width is everything. bone is everything. the cis incels are right. >face>height>frameif you're born with inferior bones there's no coming back from it. how do i bluepill myself again?
>>41676619You could detransmaxx
>>41676619Just have good posture most people are slouching a little bit in this day and age so if you have good posture you'll look more confident than someone who's taller than you and slouching
>>41676619There’s surgery for that. Same as height. It just isn’t worth it because it isn’t actually that big of a deal.
>>41676664>not that big of a dealI want right's hands around my throat right fucking now
>>41676681The left guy in >>41676619 I’m sure still got a wifenkids somehow, and outside of that your shoulder width just doesn’t matter. Nobody ever lost a promotion because their shoulders were too narrow.
>>41676664most people can't afford surgeries like that
>>41676664His shoulders look unnatural after surgery tho
>>41676619you get to experience life as a male incel
>>41676619Im an actual man with really broad shoulders. They do nothing for me. No one cares about this trait
>>41676681lol you have low standardst.naturally wider
>>41677071yay
>>41676619>how do we copeI like men and hate women
>>41676664Question. Anything like this that can be done for hips? Also what are some complications that might happen because of this surgery?
>>41677388ironically, a hip surgery is probably much safer than a shoulder surgery
>>41677598Really? Everyone here keeps saying it will fuck you for life. All I could find was iliac crest reduction too so don't know what the options can be.
>>41677651yes. there’s a lot more that could go wrong with shoulder surgery.
>>41677743Huh. If have free time can you explain why that's the case? I am genuinely curious
>>41676619Literally just train shoulders moreGuy on the left still passes? Because he is a man? Do you care about being a man? Do you even pass yet and you’re like “waaah I’m going to look like left”. If you are ftm you maybe had more testosterone in the womb or something and you will just have a normal shoulder width for a man. Literally just work out your upper body and don’t eat like a foid with an eating disorder and you will achieve a normal guy build
>>41676619Idk
>>41677388Probably not. Pelvic area is too complicated.Shoulder lengthening has the same issues as leg lengthening. Painful long period where they stretch them out to make the bone grow.
