Trump Admin Quietly Changes State Department Page To Indicate It May Invalidate Trans Passportshttps://www.erininthemorning.com/p/trump-admin-quietly-changes-state>The State Department quietly updated its website this week to signal that the Trump administration may move to invalidate passports held by transgender Americans, following a Supreme Court emergency ruling that overturned earlier protections on gender-marker updates. The change was first spotted by journalist Aleksandra, who writes as Transitics on Substack. Until recently, the website assured transgender passport holders that their documents would “remain valid until [their] expiration date.” As of Thursday morning, that language had been replaced with: “A passport is valid for travel until its date of expiration, until you replace it, or until we invalidate it under federal regulations.” The new phrasing has sparked alarm across the transgender community, with one government source telling Erin in the Morning that there is growing interest within the administration in exploring some level of revocations.>The change comes one week after the Supreme Court issued an emergency ruling allowing the Trump administration’s passport restrictions on transgender people to take effect. In that decision, the Court concluded that the administration is likely to prevail in ongoing litigation, and rejected the argument that the policy was driven by “a bare desire to harm a politically unpopular group.” This conclusion stands in stark contrast to the administration’s own executive orders enabling the passport crackdown, which describe transgender people as inherently “wrong,” “dishonorable,” and “socially coercive.”
It's a good day to have a non-US passport and birth certificate.
Trans women are men and deserve male documents.
>>41679154Hi Tony!>>41679167falsenvke
Terfs are men and deserve male documents.
>>41679154it’s so cool to not be able to internationally travel anymore. and to be banned from the military. I love being a second class citizen because of a medical issue.
>doesnt pass>gets a passportnigha
>>41679195You can still travel internationally. You can still get a passport.
just 8 more years bros and I can claim EU citizenship ;w;
>>41679202a passport that says I’m a male when i am visibly female and outs me as trans is a de facto ban on traveling.
>>41679184Terfs are lesbians!
>>41679221No it doesn't. Probably makes it easier for you.
>>41679221Hardly. Maybe don't turn up at the airport dressed like a drag queen.
>>41679238how is a passport saying I am a man going to make things easier when I look like a woman you retard
>>41679245>don't turn up at the airport dressed like a drag queenI've done this and they still let me fly with my male passport. Stealthcucks should just stay home imo, it's safer there.
>>41679245Trans women are the exact same thing as drag queens!
>>41679245unironically kill yourself, ok?
>>41679265Like, at worst the TSA person thinks you're a very unfortunate man who looks like a woman, if you go for a masc or even neutral presentation. And they don't care. They only care that you're not trying to bring something prohibited onto the plane.
>>41679221the countries where you're going where that would matter are countries you as a trans woman should not be visiting anyway
>>41679256okay but do you look like a woman in the reddit hugbox way or fr fr?
only solution.
>>41679304>it’s ok if we lie on your paperwork and out you as long as you don’t go to Afghanistan
>>41679308In the reddit hugbox way. He needs his passport sex marker to validate his womanhood.
>>41679154Based.
>>41679323I know right?
>>41679308doesn’t matter what i say you’re all just gonna call me fake and a liar anyway>>41679320exactly.
>>41679319Where's the lie? You're a biological male. Sex changes on IDs are a legal fiction intended to let passing trannies have privacy. They were never intended for whole-ass men to use to claim they're female.
>>41679346>biological malefalse>sex changes on IDs are legal fictionno, they reflect reality. i look like a woman. live as a woman. have a feminine name. the sex marker is supposed to reflect what i currently am not some incident of birth from 20+ years ago.
>>41679161Every day I am thankful that my father accepted that job in Canada before I was born
>>41679346>b-but le chromosomesniggerbabble>l-l-legal fictionall "laws" are fiction retard
>>41679359>i look like a woman. live as a woman. have a feminine name.Couple of weeks ago I looked like a werewolf.Is that my authentic self?
>>41679320>>41679346Do you all actually know this anon and what she looks like or are we just calling her a whole ass man to bully? Need to know before I join in
>>41679371you know you'd be a peak male specimen if you didn't cut your balls off
>>41679359>>41679371>On all levels except physical, I am a woman.
>>41679384ok but human beings can actually be men and women. whereas werewolves aren’t real. try again, retard. come on, you got this!
>>41679406And now...Move down the chart to sex.A man can't be a woman, and a woman can't be a man.They can only be trans.
>>41679397what do you think looking like a woman implies? you think ppl are perceiving me as a disembodied spirit? retard
>>41679386He's clearly a whole-ass man because he has his panties in a bunch over his passport marker.Passing trannies would prefer a female passport, sure, but they pass. They don't need the state to deem them female for other people to regard them as such.
>>41679359let's say we add another marker called current sexand the old sex marker is changed to birth sexthis would reflect your reality much more accurately with no contradictions yet you would still have a problem with it since your intent is to hide the birth sex entirely
>>41679195>join the militaryyea killing urself legally being banned sux
>>41679419lmao more bullshit someone told you that you believe because you’re a retard just kys dude. life is a gift and I can’t imagine spending any moment of it going out of my way to be nasty to ppl like you. you really must hate yourself and have too much free time. probably fat and unemployed. really sad life you got there
>>41679449>I can’t imagine spending any moment of it going out of my way to be nasty to ppl like you. you really must hate yourself and have too much free time. probably fat and unemployed. really sad life you got thereYou just did, anon.
>>41679449fembrained
>>41679423>if you don’t let us out you then that means you’re an ugly honretard logic. where did I say I need the state to deem me a woman?? all i need is the state to not out me as a tranny at the airport.
>>41679449this newfag keeps feeding the troll
>>41679460didn’t go out of my way tho. Im not the one going to the tranny board to go troll ppl
>>41679468Why? Why do you care if a random TSA agent learns you're trans? You're not the first trans person he's seen and you won't be the last.
>>41679468>all i need is the state to not out me as a tranny at the airportall you need is the state to conspire with you to hide your origins, such a small thing
>>41679468who would get to grope you in the TSA line if they knew?
>>41679432>let's say we add another marker called current sex>and the old sex marker is changed to birth sexThe word is "Gender".Not "Sex".Humans aren't Clownfish.
not american but if i come would a hot tsa agent grab my pussy
>>41679492>why do you care that i share private information about you without your consent which could potentially endanger you? lmao>>41679497what does being born with a penis have to do with security screening? are they gonna check my chromosomes at security and if they don’t match then im part of ISIS? what is your actual point?
>>41679517Typical AGP fantasy of being sexually assaulted.
>>41679449>someone told you that you believe because it is scientifically accurate
>>41679522No, it wouldn't potentially endanger you. Stop being hysterical.
>>41679531>scientifically im glad you got that right with spell check, proud of you
>>41679316They must have done an incredibly effective psyop on asians in 2024, how the hell did they brainwash the asians so well? It was the right spreading all this wuflu chinky coof memery encouraging people to beat up old asian men on the subway
>>41679529yeah but would he
I hope this doesn't apply to hussies aka real women
>>41679522This dumbass thinks that a TSA agent couldn't get his whole life story already with a few taps of a keyboard.
>>41679551It does. Jeeps ruined it for all trannies.
>>41679546>I'mYour spell check is broken
>>41679563they truly are the jeets of the homo world
>>41679540>being outed doesn’t hurt anyoneyeah so again, just kill yourself
>>41679575If it gets jeeps to detransition then I'm all for it.
>>41679576Being outed IN AN AIRPORT TO A TSA AGENT. Probably one of the safest places in the world, post 9/11.
>>41679522>what does being born with a penis have to do with security screening? are they gonna check my chromosomes at security and if they don’t match then im part of ISIS? what is your actual point?I just think expecting the government to help you lie to people as a matter of policy is a little unreasonable
>>41679576babe you are not the baddie you think you are
>>41679606It's all part of the AGP fantasy of being sexually assaulted for (in their minds) looking like a woman.
>>41679587more like the other way around, hsts might detrans, i still want to try to be physically female even if i can't socially
>>41679645After enough time HSTS basically can't detrans meaningfully.
>>41679660i mean yeah in a way ig, but im afraid this doesnt deter most agps from transitioning in any way, whereas hsts maybe?
>>41679660HSTS never stopped being gay men there is no transition
>>41679751I've been on E2 for 15 years.I take T these days for bone health and libido. It isn't masculinizing me. It's not going to deepen my voice or give me facial hair, because I got that removed long ago.I have a buzz cut. It doesn't hide my foid skull shape.I already don't wear makeup.What can I realistically do? Get my tits removed and look like a tragic cancer patient? They're already small and a sports bra flattens my chest.
>>41679606lmao if you knew me irl you would be seething, trust
>>41679597are you really so retarded that you think TSA works at every airport in the world? please tell me you dont believe that. please tell me you actually know the process involved with getting a passport.
>>41679601it’s not a lie tho, you’re just a transphobic retard.
>>41679838Oh no, are you gonna get assaulted by Canadian airport security? British? French? Italian? Japanese? No. No, you are not.>>41679817I'm quaking in my boots.
>>41679867you are so fucking stupid it’s unreal. when you travel internationally your passport is essentially your ID. bars, clubs, hotels, literally everywhere that requires ID? you are being outed. drop the bullshit and just say you hate trannies and want to make my life as hard as possible
>>41679855Trans or not, if you were born male then claiming to be born female is a lie. It's okay to lie sometimes but don't act like the state must falsify records of your birth for you to make life more convenient>>41679907being trans is not supposed to be easy
>>41679154stop tolerating faith
>>41679986kys
>>41680013if it makes you feel better you can pretend I'm dead the same way you pretend you were born female
>>41679548Affirmitive action but than the admin started revoking visas on Chinese students and the korea factory thing in georgia.
>>41680028what would be better is if you killed yourself
>>41680046but I'm not going to and you are already used to lying to yourself
>>41679986>if you were born male then claiming to be born female is a lie. It's okay to lie sometimes but don't act like the state must falsify records of your birth for you to make life more convenient>LIES LE BAAAAAAD but only the ones i dont like plescan we do a genocide but exclusively of the American/UK population like just send a couple nukes on these retards president Xi please
>>41680055you should tho. you have an empty meaningless existence. no job, no friends, probably fat ugly and bald. why come here to piss off trannies? are you a repper? secretly want some gock? just bored and want to make others as miserable as you are? be honest
>>41679986It shouldnt be made harder by zealot shitheels who froth at the idea of hurting people they view lower than them.
>>41680068you have the choice to lie whenever you want but you dont control the government
>>41679986>”Hey this thing is bad and hurting me, please stop?”>”Being trans isn’t supposed to be easy!”Literally evil
>>41680087the government is a one big retarded lie and should have no say about "morals of lying" or whatever bullshit you're babbling about.
>>41680078I'm here for the same reasons you are not my fault if you get angry at reality
>>41680087And when we do, I pray we start rounding up and publicly killing pieces of literal shit like you. Not joking.
>>41679195>medical issuePsychological issue
>>41680101Fr. The govt is lying straight to your face daily about inflation and other important matters.
>>41680116>>medical issue>Psychological issueDiscord grooming issue
>>41680106and what reasons are that? go ahead and list them.
Would this actually change anything? Nobody actually looks at sex on a passport, just the photo, name and DOB
>>41680143> Nobody actually looks at sex on a passport,yes they do
>>41680143Nigger what? Theres entire regions of the world where they fucking scrutinize every letter on your passport. Fucking japan will reject your passport and visa for folded pages.
>>41680143Cis people would not tolerate having the wrong sex marker on their passport.
>>41680152If so, what would happen if your sex said M, but you looked female and matched your photo? Would prevent you from traveling?
>>41680165Cis people would not tolerate a passport which did not accurately reflect their natal sex.
>>41680165And that's why nobody should have the wrong sex marker.You are fighting for a "self-identified gender" marker to replace it.What you gonna do with non binaries then?Give them a little toggle?
>>41680161You can tell who has internationally traveled and who hasn’t. Your passport is your only legal identity document. Every element of it will be scrutinized for authenticity and to confirm your identity matches the info presented. It’s not just airports either. This DOES prevent trans people from traveling unless they want to open themselves up to all sorts of enhanced scrutiny, harassment, denial of service, or worse. This makes travel far more difficult and that’s the entire point. The anons in this thread are pretty clear that they only want this to harm and humiliate trans people.
>>41680193>What you gonna do with non binaries thenx
>>41680165Because with cis people a wrong gender market would be a mistake, with trans people it would just be the truth
>>41680169it doesn’t matter. if i ran thru example after example of how having an identity document that outs me is bad for all sorts of settings like bars, clubs, hotels, car rentals, getting bus tickets, etc you will just say, “good, because you’re male and you are lying if you say otherwise”. so no thanks not playing dude
>>41680210Not valid.Might as will put ¥
>>41680249>>41680245and there it is lmao
>>41680257>"My Personal Truth"
>>41680249OMG! Not the bus driver knowing you're trans!
>>41680197add in: you want to work abroad? study abroad? now you're in birth gender housing, you have to change documents with THAT country. it's just honestly depressing. my passport is up for renewal in 2 years. I'm suppose to work abroad next year. I have no idea how all of this will affect me. i never had this issue for 15+ years. i had it to get mine changed back when you still needed surgeon and psychologist documents.
>>41680249Out you to a random wagie that you will likely never see again? Is the hotel receptionist going to beat your ass?
>>41680282yes you can be refused service, misgendered, harassed, assaulted, etc. i know you don’t believe any of that is real but also if it did happen it would be good and based because you’re a sociopath. so once again, why are you here? what is missing in your life that harassing minorities is how you choose to spend your precious time on this earth? be honest with us anon.
>>41680309>also if it did happen it would be good and based>harassing minoritiesWeird projection
>>41680309>Oh no! I'm going to be assaulted by a big strong man because I'm just too girly!~~
>>41680317how is that projection
>>41680275It's just not reasonable to expect all of society to lie for you. You are right that it's depressing for you to lie to every state and organization you ever deal with and act like you are being oppressed when they dont comply.
>>41680309Yeah. This shit happens in countries that have legal protections for us and police dont enforce laws when we get bashed over it. The matching ID a passport to normal life. Cis women can get massive payouts if they're discriminated against.
>>41680369If I show up with a male ID, people think, "Poor fucker, looking like that as a man."If you show up with a male ID, evidently people think, "What a sick perverted freak."
>>41680347nta but idk if someone's been on estrogen for like 20 years and has their dick chopped it just isn't practical to keep the M on documents.. like at a certain point you just got to go for what makes society run smoother rather than just autistically focusing on the chromosomes. Unironically for an ID used to identify people, if it quacks convincingly like a duck just call it a duck and move on. I really don't see a good PRACTICAL argument against that. Just theoretical/abstract/autistic ones
>>41680347i know you're just here for hate on mtf but think of how this is for FTM. do you want people who look like men around women?
>>41680386>ur an ugly honwas that really your whole point? very low effort transphobia >>41680391they know all of this. the point of automatically focusing on chromosomes, or even genitals a person hasn’t had for 20+ years, is to humiliate, inconvenience, and endanger them. that is the whole point of all this.
>>41680409Incredible, how pathetic men rush to hide behind women to justify their behavior.
>>41680415>not capable of answering the questionfigures
>>41680415i'm the person who you originally replied kek and am ftm. answer my question on how this is beneficial to anyone
>>41680409I am not hating. It's honesly the same for both mtf and ftm. You can try to keep your past a secret but that's not easy to do when dealing with bureacracy. Large institutions will refuse you accomodations and that's just the reality you live in. Anger tantrums arent going to change that.
>>41680409their default answer is usually biting the bullet for dear life and saying yes, or going extra-cruel and saying something along the lines of "if they look enough like a man then it's their fault they modified their body to that extent, and if they make women uncomfortable then they shouldn't be in the woman's space. But they can't be in the mens,either. They brought it on themselves."
>>41680327Accusing others of "harassing minorities" when they never did so because your own fears and insecurities is projection, anon
>>41680431>still provides no practical reason for this policy, just emphasizes that we MUST EXPOSE THE TRANNIES and if they don’t like it then TOO BAD
>>41680411The point is that if I turned up with a male ID, then anyone who cared would look at me, look at my ID, and assume that if I'm a man then I must have a severe endocrine deficiency. I would receive pity, not hostility.You seem to believe your experience would differ, and there must be a reason for that difference.
>>41680386if i turn up with a male id they think its fake because of the age and call the police, then waste time getting it verified.
>>41680447you know what your argument was so irrefutable imma call up the department of state to tell them they are wrongno need to thank me xoxo
>>41680440thanks for your opinion, retard
>>41680458delulu
>>41680411> they know all of this.I know. I usually ask these kinds of questions just to get them to either think a little or admit their actual beliefs. They're super stubborn and don't want to be honest, it's like ripping off a parasite.
>>41680434i know that. i want to see what sort of justification that guy trolling is thinking of. this whole thing is going 'protect the women" then what do they want from me someone who is 'biologically female' who looks, walks, and talks like a man. You think having me go in to bathrooms with a beard is gonna fly?
>>41680462sure it only happened once. but i boymode. i dont want to know what would happen if dressed to female with wrong marker
>>41680477it's crazy how you just live in alt reality
>>41680449they would assume my documentation was in error because im a stealth passoid. fwiw i know you’re LARPing. you are just inventing and inferring a bunch of BS so you can call ppl ugly hons. like, we get it dude, you don’t like trannies. time to move on bud
>>41680480>can't refute factually
>>41680449post a pic or you’re a lying faggot
>>41680492lets start with how this is about changing documents while you are acting like I told you to use the womens bathroom
>>41680480>still can’t refute or respond to the point
can we do a single goddamned thing without the Pedo in Chief and his All-Star child molester administration sticking their noses in it and putting their three brain cells together to invent a way to make things more inconvenient for us? Jesus
>>41680481>im a stealth passoidSure, like every other 4chan "stealth passoid."People know that trannies exist today. Nobody's going to say, "Male? But how can that be?"
>>41680499>retard unable to see how the two are related
>>41680500>if i just change the topic nobody will notice im lying
>>41680511I already said you are free to lie to the extent of your ability which includes using whichever bathroom you want
>>41680510>nooooo you can’t pass!cope>people know trannies existwhat even is your point rn tho other than “yea you should be outed when you travel and it’s good that strangers know you’re a tranny cuz uhhhh reasons”.
>>41680499my documents are already changed faggot. they've been that way my whole adult life. what's the benefit of having me revert back to an F on my passport to complicate things.you can't seem to understand how a ftm fits in to your transphobia which is typical>>41680526so if i visit texas- which it's against the law to do so- i wouldn't have problems? your math isn't mathing
>>41680541It's not cope when I've seen what gets called "passoid" in passgen threads.
>>41680513same topic, your double digit IQ just isn’t keeping up. a common and frustrating experience for you, Im sure
>>41680543if you appear male then how would the law catch you? You are acting like im out to get you when literally all I said is that you cant expect a government to falsify your documents for you. If they did it before, good for you, but governments change. Sometimes people with different views get power.
>>41680553bathrooms and passports are different things entirely
>>41680560>if you appear male then how would the law catch you?maybe when my documents get reverted back to female?
>>41680567I guess you go to jail for breaking the law then idk what you think you are proving here
>>41680567yanks have to show ID to have a shit?
>>41680549oh well i posted in passgen a few times and have never once been told im clocky. always told i pass. haven’t been misgendered irl in years. so go ahead ah apologize for being an asshole, thanks
>>41679154>got a passport in July with that attestation thing>talked to my lawyer friend beforehand>I crossed out every part of the attestation except for the part where I say what sex to make the passport out as>they gave me the correct passport, while legally speaking I did not agree to anything saying I was a tranny, and they accepted this>tfw if they revoke my passport I can sue themMight be fun
>>41679167>deserveIf your appearance doesn’t match your sex marker you cannot travel to most countries.
>>41680579babe passgen is for chasers and other trannies to give you a confidence boost only. like a mutual delusion
>>41680587BASED. If they issued a legal document with the attestation amended they are fucked if they try to reverse course
>>41680579Troons don't know what cis females look like. That's why passgen is the way it is.My husband also doesn't get gendered male most of the time in public, because gendered customer service is uncommon now. I can assure you that he doesn't look female.
>>41680587Good luck. Only SEA is safe for trans women btw Europe is full of muslims who will curb stomp you
>>41679265Ftms exist retardAnd as always are literally the only ones that suffer every time retards try to punish mtfs
>>41680595>ignores i was responding to a post explicitly referencing passgen>ignoring the part about my IRL experience post your pic, youre def a hon :)
>>41679198Do you think they'll invalidate your passport when they see you don't pass at the airport? They know who the trannies are from who changed their gender marker previously. Then they will just revoke your passport. If you're lucky, they'll deign to tell you your passport is now worthless by mail. Passing won't save you.
>>41680606I don't know how you people think ftm is a magic trump card but its not
>>41680578in certain states it's illegal to use a bathroom that doesn't match your id. so if i go to a bar to get a drink and show my ID which has been revert and go take a piss i could legally be arrested. however i would also be arrested if i try to use the women's for appearing male.
>>41679385>food line>cars
>>41680613It's not like most of them are anywhere close to passing anyway.
>>41680600you are coping and reaching so hard lmao>well ummm nobody says “sir” or “ma’am” anymore anyway haha so just cuz you never get called “sir” doesn’t mean you’re a ma’aminsane levels of cope required to contort what is obviously being said. the mental gymnastics of transphobes is amazing
>>41680620it's a 'magic trump card" transphobic people are so obsessed with mtf they don't acknowledge or see the negative impacts to the other side as well
None of my US federal or state documentation has ever read male, so there are no gender marker changes to revert.
>>41680621that sounds like silly legislation. Hope it gets better for you over there soon
>>41680647just flip the genders bro
>>41680608you're a hon
>>41680645>be customer service worker>see long haired twink in a dress clearly trying to present female>option a. gender female, potential tip increase>option b. don't gender, avoid headache>option c. gender male, risk tantrum and being written up
>>41680650yeah this whole thing is just frustrating and cruel. identity politics at it's finest. I would actually accept going back to when i changed my documents which required signed attestations from surgeon/psychologists that i am living as the gender i say i am and medically transitioned.
>>41680645Transphobe “logic” is wild. If people don’t call you Sir, it doesn’t mean you pass. If people call you Miss, it means they are just humoring you. You can’t ever win with transphobes here - they live in an impossible delusion and demand you accept it while calling your lived daily existence delusional. Give up on these “people”, they are beyond hope. Half of them will troon out in the next 6 months anyway. Sparring with trannies is their way of repping.
>>41680604I’m ftmI also live in a state that changes sex without marking the birth certificate as having been amended, so legally speaking I am literally AMAB with no record of anything else. So they are double fucked if they try to revoke it.
>>41680699And this is a perfect example of what I mean:>>41680683
>>41680710What about your social security records?
>>41680620Because everyone is saying “having an M marker for mtfs is fine since they don’t pass” forgetting that ftms very literally cannot pass as female even if they try. If I showed up somewhere with an F marker they’d assume I was mtf and try to double revoke the passport lol
>>41680729The ftm detransitioners I've seen all looked female to me. Some were a bit masculine, but they were still recognizably female.
>>41680683people being polite to twinkhons doesn’t erase the existence of passoids, retard
>>41680710shit dude you're fucked
>>41680729>If I showed up somewhere with an F marker they’d assume I was mtfI already explaine that mtfs can fly. So whats the problem exactly?
>>41680683>be customer service worker>see long haired twink in hoodie and jeans no makeup>gender female anywaythey clearly got some advanced gendering training going on
>>41680747Passoids are twinkhons in denial. I know you don't want to hear that.
>>41680760>pretends it hasn’t been pointed out to him that passports aren’t just about flying when hating trannies becomes more important than remembering basic details about a conversation. transphobe brains are literally broken
The point is to create a blanket reason to revoke your passport for any bullshit reason, even if you have the "correct" gender marker to transphobes.
>>41680765It's obvious when a male has been taking estrogen for at least a few months. He begins to look strange.
>>41680776well its the same for mtf and ftm thats the whole point>people might assume im the other kind of tranny oh nooogrow up lol
Trump should issue an EO that a T (trutrans) stamp is an accepted sex
>>41680683>clearly trying to present femaleThis was the biggest turning point.People no longer even need to put effort in before demanding to be treated like a woman
>>41680780>i can smell ze jew under any floorboard!>Sir, why did you gun down that german family that had no jews under the floorboa-->ZILENCE! *BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*>as I was zaying... I can always smell ze jew under ze floorboard
>>41680769>i pass>you don’tso which is it? do trannies ever pass or not? what even is your point anymore? do you even know?
>>41680777does this lead into an arousing persecution theory, where trannies get sent to rape camps?
Trannies who panic about having their birth sex on their passport clearly aren't mentally robust enough for transition.
>>41680804Most trannies love fantasizing about being sent to a male prison and raped. It feeds their fantasy of being female.
>>41680728That’s the only way they know, but even then that didn’t involve disclosing tranny status, only sending in the new (but legally NOT amended) birth certificate to get the SS corrected. I am not legally a tranny. They only “know” because my name changed from a gender neutral one to a male one.
>>41680804>persecution theoryRescinding the right to travel is by definition, persecution you lying faggot.If people can't leave your nation, it's persecution.
>>41680805every tranny wants their actual gender on their IDs whether they pass or not
>>41680699I must confess I do this for fun but, the hsts > agp shtick instead of kill all trannies yk
>>41680800So estrogen does nothing? Why take it, then?
>>41680834you’re a massive fucking loser im sure you already know that tho
>>41680740That’s after being off hormones for years.>>41680760You’re not following.>diaper don revokes tranny passports>try to fly with M passport>system says tranny, rejected>get new F passport>try to fly with F passport>their eyes say tranny, rejected I literally cannot leave the country if they do this.
>>41680801Point is passing troons, of which there are very few (and you don't sound like one despite your repeated insistence that you are), get pitied, not attacked.
>>41680838dunno wtf they were doing there. hrt changes your smell and skin texture and oiliness quite fast which some autists have a keen eye for.
>>41680841AGP post
>>41680838the point is you can’t reliably tell a trans woman from a cis woman. you knew that but once again are motivated by your sociopathy to keep being an asshole.
>>41680849like pregnant woman glowing skin and shiny hair?
>>41680845I literally been through it many times. Yhe TSA agent asks you why your birth sex says one thing but you look like another. Say you are a tranner, they get flustered and let you through.
>>41680849Most people won't consciously spot the changes if the troon doesn't grow long greasy hair or make the tits obvious, but they will subconsciously get creeped out.
>>41680848why do you think being pitied is a good of acceptable thing? are you that much of a loser IRL that you wish someone took pity on you or something?
>>41680853i repeat: you are a massive loser. look in the mirror without crying (if you can)
>>41680868Why would I care what a random TSA agent or hotel receptionist thinks of me?If they pitied me I wouldn't care. If they physically attacked me I would.
>>41680864YES WE MUST FORCE TRANNIES TO OUT THEMSELVES ALWAYS KILL ALL TRANNIES!!!
>>41680876malebrained AGP post
>>41680864Yes but that’s now, when trans passports aren’t revoked.The average TSA agent has an IQ of 65 and doesn’t know FtMs exist. I would not be able to get it through their head. They would just keep saying that since I’m a tranny I need to get a corrected M passport and I’d have to explain the concept of an ftm to them and they would just get more irritated until they detained me.
>>41680880it was already pointed out to you that there are a host of negative outcomes ranging between indifference to outright murder. why are you still pretending those don’t exist? why are you so invested in downplaying the experience of trans ppl? I am telling you that AT BEST, it is humiliating and embarrassing and you dont care.
>>41680889I've never been shot by airport agents in my entire life suprisingly and I fly a lot
>>41680710also ftm in a state that changes birth gender with no amendments. unfortunately i had a passport as a child but the same as you, with ssa, birth certificate, and so on. I actually wonder how they'll try to say 'provide old valid documents' when my birth cert says male
>>41680862yeah, since usually have consistent high E levels instead of monthly cycles where T spikes,
>>41680909Yes, I'm sure it is humiliating and embarrassing being a deliberately estrogenized male.
>>41680913yea and you also look like your sex assigned at birth
>>41680913are you a tranny with the opposite of presented sex stamped in your passport?
>>41680905how fembrained
>>41680921>not capable of answering the question
>>41680905TSA agents get trained to expect trans flyers.
>>41680925yeah it's really so hard for you to believe that people dont detain trannies on sight at airports lmao
>>41680914Yeah exactly, being born in one of those states is like being in a sanctuary city. They can’t prove you’re trans without forcing a dna test or something insane.
>>41680918interesting. does the same happen when trannies take big doses?
The TERFs are probably right that this isn't a huge deal unless you plan on flying to Afghanistan But that is still a valid concern. it's not just Islamic shitholes that are transphobic, I had a friend who was harassed when she transited through Russia and most of the Caribbean and LatAm even is out of the window. Which really is the entire point of this, to out trans people and enable their harassment. There is no practical purpose for reverting to birth sex on a travel document.
>>41680929Maybe don't dress like a pretty pink princess if your ID says male?
>>41680921>MEF coded responseSee you in a year, Alice!
>>41680944im not sure. i need to get injections to check that myself.
>>41679813im not telling you to do anything, im just saying future hsts might not transition
>>41680948Why would anyone transit through Russia?>t. russian
>>41680954then just let them have the female ID. problem solved. the photo is all theyre even identifying based on now anyway.
>>41680941it is, but it doesn't help the passport situation if you ever had an old one unfortunately. everything else is fine
>>41680958yes make a thread and report your findings. but your balls would ruin the hormone ratio wouldnt it, or are you gonna take mega doses?
>>41680954>it’s not discrimination, just stop being trans
>>41680960That would be a sign of societal progress, if being an extremely feminine male becomes more viable than it was 20 years ago.
>>41680976>being trans is about wearing female clothing>but it's not the same as drag!!!
>>41680976saved
>>41680974depends what ratio. with cyproterone T is just nuked entirely.
>>41680986the person who said it’s all about clothing is right here lil bro:>>41680954glad to help
>>41680990nice, do you happen to know how to do the opposite? I want more T less E products
Immigrants applying for a US visa have to undergo a genital inspection regardless of what their documents say. US troons whining about having the "wrong" sex on their passports are pathetic.
>>41681005In that case just normal T injections should suppress E.
>>41681014no hymen no diamond
>>41681014> Immigrants applying for a US visa have to undergo a genital inspectionthis is false.
>>41681014They should have to undergo an execution; America is for Americans; fuck off we’re full
>>41681024Mmm I was told when bodybuilders do it they get gyno. Do they inject too much or what do you think? I am not bodybuilder
I’m genuinely curious about spaces like this. Presumably this is a board for queer people but the whole thread is aggressive transphobes mocking and insulting trans ppl. Is this normal here?
>>41681059Most tourists are reppers tbhon
>>41681041Probably need an anti-estrogen for that case, SERMs like Tamoxifen
>>41680966IIRC she was fleeing south America and booked a ticket to Moscow as a ruse to continue on to the UK for asylum.
>>41681059the majority of the trolls are trannies. either closeted reppers who will troon out soon, or miserable transitioners who have to spread their misery because misery loves company. also some pol and shartyfags but they’re not really human, more like predictable NPC scripts.
>>41681069Okay I will try to buy some thank you
>>41681096Wish you success on your gains anon.
>>41681059Welcome to /tttt/! We’ve got:>20% gay men that think they can still be republican because they hate trannies>30% agps that think they can still be trannies because they hate republicans>25% ragebaiting poltards in a revolving door of three day bans>10% bipedo males here to hit on trannies that forget to not be transphobic>10% ftms catching strays>5% cis lesbians, somehow (where did they come from? why are they here?)
>>41681059Yes, I'm a masochist, I like reading hurtful comments about myself
>>41681140>0% hussies
>>41681158The hussies get told they're jeeps by jeeps who call themselves hussies.
>>41681158I forgor, take 5% from the poltards and give it to HSTS
>>416811401% mel
>>41681185>>41681187The hussies are tourists passing through who are quickly horrified and never come back
>>41679238Explicitly including a name and gender marker change record on pasports would have saved the hons SO many enhanced searches over the years . but suicidal thoughts about their deadname is more important clearly.
>>41681204horrified when find out people think stealthing men is sexual assault here?
>>41679300...or set off their "this person is using someone else's pssport" or "this might be forged docs" alarms.
>>41681214doesn't count when hussies do it
>>41681214Just can’t stop posting bait can you? Not capable of being sincere even for a moment. Faker than the most fakeshit tranny. You don’t have to keep repping and trolling. You can troon out and be honest and sincere babe. It’s ok.
>>41681221>get dragged to court>about to get away with it on the hsts exemption>someone leaks a photo of you playing with lego instead of barbie>life without parole
>>41679492>>41679522I feel bad for you if your personal history is that much of a trigger warning. We're already at the point where the licence plate readers on cop cars will be able to pull that shit up without any requests.
>>41681248erm is that a tranny... grooming?
>>41681220No, because they're trained to expect trans people.
>>41680143Probalby not for domestic US flights. If you're going to big smuggling hubs, or places that hate america. or shithole dictatorships, it could cause problems, but so does being a tranner in the first place.
>>41681214Actual hussies disclose, because actual hussies break people's brains.
>>41681273no since i transitioned long ago. delayed transition once when a guy convinced me i might be hsts and i didnt want to be doing something for creepy sex reasons like that
>>41681265it was already repeatedly explained to you why this is a problem. please address what had actually been said to you instead of continuing to make up nonsense. i am begging you to stop lying and have a genuine convo. are you really just not capable of that??
>>41681330>are you really just not capable of that??No.
>>41681059Personally, I'm a psyfag just trying to keep up with the weird shit that clients are getting from the internet in an effort to try to keep them from taking the "it's beautiful up here" stunt challenge. Knowing what they care about in an unfiltered way outside the clinical environment has proven to be useful.And I'd bet my DSM4 that has a stab mark in it that some of the "aggressive transphobes" are tranners themselves.
>>41681353I would love to hear more about this and what you’ve seen or deduced. Do you have a Discord?
>>41681279>TSA>TrainedBut seriously, things that look OFF are the most important fucking thing they look for, and a "mismatched" marker from what they expect is one of them. criminals disguising themsleves as women has been a thing for centruies.
>>41681353>"aggressive transphobes" are tranners themselves.true. same thing with the gay republicans. data doesnt lie
>>41681387So maybe tranners shouldn't dress like transvestites when flying, then.
>>41681330>>41681349"making up nonsense". i'm not even contesting that you hate it. I said I feel bad for you, and also pointing out current tech that is already deployed by some places. I'm saying your life sucks and is going to get worse. I'm not even reveling in it. That other dude of course will.
>>41681353Hate how get treated like shit by employers landlords doctors. Then the doctors that think they are helping ignore that and think online echochambers giving trannies bad ideas are to blame for the suicides. Maybe not you, but that's how it's been.
>>41681411Damn that is bleak…..not trans but the hard part of imagining what it’s like to be trans is the discomfort. It seems like trannies deal with attitudes and treatment that would make me go postal, and getting to know trannies is just a continuous exercise in putting myself in intolerable, awful situations over and over…what the fuck.
>>41681406it's literally not even a stopper to dress like a transvestite the TSA dont carescaredy troons itt have to speculate because they dont leave their rooms and have no real experiences
>>41681444and how does that make you feel?
>>41681451>scaredy troons itt have to speculate because they dont leave their rooms and have no real experiencesi have a job, a fiancé, a band, wide circle of friends, family, a whole ass life. not gonna listen to a projecting shut in retard like you tell me that presenting a passport that puts me at a hostel in Italy is no big deal.
>>41681472book a hotel bum
>>41681457I avoid it because it’s too upsetting
>>41681444Most troons CHOOSE to put themselves in those situations. Dysphoria is worsened by ruminating on gender and consuming trans content. That's why transition rates soared during COVID: people stuck at home choosing to watch trans content online. Most actually gender nonconforming kids naturally desist during puberty if they're not railroaded into transitioning.The only troons worthy of sympathy are those who were severely physically hypomasculine males or hypermasculine females, because society treats those people like garbage. Most troons don't actually know what being severely hypomasculine means, though. It's not being a twink.
>>41681472okay sounds like the transphobe gestapo hasnt prevented your from having a lifeNow did you actually get put in a hostel in Italy or is that speculation?
>>41681486hotels require ID. you’d know this if you weren’t the unworldly shut in you accuse others of being.
>>41681444Can reduce the treatment a lot by having family present for everything, but after a point that reduces you to forever being a child with mommy speaking for you. Either never get to mature as a person, or just go through all that.
>>41679154Based
>>41681498not the same person + they would accept your ID saying M, dumbass
>>41681495barred because they accused me of having a fake passport and threatened to call police. please tell me more how i am overreacting or this was a good thing
>>41681520so we are still at the part where you think giving a woman a passport calling her a man is good and ok, and you haven’t justified that. so no retard, we are not move onto “well SOME places must be ok with you humiliating yourself like that”
>>41681451I've dressed like a whole-ass man with an F on my ID while flying and nothing happened, so you're probably right. A man dressed as a woman with an M on his ID is basically the same situation in reverse, so it would be fine too.
>>41681526sorry that happened to you
>>41681550no you’re not lmao
>>41681543bestie are you schizophrenic?
>>41681554sorry you feel that way
>>41681558read the thread. all you disingenuous retards act the same
>>41681544Its not the same in reverse for the same reason girls dont get beaten up for wearing pants in the west but boys do for dresses.Also why is it always about flying, thats far more regulated and monitored. Its all the other places like bars and hotels where some psycho running it decides to ruin you.
>>41681564no you’re not lmao jumping in late to a pile on and acting like you’re just asking questions is crazy dumb
>>41681576Why must you wear a dress? Women have been able to wear pants for decades.Why are you going to establishments in foreign countries that are unsafe for trans people? That seems incredibly foolish. All it takes is one person clocking you, apparently, and it has long been known that trans people are the worst judges of whether they pass.
>>41681573what's with the attitude dude
>>41681602>foreign countrieshave to provide ID in home country too retard. why must you dress like a man as afab?
>>41681628Men's clothing is more practical and durable.
>>41681588I wasn't asking questions and I really am sorry you were forced to stay in a hostel because your passport was rejected but also the police wasnt called even though you were literally commiting identity fraud in their eyes, what a kafkaesque experience. Did your fiancee stay with you too?
>>41679154>one government source telling Erin in the Morning that there is growing interest within the administration in exploring some level of revocations.government agents are leaking information to a transgender blogger
