>be mid-20s tranny>midshit, hrt at 20 >from a country with no gendered pronouns or honorifics >never get into trouble in women's bathrooms and similar places>people online still tell me i don't pass>decide to take a holiday to the UK>americans tell me not to because it's a dangerous country for trans people>go anyway>all service staff address me as female >get called madam and darling and sugar by them>absolutely zero trouble in female bathrooms>all kinds of people very readily talk to me>have small talk in women's bathrooms and in department store cashier queues >generally have a lovely time >not even pretty >voice barely passes>never wear makeup and dress extremely androgynous>still have a lovely time not even having to think about my transnesswhy is it like this? people online will quite often tell me i don't pass, but i was worried for nothing
passing is a myth
>>41681715People neglect to mention that the reason it's terf island is because it was cishon island first, passing in britain is like easy mode
>>41681734i found the women here to be generally very pretty. like the hottest woman you've ever seen will serve you coffee at a cafe and nobody will even acknowledge how she looks
>>41681715People online are retarded
>>41681715Trans americans are retards who (like many left wing westerners) are deluded into thinking that the west is less tolerant and outside world is more tolerant than they really are. You unironically get transpeople on here saying they want to move to china, China is sufficiently bad for queer people that my cis gf left and doesn't want to go back because she is bisexual. The fact that the biggest anti-trans contingent in the UK is TERFs (feminists) should tell you how relatively unlikely you are to be attacked or demeaned, especially given how cowardly feminists usually areWhen you say>people online will quite often tell me i don't passdo you mean people on 4chan?People on social media, and especially 4chan have an absolutely delusional idea of what a normal level of attractiveness is and what non-pornstar non-celebrity non-cartoon character actual real people look like because they spend nearly all their time indoors on the internet.
>>41681715I live in stealth for over 4 years now in a very traditional country.Posted myself here in passgen several times, got almost zero attention and and like 30-40% people told me I don't pass.I suspect, passgen (and this board) is full of chasers, and they use it to fap and encourage mtfs to post thereSo, they need there someone>who made sexy pic of themself>looks trans in some small way (chasers have a fetish for trans girls)So, just don't worry about it. Passing irl > passing in weird internet places, that's the ultimate goal actually. And you nailed it.
Most people want to avoid a tranny tantrum.
>>41681715Youre a different race than them. Its harder to clock people of other races
>>41681722>myth
>>41681979>the “we can always tell and will move heaven and earth to deny trans visibility” crowd suddenly making excuses to their bigotry, in countries where transphobia is sometimes lauded as a normYou people aren’t just larping as retards, you ARE retards.
A lot of people conflate passing with attractiveness.
>>41681715trannies online are far better at identifying clocky features and have far higher standards for what a woman looks like than real people you would find enjoying the day
>>41682051true, pic related passes but is not conventionally attractive.
>>41681971>>41681912you both make very good points>>41681979you don't call someone darling just to avoid that>>41681994i'm north european
>>41681722Then how do you explain OP's story?
>>41682128people are uncomfortable with feminine men existing, most men take great lengths to present as gender conforming, any man dressing or acting feminine thus stands out all the more, and at a certain point people will just call you she to avoid admitting that men can be feminine
>>41682140What about staunch TERFs who shree with you and believe that passing is a myth and that trannyism is a threat to feminine males who need to accept their birth sex and just be gay without mutilating their bodies?Britain is currently rolled by all these lawsuits by nurses and people fighting for their right to misgender hons at work and saying they instantly feel threatened and ogled when a tranny walks in the room.Are you saying even these people in public are carefully gendering trans women female every time and faking being nice to them with award winning acting JUST to avoid offending them? That doesn't match everything else going on in British culture right now, does it?
>>41682180i think thats more about ugly/older men threatening themOP is probably like 25 at mostI think its far more about attractiveness than gender
>>41682051That's because a lot of people who obsess about this stuff are gooners so they only want to pass if they look like a porn bimbo, likewise lots of antitrans people on this site are also gooners so despite professing to want a demure trad wife, they actually only find women attractive if they are insanely good looking
>>41682140this post maliciously ignores the exact men who are stubborn about their views on gender and who go out of their way to express the idea that “the woke” can’t force them to change their language. Most transphobic people are EAGER to call out any gender non-conforming queer, a man (regardless if they might even be a trans man instead).
>>41682207>I think its far more about attractiveness than genderProbably, what he said about feminine men not being accepted also becomes less true the more attractive you are. "feminine" basedbeards who paint their nails are not going to be accepted in the way that a twink wearing jewellery is
>>41682180I live in britain. I walk past roadmen every day. If they knew I was trans I'd know about it.
>>41682244>I live in britain.I'm sorry anon
>>4168199aPhttps://i.4cdn.org/lgbt/1763163459153839.jpghotoshop on pic 2 around the hips.Obvious shoulder breadth to hip witdth ratio,Mandibular structure has masculine anterior aspect only seen when women are inbred. lolYou're a man in lipstick.
>>41682112Is left cis? pretty clocky tbqhwy
>>41682282Kind of scary just how much some trannies will edit their photos
>>41682298>cis women never edit their photos>we gotta scrutinize trannies more because muh transphobiaIt doesn’t really matter how many passing pics you see, you’ll fabricate any reason to justify putting trans women down.
>>41682287it may shock you to realize this but ciswomen can also look clocky
>>41682324It doesn't matter how many "passing" pics you post, now that you've conceded that any number of them could be edited.
>>41681715hi op who is a total stranger :^)
>>41682367hilarious how the default argument is to say “they’re edited!” and not conceive of any other reality outside of your walnut-sized brain
>>41682392disgusting how you support grooming and mutilating children to produce poor simulacra of women
>>41681715If you're a visibly different ethnicity you get house guest privileges' in most western countries. Internal gender politics is for the locals.
>>41682407>willfully ignores scientific census and methods proven in regards to treating gender dysphoria, out of spite towards a minoritynobody is surprised by your prejudice or your abstinence from intellectual honesty.Disgusting how you unquestionably push the narrative for billionaires in order to continue dividing the people. Make yourself useful and actually devote your energy to the people at the heart of our societal issues instead of the literal 1% of the population, chud.
>>41682392>can't admit that single photos that are edited don't accurately represent real life
>>41682562please point out and identify exactly how the photos are edited, chuddy
>>41682582Do you think that person passes as female??
>>41682599do you think under your chuddy gaze these cis women would pass your standards? lol no one is convinced by your malicious behavior
>>41682615Those are obviously tranniesYou can't trick me into saying they pass with reverse psychology
>>41682626LOL THE CHUD CANT IDENTIFY CIS WOMEN WHO ARE BELOW AVERAGE. I’M DYINGPic related more cissoids
>>41682626those are fucking terfs you retard keeekekekekekekekekekekkeke holy fucking shit your brain is rotted. I'd love to see the look on the girls face when you try to finally lose your virginity and can't get it up cause you're clocking her pussy
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>>41682670>clocks cis woman as tranniesHOLY PORN BRAINED. You’re so cooked.
>>41682637I can tell you that he's not a true CHVD like me, I don't clock these women as trans, but there is something far darker lurking, something in their early life...>>41682670>tranny on top row second from leftknowing who abbie shapiro is but not barbara streisand means that you are definitely a pornsick gooner
