous but on E made me feel better about myself.

>>41672861
jean was a coomer degen who trooned out specifically to be in porn

>>41672793
>that was made up by kiwifarms/shartyfags
There are literally verbatim screenshots of her referencing masturbating to basically PMV edits that encourage pedophilic attraction and engaging with CP. With those videos using 3DCG of children.

>>41672676
Detransitioned cuz allegedly coomer AGP vibes mistaken for actually being trans and lightly pressured into medical transition young. Think there's some weird anecdote about a close relative or friend also transitioning, and she got lumped in alongside them despite different details.

Though at a certain point, once a tranny, always a tranny. Wouldn't be surprised if she retransitions down the line. Currently she's a freaky low T looking twink freak.

i look better than that and i did that

>>41672861
Christian xxx is poz?

>>41676288
Felt it was over for me and ruined my life transitioning. Psychedelics reminded me who I am and I kept going with it. It even made me pass in mirror while tripping.

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What the fuck is she wearing?

>>41681740
Average "passoid"

>>41673197
>They're still female
On a day to day basis what does this matter if society treats them as male?

>>41681698
Oh, you retransed? I heard stories too when lcd removes blockades and personality constructs which dont let you transition.

>>41681925
Was planning to stop since felt the positive effects at that point didn't outweigh all the ways life got worse, had forgotten how bad things were before. It brought me out of a mental rut and showed me how I could look with slight changes to face. Was fungi.

>>41681740
house dress

>>41681740
honestly an agamp queen

nobody did it like her, one in a million

>>41681925
dude lsd does nothing, ive taken it multiple times. the world just goes loopy for 12 hours and then the next day its like nothing happened. i have no idea where ppl get the idea that psychadelics are guaranteed to melt your personality or show you your true self or whatever. its all just an illusion, believing whatever you want to believe to justify it to yourself. i dont know if im a tranny before psychs and i still dont know, a drug cant do that.

anyone know what he's up to now? I haven't seen any updates since like a year ago

>>41681753
Society does not treat them as males. Tomboys can be impregnated and wifed up. Male x male is just sex, no future

>>41681740
i look like this and i was going to make fun of them for looking this boyish should i say but my agamp took over and if they're cute enough to be seranaded with group bbc piss in a studio environment i take that as a compliment to myself lol